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MSM, intel community and Dems spent three years pushing Russia propaganda, now accuse others

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posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 09:17 AM
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As is often the case, we again see a striking example of the dems, media, intel community, (deep state) accusing others of exactly what they did.

They are now claiming wanting to investigate Ukrainian interference is "spreading Putins talking points".

Now remember, these groups told us that more than Putin wanted to see one candidate win, he wanted to see division in the US.

What has caused that division more than the Kremlin sourced steele dossier, that allegations w/in was pushed by these groups for three years, many still to this day.

The media led with the trump russian collusion story for the bulk of this presidency, accusing trump or his team of being russian assets.

Dem politicians such as schiff and swallwell claimed to have seen evidence of these claims which millions believed, despite this being a lie.

The FBI used these claims to spy on a trump associate, and even broke protocol 17 times, including changing evidence to say the opposite of what it said.

And some polling shows nearly half of all americans still believe trump colluded with russia illegally even after the democrat hero Mueller and his report showed no one in trumps camp illegally conspired with russians.

www.reuters.com... os-poll-idUSKCN1R72S0

Clearly, these allegations achieved putins goal of causing division within the country more than anything else.

Yet not only do the dems, media, fbi (deep state) not apologize for spreading this kremlin sourced disinfo, they claim any looking into their misconduct is spreading Putins talking points"

These liars and frauds should be totally rejected, and called out for the hypocrites that they are that are trying to use any excuse to have crimes from their side not be investigated.



edit on 27-12-2019 by Grambler because: (no reason given)



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posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 09:37 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

The level of total disconnect (from reality) is astounding.

This is panic on a scale not seen before (in my opinion).

Because Trump won, they have thrown everything in cluding the kitchen sink, at the man.

It makes me wonder. . . . .

What were they planning, had Hillary won?



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 09:43 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler


These liars and frauds should be totally rejected, and called out for the hypocrites that they are




FOX's Tucker Carlson calls them out all the time.



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 09:46 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: [post=24841094]Grambler[/pos


What were they planning, had Hillary won?





That scenario is just too terrible to contemplate!


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posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 09:51 AM
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Some silly person will be along shortly to correct you that these are all debunked right wing conspiracy theories.


Second line.



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 09:53 AM
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Hunter bidens "job" sitting on a "board" in the Ukraine is legit and if you question that you are nuts!

Why do we still try to argue with the insane?



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 10:29 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

Another great thread Grambler!
I think most of America has woken up to their BS. They're going to get slaughtered in the elections next year.


Hope you had a great Christmas, and have a happy new year!


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posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 10:48 AM
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a reply to: watchitburn

I think they should be hanged for trying to overthrow the government



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

the sad thing is that you patriots are in truth russian puppets. the russians naturally get involved in the 2016 election and of course was trump putin's wish candidate because he knew that trump would cause chaos and unrest ... the german far rights are financially supported by russia, that is no secret. the strategy is simple: split society and thereby weaken your opponents. Putin dreams of the great Russian empire that once existed, that's what it's all about. and you idiots help him.



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 11:12 AM
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a reply to: oloufo

Honest question;

What would Hillary had done that would have been so different?



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 11:20 AM
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originally posted by: Thenail
a reply to: watchitburn

I think they should be hanged for trying to overthrow the government



Ummm...twice...

Just to be sure...






YouSir



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 11:23 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: oloufo

Honest question;

What would Hillary had done that would have been so different?


We would have breadlines and a proxy war with Russia at this point, had Hillary won.



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 11:26 AM
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originally posted by: Thenail
a reply to: watchitburn

I think they should be hanged for trying to overthrow the government

1000% agree. Should be made public for all to see.


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posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: oloufo
a reply to: Grambler

the sad thing is that you patriots are in truth russian puppets. the russians naturally get involved in the 2016 election and of course was trump putin's wish candidate because he knew that trump would cause chaos and unrest ... the german far rights are financially supported by russia, that is no secret. the strategy is simple: split society and thereby weaken your opponents. Putin dreams of the great Russian empire that once existed, that's what it's all about. and you idiots help him.


If splitting American society is a Russia plot... the Democrats and western cable news networks are clearly in cahoots with Russia.


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posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 12:12 PM
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originally posted by: oloufo
a reply to: Grambler

the sad thing is that you patriots are in truth russian puppets. the russians naturally get involved in the 2016 election and of course was trump putin's wish candidate because he knew that trump would cause chaos and unrest ... the german far rights are financially supported by russia, that is no secret. the strategy is simple: split society and thereby weaken your opponents. Putin dreams of the great Russian empire that once existed, that's what it's all about. and you idiots help him.


and you still don't see it.

YOU are the propaganda pusher. YOU have your nose up Putin's Ass. YOU are doing the work of Putin. And YOU aren't intelligent enough to realize it.

The Dossier? Russian lies meant to divide the nation, and the left pushed it for over 2 years. We had MSM articles in 2017 about Ukraine interfering in the 2016 election, but now, if you ask about that, you are told that it's a Russian talking point and you are now saying Russia didn't do anything. I don't even know how that logic makes it past the slow folks on your side, but hell, there it is.

So please spare us the sanctimonious garbage you are told to spew.


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posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 12:52 PM
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a reply to: oloufo

Here's a simple test - which side is currently attempting to undo/rewrite the election process by any means necessary and which side is telling them to grow up and address their grievances at the ballot box just like it has been done for over two centuries? You'd have to be impossibly dim not to see which side is actually "splitting society".



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 01:05 PM
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a reply to: MALBOSIA

Both political parties in the usa are being used as pawns for russian interests , yes.

Nether side can see it and if they did they wouldn't admit it.
Suckers.



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 01:06 PM
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YOU are the propaganda pusher. YOU have your nose up Putin's Ass. YOU are doing the work of Putin. And YOU aren't intelligent enough to realize it.


This is true of BOTH sides.



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 01:15 PM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: MALBOSIA

Both political parties in the usa are being used as pawns for russian interests , yes.

Nether side can see it and if they did they wouldn't admit it.
Suckers.


Can you name me an election that Russia (or even the Soviet Union) didn't interfere with our national elections?



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 01:27 PM
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a reply to: oloufo

How does a stronger US military, a stronger Nato, and it is stronger, help Russia's designs?

We're pushing towards energy independence, and yet Germany is buying energy from Russia. I don't think we're helping Russia here. Unless you can elaborate on how exactly it does.


Claiming that we're helping Putin cause instability is intellectually lazy. Perhaps our allies should have planned for the eventuality that the US gravy train might come to a screeching halt?




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