Trump’s Deep State is Shallow

a reply to: CitizenZero

You need to read a few Geopolitics experts, then decide what is really going on
look for Alfredo Jalife or Eric Zuesse to start.

PROJECT MOCKINGBIRD..its been going on for 50 yrs....wake up every one..a reply to: radarloveguy

a reply to: CitizenZero

The power of Donald Trumps “deep state” is that it’s an excuse that can mean anything to anybody. In one circumstance it’s an elite group of satanic pedophiles who secretly run the government. In another it’s just the career government people who have dedicated their lives to America and now are appalled at what they see this crap flame of an administration doing every day.

So pretty much anyone that disagrees with Trump can be written off. Everyone seems to forget that the idea of Trumps deep state was created by a marketing agency in his run up to president. When it tested well amongst his demographic they added it to the rest of the tag lines they use. “Deep state” “drain the swamp”, phrases that don’t really mean anything but serve as a target for people to focus their anger on.

Because if people are angry at all these hollow ideas you keep throwing out, they won’t be as quick to turn on you.

a reply to: TheRedneck

Thanks for writing that.

Consider the state department’s efforts to meddle in Ukraine back in the Obama days: the likes of John McCAin being photographed with neo nazis, the efforts of Victoria Nueland (tied to Christopher Steele) turning the revolution into a bloody mess, and Joe Biden. Perhaps there is a deep state, but on top of that there is a blundering group of self-righteous bureaucrats ruining whatever they touch.

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: CitizenZero

The power of Donald Trumps “deep state” is that it’s an excuse that can mean anything to anybody. In one circumstance it’s an elite group of satanic pedophiles who secretly run the government. In another it’s just the career government people who have dedicated their lives to America and now are appalled at what they see this crap flame of an administration doing every day.

So pretty much anyone that disagrees with Trump can be written off. Everyone seems to forget that the idea of Trumps deep state was created by a marketing agency in his run up to president. When it tested well amongst his demographic they added it to the rest of the tag lines they use. “Deep state” “drain the swamp”, phrases that don’t really mean anything but serve as a target for people to focus their anger on.

Because if people are angry at all these hollow ideas you keep throwing out, they won’t be as quick to turn on you.

Hopefully one of these days you will understand that all of this existed before most people even knew who Trump was. Your blaming him for all that's wrong with the world has gotten very old and boring so leave him out of it please.

It's been a long, incestuous process that started back in the early days of England. I'm sure there are several here who know the history much better than I, but I am aware of some of it. It carried over here because of the financial power and influence of those early industrial age pioneers not limited to just the USA, but across the globe as well. When you look at those who are implicated in these top-level crimes such as child-trafficking, drug influx and the most financial benefit coming from oil and war, it's not hard to see the group-think involved. Truth be told, we'll never know the most important players or have the entire organization detailed to the public, but rest assured there IS an organization, centuries old, and those at the top will stop at nothing to protect it. Obama and Bush 2 are/were recent puppets, even though the Bush family is deeply entrenched in this via Bush 1 and I believe the Vatican and many of the upper echelon therein are also a long-standing part as well.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: kwakakev

The owners gave you a place for this Q nonsense.
Keep the mess from seeping out will you.

How can you have a "deep state" without "Q" nonsense?

In the Bible, Jesus told us that Satan owns this world. If that's true, that's a real DEEP state!

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: kwakakev

The owners gave you a place for this Q nonsense.
Keep the mess from seeping out will you.

Coming from someone who refuses to accept certain truths, that's pretty funny.

a reply to: CitizenZero

Perhaps there is a deep state, but on top of there is a blundering group of self-righteous bureaucrats ruining whatever they touch.

Those bumbling bureaucrats are the Deep State.

Let's say Senator John Doe decides to rape his intern. Uh-oh, Senator Doe is in trouble now! There's no way he is getting out of this one! His victim runs to the police and lodges a formal complaint... but the Chief of Police likes Senator Doe because Senator Doe votes the way he wants. The police officers under him were hired because he likes them too... they think the same way he does. So Senator Doe just makes a phone call to the Chief and the chief tells his officers to take the complaint and send it to him. He tosses it in the trash.

Now the intern is upset because the police aren't doing their job and calls the Mayor. Hey, turns out the mayor is a good friend of Senator Doe, and Senator Doe contributed to his campaign last year. He listens intently, acts all concerned, and then when the victim leaves, calls Senator Doe and says don't worry... it's handled.

Now the victim is really upset! She goes to the FBI to investigate the Mayor. But the FBI Director knows the Mayor; they play golf together at the same Good Ol' Boys Country Club. So the FBI takes down all the information, sends it all to the Director, and it is shoved in the back of a pile of papers never to be seen again.

OK, one avenue for justice left... go to the media! The victim contacts the media. They take down all the details and the reporters write up a story and submit it to the editor. Oops, the editor is concerned! So he calls the Director of the FBI and asks him what happened. The Director tells him that the story is to be buried. Well, the editor doesn't really want to do that, but the FBI knows about the time he was caught embezzling from the paper he runs, and if he doesn't ditch the story, the FBI is going to reopen their investigation into that. OK, the story is killed.

So Senator Doe just got away with rape. No one knows except his victim and when she starts making too much noise, suddenly there is an FBI investigation into her, claiming she was part of a prostitution ring. It's not true, of course, but it's her word against the FBI. They even have a few people lined up to claim that they paid her for sex. She gets a phone call from the FBI saying she is to shut up and stop making waves or the story will be on the front page tomorrow. Oh, and if she ever tells anyone about this call, there are worse allegations they can come up with.

Now, nothing in that scenario requires Senator Doe, the Police Chief, the police officers, the Mayor, the FBI Director, or the editor at the newspaper to be smart. They obviously aren't, because they just let a Senator get away with rape and implicated themselves in a coverup! But the coverup is so vast, so thorough, that no one ever finds out that Senator Doe raped her... as long as Senator Doe stays on everyone's good side. If he starts changing his position or doing anything to implicate those who covered for him, suddenly justice prevails and everyone knows he is a rapist and no one else in the circle gets investigated or even mentioned. Senator Joe is voted out because who wants a serial rapist (it's no longer just one rape now) as their Senator? All is well, and the next Senator comes into DC with a full FBI dossier of his imperfections and improprieties.

That's the Deep State. Bumbling, klutzy, inept, even incompetent... but as long as all the bases are covered, they're safe to do as they will.

TheRedneck

The term "deep state" has lost all meaning at this point due to the right crying wolf with it ad nauseam. Even back when it had meaning it didn't mean much. Mainly because those that run the show are in plain sight, and not some secret behind-the-scenes elite few that are secretly pulling the strings. If anything, Trump brings the "deep state" into the white house. That being the corporatocracy... Trumps pals. Just look at the laws being both enacted and stripped away to pave the way for their further control. The globalist corporations run the governments and Trump is a without any doubt a corporate globalist. The horror is front and center. No need for a conspiracy theory.

a reply to: CitizenZero

It's difficult to argue against the existence and even omnipotence of the deep state, especially on a website largely founded in the belief of such. The Kennedy assassination, UFO coverups, the NSA, 911 theories, seriously find any US-centric conspiracy theory that doesn't heavily lean on the concept of a deep state or other unseen hand guiding the important events of this country.

originally posted by: okrian
The term "deep state" has lost all meaning at this point due to the right crying wolf with it ad nauseam. Even back when it had meaning it didn't mean much.

So you think the deep state is akin to the modern concept of racism... interesting.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: okrian
The term "deep state" has lost all meaning at this point due to the right crying wolf with it ad nauseam. Even back when it had meaning it didn't mean much.

So you think the deep state is akin to the modern concept of racism... interesting.

Well, except "racism" was real, and still is. The numbers and history tell the truth, both for racism and the corporations.

a reply to: CitizenZero

The real deep state is the MIC and the pharmaceutical companies.

They have the senators and congressmen beholden to them to pass legislation favorable to them often drafting the bills for them to pass. The billions in aid to countries that turn around and purchase billions in weapons from US manufacturers. That is one of the biggest wealth redistribution scams that is perfectly legal, hidden in mountains of paperwork. The MIC spreads its manufacturing of components of different states promising jobs and guaranteeing the support of the House. A windshield in Mississippi, seats in Ohio, some nuts and bolts in North Carolina and on and on. All for a Humvee or F-35. It raises the cost of the end product but gets individual state support which they bill to the taxpayer. Then they lower the corporate taxes of those same wasteful companies that almost always go over budget. It is so many things like that which is the deep state.

Sad to say but Trump is part of that swamp and he has no intention of cleaning up any of it.

originally posted by: okrian

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: okrian
The term "deep state" has lost all meaning at this point due to the right crying wolf with it ad nauseam. Even back when it had meaning it didn't mean much.

So you think the deep state is akin to the modern concept of racism... interesting.

Well, except "racism" was real, and still is. The numbers and history tell the truth, both for racism and the corporations.

The numbers and history also indicate that there is, in fact, a deep state as well. Glad we've cleared up the presence of hypocrisy and can move forward in agreement.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: CitizenZero

It's difficult to argue against the existence and even omnipotence of the deep state, especially on a website largely founded in the belief of such. The Kennedy assassination, UFO coverups, the NSA, 911 theories, seriously find any US-centric conspiracy theory that doesn't heavily lean on the concept of a deep state or other unseen hand guiding the important events of this country.

I know, I was speaking more of Trump’s deep state in particular, the top brass of the Obama “interagency consensus”.

originally posted by: CitizenZero

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: CitizenZero

It's difficult to argue against the existence and even omnipotence of the deep state, especially on a website largely founded in the belief of such. The Kennedy assassination, UFO coverups, the NSA, 911 theories, seriously find any US-centric conspiracy theory that doesn't heavily lean on the concept of a deep state or other unseen hand guiding the important events of this country.

I know, I was speaking more of Trump’s deep state in particular, the top brass of the Obama “interagency consensus”.

Well, if nothing else, the texts between Strock and Page prove that there was a conspiracy within the FBI to blockade or interfere with this presidency. FBI is generally accepted to be part of the aforementioned "deep state," so I can't really agree with you here. Add in the whole FISA fiasco, fake dossier, and the Mueller farce and, honestly, it seems like Trump's deep state is very much a major problem that needs brought swiftly back to heel or possibly taken out back and shot.

I think option 1 is more likely. With the polls showing an easy win for Hillary I think they thought they had it in the bag. Thankfully Hillary campaigned poorly and her episodes of fainting and the Server stuff cast doubt on her. Unfortunately Trumps win and maybe his next will be the end. After Trumps second term we will back to a Obama like POTUS or maybe even worse based on the current visions all of the Democratic Nominees are expressing.a reply to: SuicideKing33

originally posted by: Bigbrooklyn
PROJECT MOCKINGBIRD..its been going on for 50 yrs....wake up every one..a reply to: radarloveguy

"The point of modern propaganda isn’t only to misinform or push an agenda.
It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth."
Garry Kasparov

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: CitizenZero

one can drown in < 100mm of water . does not have to be deep to be dangerous

Exactly. You just need the right attitude from those with the REAL power.

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