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Trump’s Deep State is Shallow

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posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 03:41 AM
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I do not believe in Trump’s Deep State. I say this because it is too easy to explain the behavior of a bureaucratic organization by assuming that it is controlled by a cabal of our enemies. A Deep State would require a level of competence and coordination that seems to evade the president’s established haters.

It is not that I do not believe there are government officials and bureaucrats frustrating the efforts of the president—there are—it’s just that I do not believe they represent any concerted and calculated effort to do so. Their efforts up until now seem a toxic soup of stupidity, self-pity and escapism. There is nothing deep nor state-like about an amorphous spattering of dimwits living out their cold-war fantasies.

When I first read the text messages of FBI agents Lisa Page and Peter Strzok I was surprised at how much they resembled the text messages of a teenage girl. Wherever I expected cloak-and-dagger, spooks and cryptic jargon, I found only histrionics and hysteria. There was the sharing of news articles along with a self-aggrandizing statement, the sort of whinging you’d find on social media. The gossipy messages never invoked in me any cold and sober effort to oppose then candidate Donald Trump, with powerful men twirling their moustaches as they plot their coup. What they revealed was something far worse: a gullible and effete group of squares motivated by their own self-concern, and in the last analysis, convinced by their own deceit.

The IG report proves as much. The errors and failures reflect a certain culture in the FBI. No explicit evidence of political bias was found, but their efforts no doubt land somewhere on the spectrum between malice and stupidity, though the two are not always in opposition. But I would land them nearer to stupidity because it was revealed to be a bumbling effort, and much like the hapless spook Christopher Steele, always believed it was in the right wherever it went wrong.

After listening to the likes of Comey, McCabe, Brennan, and their mouthpieces in the media for long enough, I’ve concluded the actors in this charade are the most pitiful figures. But their public appearances suggest they have no concern about their credibility. They are not running from any of this and are in fact front and center, writing books and op-eds, appearing on various news shows. They are, I believe, still confident that they are right. Of course, they would believe this because they operate in the same echo-chamber that told us Clinton was going to win the election and that Trump was Adolf Kremlin.

As people come to understand the danger of a rotten bureaucracy, one should never forget the fallibility of those involved in it. To the extent that a bureaucrat can get himself viewed as an asset by his superiors and as non-threatening by his fellow employees, he will benefit from ineffectiveness. Unfortunately the corrupt machinery was in place and set in motion long before they arrived. All it needed was the next dope to pull the levers and push the buttons. That is why it is not so much a Deep State as it is a shallow one.




posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 04:36 AM
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a reply to: CitizenZero

Hmmmm.

I however see a very deep state, frustrating the interests of freedom itself - let alone the President.
The system itself represents "concerted and calculated" efforts to frustrate progress past dependence on government dictation.

The only "shallow " state i see is the state of your powers of deduction, they (your shallow state) want trump out as they've stumbled onto someone who actually has the smarts to expose the whole stinking fish soup for what it is.

The sooner we the people realize once again where the power really comes from the sooner things will start to take a more correct direction.

Kick them all out. ALL of them and rebuild. Dissolve.



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 04:55 AM
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a reply to: CitizenZero

one can drown in < 100mm of water . does not have to be deep to be dangerous



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 04:56 AM
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Journalist Carl Bernstein stated that
“The CIA’s use of the American news media
has been much more extensive than Agency
officials have acknowledged publicly or in
closed sessions with members of Congress.”

medium.com...@wesleyadouglas/how-the-cia-controls-the-media-narrative-47eb050e6da5

biased mind control anyone ,,,, everyone

edit on 27-12-2019 by radarloveguy because: xxx



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 05:34 AM
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a reply to: CitizenZero

Everybody is a pawn in someone's game it seems. This unelected "deep state" has been a thing long before Trump.

It almost seems like a regime change here, which would be a good thing. Anyone paying attention knew who Jeffrey Epstein was before the big TV scandal. Anyone paying attention knows the occult and pedophilia are things that those above the law are concerned with. Gun/drug running, slavery and human trafficking...all in a day's work.

I see 2 probable models.

1. Trumps victory really was unexpected. Full on damage control starts the day he is elected. Every part of the machine is aimed against him to get him impeached at all costs.

2. Trumps victory was allowed to happen. Just to tear him down and divide the country. Divide and conquer right? All these fairytale asinine allegations of Russian collusion. Never ending BS.

Most people see it as Democrats vs Republican but those who are paying attention know the stakes are much higher.



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 06:05 AM
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The deep state is there and we’re working on it .

It’s hard to drain the swamp when you’re ass deep in alligators .



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 06:47 AM
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For someone in the shallow end of this swamp here a gentle introduction into how some of it works as you get deeper into it.

How Do THEY Blackmail And Control STARS?


When your realize there is a large scale, state backed blackmail operation going on it does put some of the things going on in the media and politics in perspective. Sure, there are still stupid and incompetent actions going on. There is also a high powered culture that considers morals a weakness and is exploited.



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 07:12 AM
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a reply to: Fallingdown



It’s hard to drain the swamp when you’re ass deep in alligators .

And when you're breeding the swamp creatures and inviting new monsters in on a daily basis. Calling them cabinet does not change a thing.



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 07:14 AM
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a reply to: kwakakev

The owners gave you a place for this Q nonsense.
Keep the mess from seeping out will you.



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 07:32 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme



Keep the mess from seeping out will you.


That is what I am trying to do by exposing it. There is no chance in cleaning up a mess when you don't even know it exists.



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 07:57 AM
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a reply to: CitizenZero

"Deep" does not imply "smart." "Deep" implies "extensive."

Consider this: All bureaucrats, when hired, are hired based on an interview. During that interview, it is not the applicant's abilities that are examined as much as it is their allegiance to certain established ideals. The questions and answers do not have to be specific; it is simple enough for an interviewer, especially an experienced interviewer, to gather information from an applicant based on cues as to their general philosophy.

What policies? Well, that's even easier. Every politician that begins to rise in the local polls is vetted by the FBI, quietly, covertly, secretly. We now have direct evidence from the OIG that the FISA program and the FISC allow spying on Americans with no real amount of reasonable suspicion. So as a politician rises through the local ranks, their personal dossier gets more and more extensive, until they arrive in Washington DC. At that point, they are confronted with a choice: play the game according to established principles, or be outed and removed from office... or worse, be discredited and jailed, or even watch your loved ones discredited and jailed.

Everyone here should be familiar with the FBI as it existed under J. Edgar Hoover. There is evidence that Watergate was a direct result of J. Edgar Hoover's death and the new Director having a grudge against Nixon. Several Presidents from both political parties have mentioned concerns about the power the FBI holds over politicians.

The purpose is money, as it always is. How do politicians become millionaires in a few short years when their salary and expenses are so low? Again, a simple thing to explain: money laundering. And now, we have an indication of where some of this money laundering happens: foreign countries. That explains why we keep sending aid to foreign powers that obviously hate us (Iran Nuclear Deal, anyone?)... to keep them playing the game that politicians here win. These countries get preferential treatment and wads of cash, they funnel some of that cash back to politicians here, and those politicians keep sending them wads of cash. The only losers are We The People who get to pay for all this through taxes.

The same thing happens in the Global Warming debacle and Green New Deal. Anyone who is a scientist is dependent on grant money; science is not a lucrative profession because scientists don't actually make anything... they discover the principles that are then used to make things that can be sold. No bona-fide scientific experiment starts off with a solution; often the results are exactly opposite to what was originally expected. No company is going to risk millions of dollars on that kind of gamble, so the government does it. Almost all grant money comes from the government through Universities. So scientists who produce results skewed to support Global Warming get the grants, and the Universities toe the political line so their scientists can get the grant money. Are you aware that at least half of all grant money is taken by the schools up front as soon as it is received for "administrative fees"? It's true; I was in a University trying for grants as a Research Engineer working side-by-side with scientists. I saw it first hand.

When any corruption is extensive enough, there is no need for super intelligence. There are 50 ways from Sunday to cover up any obvious impropriety because everyone is in on it. That includes the media as well, and one can see from this very site how easily the masses are led by some guy they have never met and who doesn't even know or care that they exist, but simply sits behind a desk on the boob tube and tells them what to think.

Donald Trump was never in local politics; he was never a rising star. There was never a need to vet him through the FBI. Even up until the day he won the election, most people were not taking him that seriously. Hillary was a shoo-in, remember? The FBI didn't mobilize to investigate Trump until he was well into the campaign, and there wasn't enough time to find enough dirt to control him. What little they found (improprieties with porn stars and Playboy bunnies, for instance) were not enough to bother his supporters. A failed attempt called the Steele Dossier wound up being thoroughly discredited. That's why the FBI was investigating him so hard even into his Presidency. That's why all the uproar over the firing of the FBI Director. That's why the Special Counsel was given such wide authority to investigate anything and everything Trump. Mueller was unsure of the facts surrounding Russian collusion because that was not his job... his job was to find dirt on Trump. That's why the call for tax returns and financial information. That's why Stone, Manafort, Cohen, etc. were investigated so thoroughly. That's why the House took over the investigation when Mueller failed.

When looked at in that light, the purpose is as clear as the nose on one's face. Everything that has happened so far has been specifically designed to investigate Trump without restrictions, in a desperate effort to catch up and bring him back into line with established policy through blackmail. It has all been an investigation into a person to try and find a crime, not an investigation into a crime to try and find the guilty person.

Trump isn't perfect (despite what his ego tells him), but he is the crack in the wall that maybe can allow We The People to break through the layers of corruption that have built up over the years that we collectively call the "Deep State."

TheRedneck



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 08:09 AM
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FBI Chief Ted Gunderson exposes Satanism Pedophilia Elite Murder NWO full length


This 1997 presentation by Ted Gunderson goes for 3 hours, 45 min. The last two hours in the video is repeated material.

For a deep look this is a powerful presentation that covers many topics still relevant today. I was a bit surprised to find the term Arkincide was common back then. A lot of topics discussed in ATS are touched on through out the presentation with a stronger focus on some of the main cases involving children and the reluctance of the authorities to properly address them.
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posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 08:22 AM
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a reply to: CthruU

I would give almost anything to see the entire crap show dissolved and rebuilt. Audit every single member of government and then do a background check on the new members and let the public see how honest or true they are. If they want to represent the people, let the people see what they're hiding.



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 08:24 AM
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a reply to: CitizenZero

You don't believe we have lobbyists and people with immense influence and money to corrupt our government and control the narrative?

Deep state makes it sound like a conspiracy theory when it's really just selfish rich pricks



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 08:25 AM
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originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: CthruU

I would give almost anything to see the entire crap show dissolved and rebuilt. Audit every single member of government and then do a background check on the new members and let the public see how honest or true they are. If they want to represent the people, let the people see what they're hiding.


And don't forget term limits to get these old dusty bribed politicians in a nursing home where they belong



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 08:34 AM
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originally posted by: CitizenZero
I do not believe in Trump’s Deep State. I say this because it is too easy to explain the behavior of a bureaucratic organization by assuming that it is controlled by a cabal of our enemies. A Deep State would require a level of competence and coordination that seems to evade the president’s established haters.

That is not what I understand the Deep State to be.

It is not some organized cabal. In fact, there is no organization to it at all.

It is merely a bunch of like-thinking people - globalist state worshipers - who were hired into the governmental bureaucracy by globalist state worshiping mid-level bosses, that were hired/appointed by globalist state worshiping higher-level bosses, etc etc...

It was a planned infiltration long ago, described by the likes of Skousen and Quigley in their writings.



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 08:37 AM
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originally posted by: JDmOKI
And don't forget term limits to get these old dusty bribed politicians in a nursing home where they belong

No, term limits is not the solution.

The solution is two-fold...

1. The elimination of any/all 'retirement plans' for elected officials. They are paid while they serve. No more. No benefits after they leave office. PERIOD.

2. In-depth financial audits before assuming office, and after leaving office. Any discrepancies will be dealt with, and criminal charges proffered if warranted. No more unjust enrichment of politicians.

In fact, I'd say that these rules should apply to any and all government positions, whether for 'employees', or appointed or elected officials.



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 08:40 AM
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Watch Ex-CIA Agent Blow Agency's Pedo-Pushing Involvement Wide Open!!


John Kiriakou is an ex CIA agent that was jailed for exposing the CIA's torture program to a journalist. He would do it again. In this video John is at a seminar talking about how the CIA does look to recruit psychopaths and are taught how to lie, cheat and steal. He describes the lawless nature of the industry and the dilemmas faced when nothing is off limits to get the job done. If a source they are working with wants a child prostitute to get them on board, company policy is to provide it.

John's recommendation to address these issues is to disband the CIA.



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 09:06 AM
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a reply to: JDmOKI

Imagine where Pelosi, Schumer, etc would be if we had term limits. That would be a wonderful thing.



posted on Dec, 27 2019 @ 09:09 AM
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a reply to: tanstaafl

We already know of things these people have done that should force them to step down. The problem is that nothing ever happens. Even their pets, like Al Sharpton, that dude should be in federal prison for the taxes he hasn't paid and nothing happens to him.



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