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Who will take care of illegal immigrants who can no longer work?

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posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 03:40 PM
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What becomes of illegal immigrants in the USA when they become too old or disabled to work? Do they go back to their homelands and live off their savings? Do they qualify for whatever kind of social welfare is available in their native lands? Maybe they get taken care of here in the USA through a combination of their own savings, private charities and family members living here. Or do some of them qualify somehow for federal or state programs that pay for all or some of their needs?

Frankly, I have no idea and I doubt anyone else does. No one in government or immigrant advocate organizations wants to look into this issue closely or even think about it. Instead, what you usually hear is how much illegals contribute to our economy, and specifically, to Security Security and Medicare. The highest estimate I can find for illegals’ contributions to Social Security is $13 billion, and another $3 billion is thought to be contributed by them to Medicare.

That sounds impressive until you do a little digging and learn that in 2017, contributions to Social Security totaled $996 billion. That means illegal immigrants are contributing about 1.3 percent of all Social Security annual income.

In 2018, Medicare received $755 billion in revenue from various sources. The estimated $3 billion in contributions from illegals is about four-tenths of 1 percent of total revenue for Medicare.

Advocates of illegals, including the ever-sympathetic mainstream news media, always portray their contributions as having a major impact on funding for Social Security. They often describe their total contributions over a 10-year period, or even over 30 years, which sounds much more impressive.

I find it hard to believe the absence of 1.3 percent of funding would have a huge impact on Social Security. Yet advocates make it sound as though we’re taking advantage of illegals, getting a free ride from them since they (supposedly) don’t enjoy the benefits. I might have a little sympathy for illegals who’ve paid into the fund for more than 40 years like I have, but I suspect that’s highly unusual. And I wonder how someone living here illegally for 20 years or more could be irresponsible enough not to plan for their retirement, knowing they aren’t going to get SS benefits.

According to a recent study by MIT and Yale professors, the estimate commonly given for the number of illegal immigrants — 11 million — is only half the actual number, and it’s possible there may be as many as 30 million. All of these people are eventually going to be unable to work. Is anyone in government at all concerned about how their retirement or disability income will be financed? Can you picture the U.S. government deporting them when they can no longer pay for their needs? Once again, it’s Millennials, Generation Z, their children and grandchildren who will be paying for this generosity to foreigners living here illegally. I hope they realize this is being done by Democrats and the Left.
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posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 03:42 PM
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Is this a rhetorical question??


The same folks who are so hot to have 'em all here now...that's who. All they'll have to do is raise taxes to pay for it, and **poof** no more issue.



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 03:48 PM
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Same people who take care of them now, Us
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posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 03:52 PM
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Living in California tax, legal marijuana county tax, reconstruction after fire tax, texting tax, avocado tax, socker playing tax, rush hour driving tax's..... etc, that would line politicians pockets ......er pay for them..

oops, did I say that out loud ?



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 03:53 PM
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a reply to: Scapegrace

If I can I will help them.

It's the right thing to do.

And I don't need the government to give me permission.



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 03:54 PM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: Scapegrace

If I can I will help them.

It's the right thing to do.

And I don't need the government to give me permission.
made me think of Taco's



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 03:55 PM
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Can’t speak about all illegal immigrants but from what I’ve seen first hand. One elderly woman specifically, is taken care of by her family. Most of her kids have come together to help her financially and physically.



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 04:02 PM
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You are racist if you don't love the replacement citizens.



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 04:05 PM
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I like white....... no apology a reply to: Mandroid7



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 05:08 PM
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a reply to: scraedtosleep

Hey if you want to do that, knock yourself out. That however is not a mandate for the rest of us to provide the same service through taxation. When something is voluntary you're not infringing on the rights of others.



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 07:53 PM
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a reply to: Scapegrace The church. The body of body of Christ. When you have done it to the least of theses you have done it unto Me.
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posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 08:38 PM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: Scapegrace

If I can I will help them.
It's the right thing to do.
And I don't need the government to give me permission.

You could start by buying your own country and populating it with those you want to help. Let them figure out the politics and experience an interesting social experiment.



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 08:39 PM
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originally posted by: Plotus

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: Scapegrace

If I can I will help them.

It's the right thing to do.

And I don't need the government to give me permission.
made me think of Taco's

The Symphony Orchestra or the car?
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posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 09:01 PM
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a reply to: vethumanbeing

This is where I choose to help.



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 09:44 PM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: vethumanbeing

This is where I choose to help.

Where is This you are speaking of?



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 09:48 PM
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a reply to: Scapegrace

Since we're only 7 hours from Jesus's hour of birth in the manger, you picked a bad time to ask your question ScapeGrace. You'll get more honest answers after Christ's birthday.



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 10:26 PM
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originally posted by: vethumanbeing

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: Scapegrace

If I can I will help them.
It's the right thing to do.
And I don't need the government to give me permission.

You could start by buying your own country and populating it with those you want to help. Let them figure out the politics and experience an interesting social experiment.


It's already happening in America and the tax payers are actually paying for it.
Leave America for 20 or more years (which I've done) and come back. It's not the America (political scene ) that I grew up with. People lived and survived by their common sense back then.
Now, common sense can get you ... well, look what has happened to President Trump while representing the American people. In my opinion , "in good faith". Yes, I know about his past. But American's don't vote for someones past, its the future of a true leaders dream to have it country "prosper" and yet, those with no common sense are out to destroy his dream.

I said this on the forum before. Personally, he'll sell out and move to New Zealand with his family if he can.



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 11:11 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Scapegrace

Since we're only 7 hours from Jesus's hour of birth in the manger, you picked a bad time to ask your question ScapeGrace. You'll get more honest answers after Christ's birthday.

Jesus was not born on December 25th. He was born in September 6 months after John birth. Most likely during the feast of tabernacles.
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posted on Dec, 25 2019 @ 12:45 AM
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a reply to: musicismagic

Don't vote for a presidents past? Tell that to all the Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya crowd. Trump was one of the leaders of the birther movement.

I do not believe Trump is doing anything in good faith. Too many sketchy self wealth enhancing sticking up and sucking up to saudi arabia, russia and turkey for me to believe he is not corrupted or compromised in some form or fashion.

what's with his demonization of wind energy? What does he stand to lose by being so anti wind?

That's right leave America in any 20 year span and it won't be the America you grew up in. If you left in the 50s and came back in the 70s blacks would be drinking out of the same water fountain and swimming in pools with white people. If you left in the 70s and came back in the 90s there wouldn't be flag burning draft dodging hippies spitting on returning vets.

Every era had it's share of problems and every era has had it's share of improvements. Quit trying to act like the end is near to further the orange ones make America great again narrative.



posted on Dec, 25 2019 @ 06:17 AM
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This is one reason why I think I'd be cool with a one world government of some kind. No more excuses for avoiding problems like overpopulation. If there's only one government on the whole planet, they have to solve everyone's problems at the same time. I mean, obviously, they wouldn't do that because they don't give a # but still. Having a bunch of governments just makes all sorts of passing the buck possible.

Illegal immigrants didn't do anything wrong other than being born in the wrong country. It's all about the money, right? Would you care at all if there was enough money and jobs and so forth for everyone? Probably not.

We still have probably too many Americans making babies. Even if America is the promised land it's still very possible to die of cancer in a ditch under a bridge where all the shiny happy people driving their expensive cars are crossing. They might make a token effort to get you into a hospital just before you die so they can harvest your organs and sell them to the highest bidder.

Oh I'm cynical today. Merry flippin Christmas folks. Go buy stuff.
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