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Are the DNC & the Governor of California, among others, Involved in the Corruption in Ukraine?

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posted on Dec, 23 2019 @ 11:32 PM
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but at least there was no quid pro quo or extortion.

gee, what else hasn't surfaced but is the real reason why they're impeaching Trump; he's not impeached though.




posted on Dec, 23 2019 @ 11:38 PM
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a reply to: Ahabstar

Isn't also ironic how instead of becoming less corrupt the Ukrainian government became more corrupt?

Even the ex-Polish President admitted that Hunter Biden was chosen to be part of Burisma Holdings because of his name.


By VANESSA GERANovember 28, 2019

WARSAW, Poland (AP) — Aleksander Kwasniewski, a former Polish president who is on the board of the Ukrainian gas company Burisma, said Thursday that Hunter Biden was indeed chosen to join its advisory board because of his name. He said that is simply how the world of business works.
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AP Interview: Ex-Polish president defends Biden and Burisma

In other words Hunter Biden was chosen because his father was the VP and could reign in any investigations into the corruption of Burisma Holdings.

BTW, that ex-Polish President, Aleksander Kwasniewski, is to this day part of the board of Burisma Holdings. No wonder he is defending Joe and Hunter Biden.



edit on 23-12-2019 by ElectricUniverse because: add and correct comment.



posted on Dec, 23 2019 @ 11:47 PM
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originally posted by: FredT

originally posted by: visitedbythem
a reply to: FredT

I live here in Cali. This state is a mess ever since liberals took over. Homeless everywhere, crap on the sidewalks, and now in stores.
Proof is in the pudding, and we have silly pudding everywhere now and taxes up the ying. Im seeing my state self destruct



Whats that got to do with the false claim that the California National Guard went rouge?



California corruption!

How about that?



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 12:01 AM
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Such a theory...such BS.


Trump is going to tell you all that these theories are somehow correct. You poor fools. Don't you know that in a litle less then 5 years you will all look like fools?

Yes fools. You will all be called out as fools.

Sorry, but that is how history will frame you. Fools who followed a Hitler like guy. I can see how you Americans followed Hitler. It is a shame.

I imagine the Americans will have some retribution for your crimes. Your countrymen will have something for you at the end of Trumps term.

It won't be pretty. I think there will be blood.

So sorry for the Trumpers. But then, It was sad what they did to Hitler, right? And all the Nazis after the war....



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 12:01 AM
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Such a theory...such BS.


Trump is going to tell you all that these theories are somehow correct. You poor fools. Don't you know that in a litle less then 5 years you will all look like fools?

Yes fools. You will all be called out as fools.

Sorry, but that is how history will frame you. Fools who followed a Hitler like guy. I can see how you Americans followed Hitler. It is a shame.

I imagine the Americans will have some retribution for your crimes. Your countrymen will have something for you at the end of Trumps term.

It won't be pretty. I think there will be blood.

So sorry for the Trumpers. But then, It was sad what they did to Hitler, right? And all the Nazis after the war....



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 12:01 AM
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a reply to: visitedbythem

Heck, what's more, and despite the false claims from Aleksander Kwasniewski, there is a paper trail that shows Burisma Holdings did use Hunter Biden to leverage meetings with the State department under Obama "seeking a meeting with the State Department to discuss corruption allegations against the company."


By Erielle Davidson
November 7, 2019
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The letter to Pompeo was prompted by a series of State Department emails released via FOIA and published by reporter John Solomon, revealing that Burisma’s consulting firm had in fact mentioned Hunter Biden when seeking a meeting with the State Department to discuss corruption allegations against the company. A State Department email from February 2016 specifically cited Hunter Biden’s involvement with Burisma when discussing the possibility of setting up a meeting with Burisma’s consulting firm. According to the email, the consulting firm made the State Department aware that Hunter was one of their client’s employees.
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Emails Reveal Burisma Consulting Firm Leveraged Hunter Biden To Get State Dept. Meetings



edit on 24-12-2019 by ElectricUniverse because: add name of author of article.


(post by ElectricUniverse removed for a manners violation)

posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 12:09 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Sure. Have a happy day. And go be you. Which is a you. Which means you are a ....



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 12:16 AM
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I think that when Americans finally get fed up with Trump, there will be a bit of blood on the streets in the US. Sorry yanks. You bought this, and you paid for it. When your racist white nationalists finally get their beat-down in the public square, and you all cry about your 2nd civial war, don't come crying to us. You folks allowed these maniacs to breed for years. Now deal with them....



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 12:27 AM
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originally posted by: KrankBruder
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Sure. Have a happy day. And go be you. Which is a you. Which means you are a ....


Handsome man whom is always right?...



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 12:32 AM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 01:05 AM
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Anyway, to try to bring the topic back on course, here is some more evidence of this corruption linking the former Ukrainian administration and the Obama/Biden administration.



twitter.com...



by Tyler Durden
Thu, 11/21/2019 - 05:05
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A Ukrainian MP says a document leaked from the Ukraine's Office of the Prosecutor General contains claims against Burisma owner Nikolai Zlochevsky, as well as Hunter Biden and his partners - who allegedly received $16.5 million for their 'services' - according to Alexander Dubinsky of the ruling Servant of the People Party.
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"We will reveal the information about the financial pyramid scheme that was created in Ukraine and developed by everyone beginning with Yanukovich and later by Poroshenko. This system is still working under the guidance of the current managerial board of the National Bank, ensuring that money flows in the interest of people who stole millions of dollars, took it offshore and bought Ukrainian public bonds turning them into the Ukrainian sovereign debt," said Dubinsky, adding that "in both cases of Yanukovich and Poroshenko, Ms. Gontareva and companies she controls were investing the stolen funds."

Franklin Templeton named

According to Interfax-Ukraine, MP Andriy Derkach announced at the same press conference that deputies have received new materials from investigative journalists alleging that the 'family' of ex-President Yanukovych funneled $7.4 billion through American investment firm Franklin Templeton Investments, which they claim have connections to the US Democratic party."
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Ukrainian MP Claims $7.4 Billion Obama-Linked Laundering, Puts Biden Group Take At $16.5 Million



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 01:11 AM
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Here is another article with more juicy information.


Leesa K. Donner

And the plot thickens. While Democrats fill the American airwaves with a razor-thin impeachment storyline, Ukrainian members of parliament have gone public with a tale of large-scale corruption involving a U.S. company with ties to the Democratic Party.

And they are calling on President Trump to investigate.

Ukrainian MP Oleksandr Dubinsky asserted that the family of former president Victor Yanukovych “illegally obtained $7.4 billion and laundered the funds through an investment fund close to some representatives of the U.S. Democratic Party in the form of external government loan bonds,” according to the Interfax-Ukraine News Agency. The MPs say the money-laundering scheme is connected to Franklin Templeton Investments, which, in turn, is linked with high-level Democrats. More on that later, but first let’s follow the money.
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One does not have to dig deep to recognize close ties between Franklin Templeton Investments (FTI) and the Democratic Party. John Templeton Jr., son of the founder, was a major campaign donor to President Barack Obama. The largest shareholder in FTI is BlackRock Investment Institute, whose Managing Director is Thomas Donilon. He served as Mr. Obama’s national security advisor. There could be more links lurking, but as of this writing, Liberty Nation was not able to verify additional connections.
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Ukraine Officials Allege Major Corruption Scandal with DNC Linked Company




edit on 24-12-2019 by ElectricUniverse because: correct excerpt.



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 07:10 AM
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a reply to: Oleandra88


Karl Marx: “Accuse Your Enemy Of What You Are Doing, As You Are Doing It To Create Confusion”



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 08:17 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
Great find! S&F! Does anyone know why a little country like Ukraine is wealthy enough to line the pockets of corrupt politicians and business-people from all over the world?

Because the source isn't their wealth, it is ours. They are merely the money laundering 'conduit'.

There is so much potential for serious wrongs being righted right now, I'm terrified to jinx anything by even hoping too much for even a little real, actual justice.



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 08:28 AM
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a reply to: Waterglass

Thank you, that one exactly! Fits even better to the political direction...



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 08:41 AM
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a reply to: KrankBruder

Soundguy?....is that you?

I see you're still not over that massive case of butthurt.



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 08:55 AM
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edit on 12/24/2019 by semperfortis because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 09:00 AM
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a reply to: KrankBruder

lmao


….and what do you have against trans and gay people ?
Careful....your bigotry is showing.



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 10:01 AM
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originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: KrankBruder

lmao


….and what do you have against trans and gay people ?
Careful....your bigotry is showing.


So that was you in the pink body suit?

You did look cute, except for the missing front tooth and cleft lip. Better luck next time. Maybe go for a drunk GI on leave.



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