Are the DNC & the Governor of California, among others, Involved in the Corruption in Ukraine?

We have seen through the "impeachment sham" how the DNC/Socialist/democrat leaders all want to keep the old policies towards Ukraine that were set under the Obama administration. But why would they want this? Is it because the DNC/socialist/democrat leaders want to battle corruption in Ukraine? That claim that Pelosi, Schiff and other leaders in the socialist/democrat party have wanted to fight corruption is shown to be a lie when after Viktor Shokin was fired the agency put to investigate the corruption immediately CLOSED the corruption investigation into Burisma holdings.

But how deep does the rabbit hole is of " the corruption between Ukraine and the Obama administration and DNC leaders like Pelosi, Schiff, etc?

Well, perhaps if we look at "The Office of International Affairs" under the "California Military Department" it can show us how deep this corruption could be?

In June 1999 the California–Ukraine National Guard Partnership was made.

However, the www.calguard.ca.gov website used to have links within their site citing this cooperation. But those links don't seem to be there anymore?

Here is an archived copy, from 2013, about what is the purpose of this branch of the "California Military Department."

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Welcome to the International Affairs

Vision:

Build long-standing institutional affiliations that promote democracy with nations currently developing democratic civilian and military institutions.

Mission:

The Office of International Affairs provides the Adjutant General and Joint Forces Headquarters staff advice and policy recommendations on international initiatives for the California National Guard. This includes the Security Cooperation components of the National Security Strategy and National Military Strategy aspects of international relations activities conducted by the California National Guard.

The Office of International Affairs manages the State Partnership Program (SPP) with Ukraine. The SPP deploys California National Guard teams to Ukraine and brings Ukrainians to the United States for information sharing to assist Armed Forces of Ukraine in re-structuring, modernizing its forces, and strengthening principles of democracy and free market economies. Exchanges include information about the processes underpinning US military structures that result in subordination to civilian control, consensus building, methodologies for achieving objectives, and interagency coordination of civil/military issues. Future missions for International Relations will include partnerships with other countries to bring the same philosophy to these regions of the world as has been done successfully in the Baltics.

Along with California many other state National Guards are providing bilateral engagement partnerships with their partnered nation. As the program evolves, it is becoming a sophisticated security cooperation tool of US National Security Strategy which brings together civilian expertise, multi-level government agencies, NATO, non-government organizations and commercial interests to address social, economic, military and political issues such as border security, base conversion, emergency response, interagency cooperation, civil-military relations and security cooperation.
...

web.archive.org...://www.calguard.ca.gov/ia/Pages/default.aspx

The commander in Chief of this office of California's Military Department is the governor of California. Today "Gavin Newsom" is the governor of California whom assumed office on January 7, 2019.

On January 3rd of 2011 Jerry Brown became the governor of California, and on January 10th 2011 Gavin Newsom became the Lt. Governor of California.

List of governors of California

But wait, doesn't the Logan Act "criminalizes negotiation by unauthorized American citizens with foreign governments"?

Here is a description of the Logan Act.

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§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.

1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).
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Logan Act

I put "without authority from the United States" in bold because that term specifically states only the President of the United States, with Senate approval, can authorize negotiations with foreign countries.

However, The Office of International Affairs of California Military Department allows for the governor of California to bypass the Logan Act.

Ironically you can't find any reference to this "cooperation" in the www.calguard.ca.gov website anymore as far as I can tell.

We also have to remember that DNC leaders like Pelosi, Schiff, Swalwell, Jim Costa, and Maxine Waters are among others the most visceral opponents of President Trump, and they are representatives of California. Is it possible they are involved in the corruption which is why they are some of those in the socialist/democrat party whom have tried to pin on President Trump crimes that don't really exist? In fact, Pelosi, Schiff, and Swalwell have been, among others in the DNC, whom have tried to pin on President Trump the crime that Joe Biden, and his son partook in.

One of the main questions I have is, why have these socialist/democrat leaders kept on trying to pin on President Trump crimes which are obvious he didn't commit, and they keep attempting to claim that Joe, and Hunter Biden did nothing wrong despite Joe Biden himself admitting he bribed the Ukrainian authorities? Is it possible that they themselves (officials in the DNC) are involved in the corruption in Ukraine?

Remember that Ukrainian officials themselves have said that they have evidence of corruption between the DNC & the Obama/Biden administration with the former Ukrainian administration.

Ukrainian to US prosecutors: Why don't you want our evidence on Democrats?

Why is it that the www.calguard.ca.gov website seems to have been..."bleached" of any reference of this cooperation with Ukraine? Only the "wayback machine" has archived copies of sections of the www.calguard.ca.gov website which describe this cooperation. When was the www.calguard.ca.gov website "bleached" of this "cooperation"?

Article 1, Section 10.

No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation; grant letters of marque and reprisal; coin money; emit bills of credit; make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts; pass any bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law impairing the obligation of contracts, or grant any title of nobility. No state shall, without the consent of the Congress, lay any imposts or duties on imports or exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection laws: and the net produce of all duties and imposts, laid by any state on imports or exports, shall be for the use of the treasury of the United States; and all such laws shall be subject to the revision and control of the Congress. No state shall, without the consent of Congress, lay any duty of tonnage, keep troops, or ships of war in time of peace, enter into any agreement or compact with another state, or with a foreign power, or engage in war, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent danger as will not admit of delay.

California seems to keep forgetting that part I bolded. There is other things as well, like their excessive fuel taxes in conjunction with their ports could be seen as a hidden duty on other states...

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

"Accuse your enemy of your own wrong doing"

I wanted to quote Goebbels but after a closer look it turned out it is unclear if he really said that.

a reply to: Ahabstar

You are right. BTW, I mentioned in specific the former governor of California and the present governor because both of them were leading officials of California whom could have approved dealings with Ukraine when Hunter Biden entered into the agreement to work for Burisma holdings in 2014, when both Jerry Brown and Gavin Newsom were both governor and Lt governor of California.

The Ukrainian authorities have also stated that, and i quote:

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Financial records showing a Ukrainian natural gas company routed more than $3 million to American accounts tied to Hunter Biden, younger son of then-Vice President Joe Biden, who managed U.S.-Ukraine relations for the Obama administration. Biden’s son served on the board of a Ukrainian natural gas company, Burisma Holdings;
... Disbursements of as much as $7 billion in Ukrainian funds that prosecutors believe may have been misappropriated or taken out of the country, including to the United States.
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Ukrainian to US prosecutors: Why don't you want our evidence on Democrats?

I do wonder exactly when did those $7 billion U.S.D. were misappropriated and taken out of the country and brought "including" into the U.S.

Perhaps an investigation should be made into whether both, or either one, Jerry Brown and Gavin Newsom got any money in any of their accounts that came from Ukraine.

In order to bring that money from Ukraine to the U.S. even Joe Biden and his son must have had some friends in the government whom helped them get that money.

Despite the false claims made by both Joe and Hunter Biden some people within the Obama administration/DNC did have concerns about the Hunter Biden and Ukrainian oil deal.

by Alana Goodman
| August 27, 2019 06:30 AM

John Kerry’s stepson rushed to play damage control at the State Department after his business partner Hunter Biden cut a deal with an oligarch-owned Ukrainian gas company in 2014, according to internal State Department correspondence obtained by the Washington Examiner.

The correspondence adds to the questions about Biden's business activities, which have dogged the 2020 Democratic primary campaign of his father Joe. Hunter Biden's long history of drug and alcohol abuse, which contributed to his divorce and his dismissal from the Navy Reserve, has also attracted unwelcome publicity for the Democratic front-runner.

An email released to the Washington Examiner shows that Biden’s decision to join the board of Ukraine’s Burisma Holdings sparked immediate concern within his inner circle about the political optics. Biden’s father Joe — now vying for the 2020 Democratic Party nomination — was then vice president and overseeing the Obama administration’s Ukraine policy.
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John Kerry’s son cut business ties with Hunter Biden over Ukrainian oil deal

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Are the DNC & the Governor of California, among others, Involved in the Corruption in Ukraine?

Yes.

It's the only thing that rationally explains the current impeachment push.

The DNC is willing to sacrifice the 2020 Presidential election and lose the House.

They've just done it.

Why would they sacrifice so much politically?

To save their own asses personally.

A politician doesn't actually have any side besides their own, at the end of the day.

The reaction to Trump merely asking the Ukraine to look into the "Biden thing" is proof.

And here we are.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Great find! S&F! Does anyone know why a little country like Ukraine is wealthy enough to line the pockets of corrupt politicians and business-people from all over the world?

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Great find! S&F! Does anyone know why a little country like Ukraine is wealthy enough to line the pockets of corrupt politicians and business-people from all over the world?

Because we give them billions of dollars in American aid that they in turn launder and send back to the people voting for said aid?



ETA... they also have 5% of the mineral resources on the planet.

Most of their billionaires are into mining, steel, coal.

Do Rhinos slap their poop left and right..







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For those don't want to see the rhinos poop
www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Great find! S&F! Does anyone know why a little country like Ukraine is wealthy enough to line the pockets of corrupt politicians and business-people from all over the world?

Because we give them billions of dollars in aid that they in turn launder and send back to the people voting for said aid?

I forgot about that! It would explain why so many politicians affiliated with Ukraine become so wealthy, so quickly.

They are in effect asking for our vote, while stealing our money!

I'll be glad when this reality of awareness reaches the mainstream of Americans. I don't think anything short of indictments, will achieve that public awareness threshold.

a reply to: Lumenari

The Biden/Pelosi/Kerry crime family should have tapped in to Ukraine Mining, Steel, or Coal then. Not OIL. (Burisma)

The worst crooks are dumb crooks, LOL.

a reply to: carewemust

Don't forget Mittens.

His son worked in the Ukraine also.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Lumenari

The Biden/Pelosi/Kerry crime family should have tapped in to Ukraine Mining, Steel, or Coal then. Not OIL. (Burisma)

The worst crooks are dumb crooks, LOL.

Two of the top 7 Ukrainian billionaires are into banking and financing.

You know, dealing with things like aid packages...

Hmmmm, I do love the conclusion jumping etc and do get that the Trumpists get all a tingle with the desire to get after California but you do realize that the CA/Ukraine partnership is part of a federal program

The State Partnership Program has been successfully building relationships for 25 years and now includes 75 partnerships with 81 nations around the globe. SPP links a unique component of the Department of Defense - a state's National Guard - with the armed forces or equivalent of a partner country in a cooperative, mutually beneficial relationship.

The SPP evolved from a 1991 U.S. European Command decision to set up the Joint Contact Team Program in the Baltic Region with Reserve component Soldiers and Airmen. A subsequent National Guard Bureau proposal paired U.S. states with three nations emerging from the former Soviet Bloc and the SPP was born, becoming a key U.S. security cooperation tool, facilitating cooperation across all aspects of international civil-military affairs and encouraging people-to-people ties at the state level."

This cost-effective program is administered by the National Guard Bureau, guided by State Department foreign policy goals, and executed by the state adjutants general in support of combatant commander and U.S. Chief of Mission security cooperation objectives and Department of Defense policy goals.

Through SPP, the National Guard conducts military-to-military engagements in support of defense security goals but also leverages whole-of-society relationships and capabilities to facilitate broader interagency and corollary engagements spanning military, government, economic and social spheres.

www.nationalguard.mil...

I mean this thread has all the due diligence of a trump tweet but thanks for the laugh

a reply to: FredT

Want a God is gonna kick CA out with Earthquakes if Trump doesn’t do it first?

Successful program or not, the Constitution says no entering into pacts with other states of foreign countries. Not supposed to have standing armies in times of peace either. And paying in “kind” at Greatful Dead concerts...for shame.

Some politicians saw oportunity in dealing with the Corrupt Ukranian government, they were able to cover up any Democrats that were involved in things over there. Well, you would expect politicians to do that. I think the Republicans have known for a while that there was some bad things happening by some Democratic politicians but unless an investigation was started, they couldn't do a Damn thing. Is that why Trump was chosen to run, he has the balls to try to get things done, and is strong enough to take all the finger pointing and investigations that the Dems are throwing at him. I do not know any other president who sat in that white house that would have taken that kind of crap from the other political party.

a reply to: FredT

I live here in Cali. This state is a mess ever since liberals took over. Homeless everywhere, crap on the sidewalks, and now in stores.
Proof is in the pudding, and we have silly pudding everywhere now and taxes up the ying. Im seeing my state self destruct

originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: FredT

Want a God is gonna kick CA out with Earthquakes if Trump doesn’t do it first?

Successful program or not, the Constitution says no entering into pacts with other states of foreign countries. Not supposed to have standing armies in times of peace either. And paying in “kind” at Greatful Dead concerts...for shame.

But they did not. It was a federal program and when sent to the Ukraine or any of the other states national guards were they were in effects called up and under Federal Control. Hence it was the Federal government and the "Pact" was negotiated by the Feds

None of the states went rouge

And paying in “kind” at Greatful Dead concerts...for shame.

I have no idea what this means............ Not a huge fan of the Dead.

originally posted by: visitedbythem
a reply to: FredT

I live here in Cali. This state is a mess ever since liberals took over. Homeless everywhere, crap on the sidewalks, and now in stores.
Proof is in the pudding, and we have silly pudding everywhere now and taxes up the ying. Im seeing my state self destruct

Whats that got to do with the false claim that the California National Guard went rouge?

originally posted by: FredT

Whats that got to do with the false claim that the California National Guard went rouge?

BTW, you should learn to comprehend what people actually write. I didn't write "everyone in the California National Guard went rouge." I mentioned two people, the governor and Lt governor of California, alongside some socialist/democrat leaders... Not to mention the fact i wrote "possible corruption" and perhaps investigations into these people should occur. But this is exactly what you do every time. You make claims that I never made, and then use nothing but insults as an excuse to ignore facts...