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Has the deep state won? Have they eliminated the conspiracy era?

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posted on Dec, 23 2019 @ 09:25 PM
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originally posted by: Jefferton
I think most people just grew up.

It's fun to pretend and all that, but, not very productive.

So conspiracies are pretend? Like the Tuskeegee experiments? Gulf of Tonkin? MKUltra? Operation Mockingbird? Operation Paperclip? Operation Northwoods?

Don't entertain conspiracies, and you won't find answers.




posted on Dec, 23 2019 @ 10:16 PM
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The problem isn't that there are no conspiracy theories about. It is that you have immersed yourself in them.

It is exactly like people who say "America doesn't have culture". It does, it is just so pervasive and normalized that you don't see it as culture any longer.

Now apply that to conspiracy, and conspiracy theories. You are posting on a site that discusses them all the time, and now you are blind to them.



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 03:10 AM
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a reply to: Fools

You do realize OP never said left winger media holds the truth? Hmm OP didn't even say anything bad about msm right winger news like FOX..

Which only leads me to believe you are a partisan robot. Go back to your hellish matrix bot!



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 03:13 AM
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originally posted by: Jefferton
I think most people just grew up.

It's fun to pretend and all that, but, not very productive.


Being a maga guy or girl is growing up? I say nay. People became lazy, gave up on conspiracy, and picked a mainstream side.

This is why and how ATS became so lame. Endless partisan arguing is NOT maturity.



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 03:32 AM
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a reply to: kwakakev

IMO , Q has diluted conspiracy with false hope and turning trump into a savior.

And ATS is a showcase to what has happened... Now many conspiracy theorists consider the right as the truth and the left as "msn propaganda ".

Isn't it possible that Q and Trump are being used by Republicans to convert conspiracy theorists to mainstream Republican voters?


Q has failed in countless predictions and its only accomplishment is turning conspiracy theorists into cult-like trump worshipers.

Is Trump some anti-establishment hero concerning the war effort either? Hell no.. The guy lies about Afghanistan , declared indefinite stay in iraq, and upped drone strikes from obama (who was labeled as the drone king at the time!).

People keep bringing up hillary as if she was going to initiate ww3 but how could she do much worse than trump without creating a new war? I mean trump got out of the iran deal and put more sanctions on them..

Q has only established a line of loyal trump gullibles who would normally question both Republican and Democrat MSM but not are partisan hacks.

Q made countless predictions and claims but never came true and now their followers just spam pro trump posts across the internet under the guise of conspiracy and truth.



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 05:59 AM
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a reply to: Willtell

I watch Blaze TV, very good for conspiracies and UFO enthusiasts, even mentioned ATS yesterday on UFO encounters episode, very interesting. UFO files is on the channel. Ancient Aliens also shown on this channel! They have Xmas Files coming and much more. Free channel to view on TV and you can also download the TV channel app for your phone, iPad etc
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posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 07:22 AM
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originally posted by: rickymouse
By censoring conspiracy theorists they are essentially validating their claims. Conspiracy theorists have tried to uncover the deception in the Democratic party, that is leading to targeting by the deep state whatever that may be. I think that the deep state is actually a socialist movement comprised of people who want to rule the new government and force us to bow down to the leaders since they will be the only ones who are still free.


Freedom is an illusion and always has been. But, people are more “free” now than ever before due to:

- interconnectedness and access to information
- easily accessible domestic and international transportation
- reduces church participation which means greater free thought
- broader definitions of what’s “acceptable” which leads to more uniqueness of people
- less “tradition” which means more doing what people want/not what they’ve always done.
- more choices/options for just about everything

Etc.

This isn’t to say there isn’t some alternate agenda at work.... but to say we’re less free now is a stretch in my mind.



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 09:19 AM
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We are in a new era, sheep are bleating "conspiracies" that their shepherds sing to them at night.

The false left/right paradigm has almost completely taken over.

Make no mistake, if a person identifies as a direction, they have been compromised and will be spouting talking points from their shepherd, cnn/fox/internet, whatever.

This site is in it's death throws because of these left/right people, we used to call them sheeple, back when this was a conspiracy site.



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 09:35 AM
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a reply to: wheresthebody

Spot on (and great avatar by the way!).

I think conspiracies have become mainstream which is part of the problem with ATS. Also conspiracies are have become politically mainstream and since politics brought in new people to the conspiracy world the majority are falling for the left/right paradigm. That anyone who has been into conspiracies for longer than 5-10 years could possibly think that Trump (or Obama or anyone who actually becomes president) is "on their side" or is "battling for them" is complete foolishness.

Conspiracy theory has never been about left/right - it has about us/them.




posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 09:44 AM
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a reply to: entermemo

A million thanks to you brother/sister!

That must be it, people are already so hyper polarized by the time they start seeing the web of lies that is reality, that it just feeds the divide.

But really, how can anyone trust a person who wants authority over them!?!

It's actually insane!


By the way, the vids not working and I would like to see what you are sharing!
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posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 10:10 AM
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a reply to: Fools






All I can say to you is keep watching NBC/ABC/CBS/BBC for the TRUTH.



I don’t watch NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, Fox for news at all.

I certainly don’t go to them on the web either

For actual news, I watch mostly Euro News (which isn’t that great since they do Robo news)to get out of the weak American (tabloid) news cycle of mainly left/right politics, crime, and entertainment.


Also, I might add I don't go to any of them for " truth"

none of them have any truth just perspectival trivia!






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posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 10:30 AM
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So you have a conspiracy theory about conspiracy theories?
Nice!
a reply to: Willtell



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: EnigmaChaser

originally posted by: rickymouse
By censoring conspiracy theorists they are essentially validating their claims. Conspiracy theorists have tried to uncover the deception in the Democratic party, that is leading to targeting by the deep state whatever that may be. I think that the deep state is actually a socialist movement comprised of people who want to rule the new government and force us to bow down to the leaders since they will be the only ones who are still free.


Freedom is an illusion and always has been. But, people are more “free” now than ever before due to:

- interconnectedness and access to information
- easily accessible domestic and international transportation
- reduces church participation which means greater free thought
- broader definitions of what’s “acceptable” which leads to more uniqueness of people
- less “tradition” which means more doing what people want/not what they’ve always done.
- more choices/options for just about everything

Etc.

This isn’t to say there isn’t some alternate agenda at work.... but to say we’re less free now is a stretch in my mind.


Actually, even though I am not religious, I do think that some of the teaching of most Christian churches is good for society. Much of the good in our society and in socialism is based on the basic teachings of the bible. Thou shall not kill, thou shall not steal, thou shall not covet the neighbors wife. Of course there are new laws like pedophile laws, but even in the bible there are writings about inappropriate behavior towards women. Back sixty years ago, it was not uncommon for woman to be married in this country at a young age. But it was often because a girl got pregnant and it was a shotgun wedding sort of. Now, there are many women that are fending for themselves, I think the old way was much better myself. Half of us would not be here today if abortions were legal when our grandparents were around. Remember, I am in my sixties.

You can have free thoughts even if you are a church goer, I do not know that many real holyhoppers. Our society is not crumbling because of Christianity now, in fact it is the opposite. Crime is way up, how is that related to freedom of thought, I have to worry a lot more now about getting robbed than I did when I was young. Freedom to fear is promoted by government and society these days, Christianity actually says you can protect yourself from criminals, not just white criminals.



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 11:35 AM
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a reply to: Willtell

Because what people used to criticize conspiracy theorists for is now accepted as common knowledge.
The conspiracy theories of the past are the truth of today and it is a hard pill to swallow for some.
Plenty of conspiracy theories still out there but many are only political now.



posted on Dec, 24 2019 @ 03:04 PM
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There are levels of conspiracy.
Some examples...

911 was an inside job. The CIA and other Intel Military groups killed JFK and RFK, Malcolm X and MLK.

Conspiracy to hide alien technology

The famous Deep-State Illuminati conspiracy of bluebloods that rule our lives.

That’s the conspiracy that has been distorted by the Trump followers. So, it seems they are being used as useful idiots to distort the idea of a Bilderberger elite group being the deep state for some silly nonsense about Liberals and George Soros being the deep state.

The deep state controls republican and democratic ideas and people both.

They are behind Obama, Bush, Clinton, and Trump and all the presidents of the past and future and all the candidates.



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