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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: chr0naut
Not hoity toity, just unbearingly smug in the knowledge that I'm right and you're not.
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: burdman30ott6
90% of US Media says President Trump is SCARED TO DEATH of facing Joe Biden next November. That's why he's pulling strings all over the globe to find anything that can be used against this juggernaut.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: shawmanfromny
Exactly what negative did the President have to endure in this showing of "the power of the gavel?" His numbers are up, the economy continues to boom, he's still POTUS, and the Senate isn't going to entertain this ridiculous BS the House Dems patted themselves on the back over. LMAO, talk about a toothless power display!
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: burdman30ott6
Yep... President Trump will definitely do another 4 years...and possibly followed by a Trump family member in 2025.
Will the senate trial un-impeach Trump? Or, will it in fact remove him from office, or not, as the vote may be?
They aren't going to declare Trump innocent. Almost no-one at this stage doubts that he did what he did. What they are going to vote on is if he stays in his job, or if we all get to say "You're fired"!
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: chr0naut
Well, I see you're back in fine form.
Will the senate trial un-impeach Trump? Or, will it in fact remove him from office, or not, as the vote may be?
An impeachment is nothing more than a formal accusation. It has no merit until and unless the Senate convicts. We don't do "guilty until proven innocent" over here. The House used partisan politics to level formal accusations at President Trump (assuming Pelosi actually delivers the Articles of Impeachment... if not, all they did was flap their lips). Now he gets his day in court, in front of the US Senate. If he is acquitted (which he likely will be if a trial is held at all) then yes, I suppose you could say he is "un-impeached." He remains innocent.
]Never heard anyone use the term "un-impeach"... did you come up with that all by yourself?
They aren't going to declare Trump innocent. Almost no-one at this stage doubts that he did what he did. What they are going to vote on is if he stays in his job, or if we all get to say "You're fired"!
Whoa, you're getting better at being wrong!
Firstly, Donald Trump is innocent legally. He has not been convicted of anything (despite the best attempts of the FBI, a partisan Special Counsel, and the House Democrats using kangaroo court tactics). Secondly, the polls say you are a liar... a great many people in the US think he is actually innocent (what people in other countries think is a moot subject). Thirdly, "we" won't get to say "you're fired." The Senate has that power, but the Senate is not the people... the Senate is 100 out of about 300,000,000 people. The people speak through the voting booth, not through a super-minority of people they really don't trust in the first place. And finally, since by using the pronoun "we" you have included yourself, even if the people were to say "you're fired" in 2020 (which is about as likely now as a snowflake in a hot oven lasting twenty years), YOU are not one of them. YOU do not vote for the US President. YOU get a voice in the politics where YOU are. YOU have zero say in American politics.
TheRedneck
Bill Clinton was impeached but acquitted. He wasn't un-impeached.
But I can debate on ATS.
And it is still a long way until the election.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: shawmanfromny
Just my opinion. . . .
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg is going to cross that rainbow bridge sooner rather than later.
Democrats are terrified that Trump will put in someone that will change the course of the Judicial system for decades, removing the leftist activist elements from the system.
This upsets the left more than anything because they won't easily be able to eliminate rights, freedoms without the court in their favor.
originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: chr0naut
You do realize you are innocent until convicted in the US...not sure how it is in NZ but thats how it is here. So if not convicted he is innocent because guilt must be proven not innocence.
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: chr0naut
Bill Clinton was impeached but acquitted. He wasn't un-impeached.
And served out two terms. In the history books, his impeachment is a footnote of trivia. They tend to focus more on his achievements (and yes, Clinton had some achievements). The scandal gets more print time than the impeachment.
But I can debate on ATS.
Well, that's debatable in itself. You can post on ATS; I'll give you that.
And it is still a long way until the election.
Yep. Trump may, at this pace, be the first President ever to have over 100% approval. Hell, he's already done a half-dozen things I never thought were possible, so what's one more?
TheRedneck
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: shawmanfromny
Yeah, but you guys frequently said she was delaying, and that it wouldn't happen.
Then, it did, and before Christmas.
Now, six days after the impeachment, once again you are saying she is delaying and it won't happen.
Wake up and smell the covfefe!
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: shawmanfromny
Yeah, but you guys frequently said she was delaying, and that it wouldn't happen.
Now, six days after the impeachment, once again you are saying she is delaying
Wake up and smell the covfefe!
originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: shawmanfromny
The Trump presidency is a crime wave. It probably will not end.