I used to be a Democrat.

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I post that video to begin my topic for a good reason, I'm not expecting that video to do the work of this topic it is simply an example of what Socialist policies would do to this country.

Why I say I used to be a Democrat is because the party has gone far far to left, I remeber the Democratic party of the late 90's and early 2000's were more moderate in there policies . I respected the Democratic party because they didn't cling to Religion, Religion the great destroyer of logic and reason. Religion is the reason Genetic research, stem cell research , organ cloning etc etc etc is not the norm in our every day lives , these ground breaking sciences have been shelved because they are seen as an affront to God. How much further evolved would the human race be were it not for the rediculous notions of religion? I digress ...my argument is not with God its with religion so I will leave that subject alone.

The Dems have done a number of things in recent years that have made me stop and think , One example is Climate change aka "Global warming" which the dems have clung to like religion itself, They seem to be ignoring science and scientist on this particular subject. What I mean by this is Climate Change is a perfectly normal natural rotation of planet Earths climate shifts over the life of our beautiful planet. Plenty of proof to back this up and yet they ignore it.

Another policy shift by the Dems pushing me away is there incessant bantering about needing free health care, and other "free" services. Take a look at the health care provided by the V.A. that is an example of free government health care on a small scale. And you want this for the entire country ? Are you out of your minds ? Take a close look at socialist govvernments around the world how many of those are over whelming successes ? We fought a war for 50 years against communism aka socialism called the cold war, and now we are just going to go belly up and decide that we some how can do socialism better than the rest of the country's that have tried it . No logic , no reason, thats not the democratic party I know.

But with out question the most recent fiasco with the President Trump impeachment has pushed me completely out of the blue corner, so much rage and illogical hatred. Maybe he did break the law maybe he didn't either way you prove it beyond a reasonable doubt before doing something as irrational as a groundless impeachment .

They are Scared of this man and I'm not down with cowards. Stand and fight use your reason , dont just make # up. I say it again they are scared of Donald Trump ,and I dont respect anyone who cant stand up for there own ideals in the face of alternate Ideals no matter how much you disagree with them.

Trump does remind me more of the Democrats in the past under JFK than the war hawk Republicans under Bush. Perhaps the republicans under Ronald Regan is a bit closer. The democrats these days look to be more overrun by globalists and is going wacky. Their job is to run America, not the world through the hidden hand.

Facts matter.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

You're not alone. Approximately 30% of attendees at Trump rallies are now registered DEMOCRATS.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Why I say I used to be a Democrat is because the party has gone far far to left,

Funny. Because what you consider far left is center right in the rest of the world. But, moving on..

Another policy shift by the Dems pushing me away is there incessant bantering about needing free health care, and other "free" services. Take a look at the health care provided by the V.A. that is an example of free government health care on a small scale. And you want this for the entire country ?

No. We want free and affordable healthcare that works. No one anywhere is saying it’s going to copy the V.A. system. It’s disingenuous for you to compare the push for accessible healthcare to a system that’s been torn apart by the party you now call home.

Take a close look at socialist govvernments around the world how many of those are over whelming successes ? We fought a war for 50 years against communism aka socialism called the cold war, and now we are just going to go belly up and decide that we some how can do socialism better than the rest of the country's that have tried it . No logic , no reason, thats not the democratic party I know.

That you conflate helpful socialist policies with communism shows you have zero understanding of either. Yes, please take a look at the countries who have socialist healthcare systems. Whatever the negatives may be are a far cry from the broken system of American healthcare that is bankrupting people at an alarming rate and killing others.

I used to be a Democrat.

Yeah right. And I used to be a giraffe. You couldn’t be any more transparent if you were a new windshield.

a reply to: underwerks

Funny. Because what you consider far left is center right in the rest of the world. But, moving on.. 

On what planet is this? Please elaborate.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow


They seem to be ignoring science and scientist on this particular subject. What I mean by this is Climate Change is a perfectly normal natural rotation of planet Earths climate shifts over the life of our beautiful planet. Plenty of proof to back this up and yet they ignore it.

I stopped reading after this.
BTW, I was an astronaut once, believe me.

originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
a reply to: underwerks

Funny. Because what you consider far left is center right in the rest of the world. But, moving on.. 

On what planet is this? Please elaborate.

On the rest of the western hemisphere

Parties aside, I will never understand anyone who wants more money taken from them. Whether it be payroll tax, union dues..who in their right mind wants to give their earned income to complete strangers willingly.

I do not understand.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Years ago, so did I.
As some observant fellow once
said recently,
" I did not leave the Democratic Party,
they left me."
That is potentially the most devastating
wake up call for the Democratic directional
campaign managers.
As it requires a true look into the mirror,
and as we all know,
No One ever likes what they see.
S&F

originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow


They seem to be ignoring science and scientist on this particular subject. What I mean by this is Climate Change is a perfectly normal natural rotation of planet Earths climate shifts over the life of our beautiful planet. Plenty of proof to back this up and yet they ignore it.

I stopped reading after this.
BTW, I was an astronaut once, believe me.

Ummm...yes...yes...a true believer...an Asstronaut...of the order of Albert...we hold these truths these Goreisms...as self evident...

From your prophets lips to the ear of anthropogenia...

For it was told...that in the year of our lord...(all hail AGW)...2019...the face of the earth shall be inundated...much as it was in the days of Noah...

As the last ice cube...melts...as the last polar bear expires from heat stroke...darkness settles once again over the face of the waters...

(All hail AGW)







YouSir

a reply to: YouSir

We all screw up now and then.
But,,,HooHaa!
That was hilarious!

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
Parties aside, I will never understand anyone who wants more money taken from them. Whether it be payroll tax, union dues..who in their right mind wants to give their earned income to complete strangers willingly.

I do not understand.

Ummm...dude...didn’t you get the memo...?

Those aren’t taxes...

Rather...they are tithes...

Now get thee back into the midst of the herd...and utter opinion no more...


That’ll be thirty self flagellated lashes for you...and a buck three eighty five...





YouSir

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
Parties aside, I will never understand anyone who wants more money taken from them. Whether it be payroll tax, union dues..who in their right mind wants to give their earned income to complete strangers willingly.

I do not understand.

Well, if you want single payer, you actually want to pay less. Facts matter.

originally posted by: ErEhWoN

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
Parties aside, I will never understand anyone who wants more money taken from them. Whether it be payroll tax, union dues..who in their right mind wants to give their earned income to complete strangers willingly.

I do not understand.

Well, if you want single payer, you actually want to pay less. Facts matter.

Ummm...I know...

Cause...less is more...

I just love me some...common core...don’t you...?





YouSir

Cause...less is more...

a reply to: YouSir

You must have voted for Trump...he loves that kind of mentality. So does the GOP. I should know, used to vote for them.

I used to be a Democrat.

Almost everyone is born a liberal .
They remain that way until they grow up and learn better.
Some never grow up though.
Posted by one that Cartman would say was a "Tree Hugging Liberal Hippie". Until he grew up.

a reply to: underwerks

We want free

These 3 words define the democrat party.

NOTHING in life is free.

a reply to: underwerks

It would be exactly like the VA, government run. It’s also not free to people that actually have jobs. But you just pointed out the exact problem with the left these days.

Once healthcare is government run. There will be no more innovations or breakthroughs, prices will gradually increase while the quality will decrease. Just like everything else the government controls.

My family are all Democrats, and have been for as many generations that I can research. After president Trump was elected, who I voted for while a Democrat and witnessing the total insanity of attacks against him and the undermining of his authority, I re-registered as an Independent.

I will stay that way until the present iteration of the Democratic party succumbs to self destruction and reboots. I am not going to hold my breath on that, either.

I’m actually a leftist, I can’t for the life of me relate to any leftist party in any western country at the moment, they’re globalist & communist parties

I support many left wing policy’s but they’ve become to radical and authoritarian for my liking, I find myself voting for what the media calls far right parties to justify how far left they’ve become when they’re actually centrist left/right parties

I fail to see how it’s all just coincidence, what it looks like to me is globalists pushing left wing parties to become radical far left communist parties