Wanted New System build advice

originally posted by: neo96
Looks like I am gonna have to camp out on the Best buy website for the next few days.

The 3950x is suppose to be arriving on the 24th or there after.

Processor is the only thing holding up my purchase order

Unless someone knows of another reliable site to order it from for the same price.

Microcenter ?
They may be running one of their HUGE sales.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: MarlbBlack

I'm aprehensive about going AIO water cooling.

I've never once turned my pc off since I built it.

Air cooled.

Air cooled .
Just make sure it is balanced for intake and exhaust.
Dont laugh at the following , please.
My 2600x is in a case that the side has a large meshed opening.
The back half has a large side case fan
The front side is nothing.
I have a small circular floor fan blowing into that part (on low of course....)
Plenty of exhaust fans at the rear.
Playing the most demanding games neither the CPU or the GPU gets up to 60C
None of the others like southbridge , any of the vrms , etc . even twitch

Remember , I said don't laugh
Goth

originally posted by: MarlbBlack
a reply to: neo96

ah nice I was looking at ATX mid tower

Full towers give more room for air circulation.
Goth

a reply to: Gothmog

oh I got a full size, my big fatty fingers just slide in her so nicely.. i'll never go back to mid

a reply to: neo96

All things considered, as others have said, I'd go Ryzen. In fact I actually did go Ryzen last July ( 3700X and X570 Taichi ).

For the uses you're suggesting 3900X/3950X are probably total overkill - with the caveat that there's nothing wrong with overkill if that's part of the goal.

The 1,000 watt PSU is also in the same category. Ryzen 2 chips are amazing but they're not really overclockers. Just turn on Precision Boost Overdrive in BIOS or Ryzen Master and you'll wind up just a hair below what you'd get if you spent time figuring out an OC sweetspot. A 750 watt PSU would be more than enough - same overkill caveat applies.

With Ryzen RAM matters a lot. The fasted RAM possible. Samsung B die or Micron E die RAM is what most overclockers I've talked to or read posts from tend to prefer. Essentially any 3200 RAM with a CL of 14 or a faster kit ( 3600+ ) with a CL of 16. Fast RAM is the best way of improving Ryzen 2 performance.

You can use the Ryzen DRAM calculator to dial in the tightest timings and to help find the sweet spot.

Zen 2 takes a bit of getting used to in some ways. Hardware monitoring software has a difficult time keeping up with how Zen 2 polls voltages and reads temps and some monitors can cause one to panic as it can seem like the CPU is running too hot and is stuck at 1.49 volts. This isn't the case. Using Ryzen Master or HWInfo64 currently provides the most accurate readings.

If you do go for one of the overkill, higher thread count variants, focus on air flow because the CPU and VRM will tend to get a bit warm when under full load.

With all those random thoughts done... I think you'll be happy with the purchase. I have been.

originally posted by: MarlbBlack
a reply to: Gothmog

oh I got a full size, my big fatty fingers just slide in her so nicely..

i'll never go back to mid

I used to go around searching for the full server tower cases.
Airflow and Room

This has become a major pain.

On my third attempt at order atfer I called my bank to see what the effing deal was.

'No problem'. They said.

Resubmit your order.

ETA:

4th attempt.

Finally!

Soon to be Ryzen 3950x owner.

Now I hope the motherboard doesn't arrive DOA and won't post.

Cause that would suck.

After going through 3 people and two hours on the phone.

First one said they fixed it.

Second one said they fixed it.

The third one really did fix it.

a reply to: neo96

You got lucky. Zen 2 SKU's can be hard to buy. Hard enough that some critics insisted it was a paper launch. To be fair HDT Intel SKU's can be equally as hard to actually buy in real time. Up until recently the AMD subreddit daily included posts from people who preordered 3900X's but had yet to receive them - 5ish months past launch.

So congrats on the grab!

Also your MOBO - should - be fine. With X570 the dumpster fire was with mid range MSI boards. Gigabyte, ASUS and ASRock all wound up with decent boards.

a reply to: Hefficide

Thanks.

It's been over 10 years since my last build, and Asus made me a fan for life.

I'm excited first new puter in ages.

I did go with corsair vengenace ddr4 3600.

a reply to: neo96

Hey Neo!

Wondering if you've brought that 32 thread beast to life yet?

If so have you experienced the joy of watching all those little boxes in Cinebench R20 basically insta-fill?

Also if so - please consider sharing system pics and / or benchmarks with us!

a reply to: Hefficide

Wondering if you've brought that 32 thread beast to life yet?

I'm still waiting on the deliveries.

I'm mad about it.

They broke everything up in to seperate orders, and shipping.

As it stands right now ALL I've gotten is my Nvme drives.

Everything else is in transit.

Scratch that.

My motherboard hasn't even shipped yet.

I guess the Holidays?

Blah.

a reply to: neo96

Is that evo ssd nvme?

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: neo96

Is that evo ssd nvme?

Yeah I screwed up.

And got 2 970 Evo Plus @ 500 Gb.

Already got the driver USB ready to go for raid.

a reply to: Hefficide

If so have you experienced the joy of watching all those little boxes in Cinebench R20 basically insta-fill?

Not the cinbench we're looking for.

Cinebench R20

a reply to: neo96

While it's nice to have a raid setup. It's not really necessary with ssd.

Boot time is stupidly fast with ssd. Game load time is great as well.

Though If you wanted some sort of parity in case one fails.... go for it.

a reply to: grey580

Woudln't be so sure.



www.asus.com...

a reply to: neo96

You'll have to test it out..

I guess it depends on what raid you choose. Someone did raid 0 with 2 nvme and found that sequential performance was better but the access times were a bit slower. Looking at the benchmarks other stats were slightly better better in raid 0, better enough to justify the cost of 2 Nvme drives? I don't know. But I guess YMMV.

If anything you have bragging rights of having a dope pc with dual nvme drives. lol

Oh one thing I did read. Windows 10 raid was usually faster in most situations.