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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: OccamsRazor04
why were these witnesses not called before the vote
They, and a bunch of documents, were subpoenaed, but Trump ordered his staff to ignore the subpoenas. That's why Trump has been impeached for obstruction of Congress.
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
I can't think of a single reason the House would do this if the impeachment is not simply a political weapon without any actual merit. Thus, this thread, I am wondering if anyone can make sense of it, I can't.
That's not obstruction of congress, it's called executive privilege, and Obama/Holder did the same exact thing.
Trump and his administration refused to acknowledge Congress' right to subpoena, ignored the subpoenas while the president claims a made up status of "absolute immunity" for him and all of his staffers and aides.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
Because these alleged 'witnesses' don't exist,
They exist. The Democrats have asked that the Senate call 4 key witnesses, who ignored their subpoenas.
Those witnesses are acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney, former National Security Advisor John Bolton, Mulvaney’s senior advisor Robert Blair, and Associate Director for National Security at the Office of Management and Budget Michael Duffey. They’re all current or former members of President Donald Trump’s administration who have direct knowledge of his discussions with Ukraine about political investigations and military aid. All four were called to testify as part of the House inquiry, though they declined to show up.
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Mach2
That's not obstruction of congress, it's called executive privilege, and Obama/Holder did the same exact thing.
Yeah, Obama's administration acknowledged Congress' right to subpoena, but cited executive privilege as to the content. Trump and his administration refused to acknowledge Congress' right to subpoena, ignored the subpoenas while the president claims a made up status of "absolute immunity" for him and all of his staffers and aides.
Because Trump refused to acknowledge Congress' authority, and refused to acknowledge their subpoenas, he ws impeached for obstruction of Congress.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Mach2
I made nothing up. Impeachment isn't a judicial event, it's the purview of Congress and the House of Representatives. It doesn't involve the Judicial Branch and the Judicial Branch has no authority in matters of impeachment.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Mach2
I made nothing up. Impeachment isn't a judicial event, it's the purview of Congress and the House of Representatives. It doesn't involve the Judicial Branch and the Judicial Branch has no authority in matters of impeachment.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Mach2
I made nothing up. Impeachment isn't a judicial event, it's the purview of Congress and the House of Representatives. It doesn't involve the Judicial Branch and the Judicial Branch has no authority in matters of impeachment.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: OccamsRazor04
why were these witnesses not called before the vote
They, and a bunch of documents, were subpoenaed, but Trump ordered his staff to ignore the subpoenas. That's why Trump has been impeached for obstruction of Congress.
That's not the Senate's Job.
originally posted by: rickymouse
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Mach2
I made nothing up. Impeachment isn't a judicial event, it's the purview of Congress and the House of Representatives. It doesn't involve the Judicial Branch and the Judicial Branch has no authority in matters of impeachment.
There are rules governing the use of impeachment, the Democrats tossed out the rules set up by those who created and developed it.