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Trumps direct and to the point letter to Nancy Pelosi

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posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 03:33 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

he was pretty clear towards the end (for those who read it) that his purpose here is to simply create a record of his position.




posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 03:34 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

I'm a simple guy.

I like to break things down to the fundamental facts.

That way there's no room for misinterpretation.



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 03:36 PM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: UKTruth

Oh # he plans to be president for hundred years? Last line, fun with language


haha yes. You could indeed read it that way!
He's found the secret to immortality. Now that would really stir up some trouble



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 03:36 PM
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originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

they found differing opinions not a scrap of actual hard core evidence that would have brought most of the country into the impeach him camp.


Round objects. Let me guess - if Obama has been accused of the same things you would now be calling for his immediate execution for high treason.
It'a the utter lack of consistency and basic logic that baffles me right now about the pro-Trump people out there.


See this right here... this is why the DNC is up the creek without a paddle... I didnt vote for trump, I wont vote for trump in 2020 but yall making wild accusations kind makes me want to.

I have said repeatedly that trump isn't the problem Obama wasn't the problem congress is the problem, yet there is a segment of society that cant see past their "team winning" to try and actually vote for people that want to do things right.



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 03:37 PM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: UKTruth

he was pretty clear towards the end (for those who read it) that his purpose here is to simply create a record of his position.




Yes, though I still think this is going to be his campaign content.



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 03:39 PM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: UKTruth

He wrote a letter? So what?
Polosi doesn't even have to read it does she? Is there a law that forces her to read any letter from a potus?

It's not like this will change her mind or anyone else's.

Seems to me all this letter does is give fuel to those that wish to make fun of the potus.
In fact I think the only thing we hear about this letter going forward will be the jokes people make about it.

I'm a wrong? Does this letter carry any kind of legal weight? Does it have any power to change anything? Will any actions have to be taken because of what it says?

This was a weird move.


It was Trump's way of letting everyone know how unorthodox this whole impeachment nonsense is.



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 03:41 PM
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By looking at the content of this and the style of writing you would think it was some random cult 45 member on ATS that wrote it not the sitting POTUS


Sounds to me like Trump and Stephen Miller got together for a Sudafed tea party before they authored this not so lawyerly "I'm not the criminal, you're the criminal" rant.

I'd sure like to see Trump make some of allegations under oath!


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posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 03:44 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: AngryCymraeg
perhaps you could get the english to tooth impaired english translation and it would make sense to you?




I get what you're saying - can I get it translated out of its original Orange Angry Bloviatarian? That's an excellent point. Does anyone here speak that strange and bizarre rant of a language?. And I can't imagine what the original original version was like. His handwriting is deeply strange.


I purposely did not put this in the mudpit as this is now a historical record of what the Democrats have done and are doing to the President, from his and many millions of other people's perspective.
If you actually do understand the Constitution and have done some study on what impeachment really means - e.g. Hamilton notes and Federalist papers then please do highlight where you think the President is wrong in his assessment.


This is a historical record of a half senile president that one day says he would gladly participate in the impeachment hearings and next day launches child-alike attacks and does everything in his power to stop the impeachment.


The letter makes it clear he's following events and interpreting them pretty accurately. I'd say his mind is pretty sharp and has nailed the message in terms of what his base thinks. Now, is it all true? Not all of it is factually correct, some of it is his opinion on motive, but the key lines of attack are in the main factually correct and supported by documentation.


Why just not for once admit he is lying? He is a lying s.o.b no matter how hard you tray to spin it and call it something different. It's not factually incorrect, it's called LIES.


You'll have to be more specific. What are you referring to exactly.
Which part of the letter is a lie?


I'd like to know that myself.

This is comical to watch...need popcorn.


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posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 03:45 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: XCrycek




By looking at the content of this and the style of writing you would think it was some random cult 45 member on ATS that wrote it not the sitting POTUS


Sounds to me like Trump and Stephen Miller got together for a Sudafed tea party before they authored this not so lawyerly "I'm not the criminal, you're the criminal" rant.

I'd sure like to see Trump make some of allegations under oath!


Under oath - which specific statement would get him trouble?
I've seen a few anti-Trumpers in this thread now who've swung by to claim the President is just ranting, ironically with rants of their own.
Why not get specific if you have something you disagree with? Otherwise I fail to see why you even commented other than to just feed your own emotional state or hurl mud.


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posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 03:45 PM
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originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Seriously? It's all been meticulously detailed elsewhere.
By the way, I cannot even begin to describe how much you have disappointed me in the past few years. I used to look up you as a good and sensible mod.



Instead of showing proof, you attack his integrity? That's pretty low.

I've always and still know Tex for being a person that actually focus on FACTS when he's making his point. Even his opinions are more factual than majority of news outlets in comparison. Funny stuff.


How about you give something with real substance? Otherwise you're just slinging dirt because you don't have anything else to offer.


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posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 03:45 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

The anti-Trump trolls have got their panties in a bunch over a letter chock full of real facts.
The desperation is palpable in here.




posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 03:47 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Seriously? It's all been meticulously detailed elsewhere.
By the way, I cannot even begin to describe how much you have disappointed me in the past few years. I used to look up you as a good and sensible mod.


Yet with all the 'meticulous documentation' you can't actually name anything.
Hmmm. Can you at least point to some crime he has committed cited in the impeachment report?

You're embarrassing yourself in this thread - so please get specific and make your case... otherwise why are you here?



I am anxiously awaiting the response to this! hah



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 03:50 PM
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originally posted by: StallionDuck

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Seriously? It's all been meticulously detailed elsewhere.
By the way, I cannot even begin to describe how much you have disappointed me in the past few years. I used to look up you as a good and sensible mod.



Instead of showing proof, you attack his integrity? That's pretty low.

I've always and still know Tex for being a person that actually focus on FACTS when he's making his point. Even his opinions are more factual than majority of news outlets in comparison. Funny stuff.


How about you give something with real substance? Otherwise you're just slinging dirt because you don't have anything else to offer.


I think it's quite a sensitive time at the moment for some people in the UK who thought they could stop Brexit - they just lost so badly it's going to hurt for a while. They have to wake up to Boris as their PM every morning and every time they see him they realise their hopes of their 2nd referendum and overturning democracy to suit themselves are dead. I think that is why it's difficult for them to frame any actual argument at the moment, so I am putting the lashing out down to that.

I was hoping for at least some substance on the actual points and opinions raised in the letter from those US citizens that are FOR impeachment, but so far nothing.
edit on 17/12/2019 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 04:00 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

There is nothing to debate, the letter is all true.

And the truth shall set you free.



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 04:03 PM
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Oh no he didddn’t “finger wave with head shake”!

Blah - sensational bs intended to rally the base.

The letter should have said “when this fails and it will the next investigation will be on American citizens who do business in Ukraine and their ties to the Democratic Party and any attempt to investigate my administration or I during this time will be considered obstruction of justice.”

Yours truely,
The president of the United States

Ps your prayers are helping me



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 04:04 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Seriously? It's all been meticulously detailed elsewhere.
By the way, I cannot even begin to describe how much you have disappointed me in the past few years. I used to look up you as a good and sensible mod.


Yet with all the 'meticulous documentation' you can't actually name anything.
Hmmm. Can you at least point to some crime he has committed cited in the impeachment report?

You're embarrassing yourself in this thread - so please get specific and make your case... otherwise why are you here?



And here we have yet another example of the tactics of the more... egregious of the Trumpsters. Ignore all the coverage, all the live testimony on TV, all the barrage of facts, call for a nice neat list (which they will instantly dismiss) of exact legalities.
Try reading this and have a think about it. Or have a look at this.
But let us face facts. Those who truly support the Blessed Donald, for whatever reasons, will never be able to admit that their idol can do anything wrong. Who cares about the US Constitution and any possible crimes?
Which is, to me, ludicrous. Sharpiegate, which nominally harmless, said everything about the wretched man and his inability to admit that he can ever be wrong.
This saddens me. I thought that some people on this website were better than that. The double standards sadden me as well.

edit on 17-12-2019 by AngryCymraeg because: Clarified



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 04:06 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: StallionDuck

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Seriously? It's all been meticulously detailed elsewhere.
By the way, I cannot even begin to describe how much you have disappointed me in the past few years. I used to look up you as a good and sensible mod.



Instead of showing proof, you attack his integrity? That's pretty low.

I've always and still know Tex for being a person that actually focus on FACTS when he's making his point. Even his opinions are more factual than majority of news outlets in comparison. Funny stuff.


How about you give something with real substance? Otherwise you're just slinging dirt because you don't have anything else to offer.


I was hoping for at least some substance on the actual points and opinions raised in the letter from those US citizens that are FOR impeachment, but so far nothing.


No, no you really didn't. You posted the letter, declared it to be game over for Pelosi, or near enough to that, and then you sat back and waited for the reactions.
You would dismiss any and in fact all points from a pro-impeachment standpoint anyway, so what's the point?



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 04:07 PM
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originally posted by: Stormdancer777
a reply to: UKTruth

There is nothing to debate, the letter is all true.

And the truth shall set you free.



I think he has some points.... Specifically, and in my own words, the democrats know this will go nowhere, yet they're stonewalling the government when we have much more important things to do than use tax dollars for their 2020 sound bites.

But the part about his constitutional rights being infringed was too far for me.



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 04:09 PM
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One other point. Can we please start a campaign or petition or something to call to stop putting '-gate' at the end of the name of any kind of scandal? I think that perhaps we can all agree on this one point surely?



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 04:13 PM
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I found the letter lacking. Let me fix it.

    This will be my last comment to you on the matter. In my possession is a written lawful order, written but that at this point remains unsigned: “As per order of the Commander In Chief, no military, federal, state or local law enforcement nor existing proclaimed militia is to interfere, harass, delay nor engage any of the American people that wish to handle the matter directly by forgoing their right to petition and instead enabling their Second Amendment rights and duties to preserve this free nation from the hands of tyranny.”

Take your vote and may matters evolve however the outcome may be. Just know that you stand alone in your decision and everything is within the hands of the We the People for for the final check and balance to a system out of control.




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