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Democrats are Screwed

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posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 12:29 AM
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a reply to: Breakthestreak

I think trump is a dick with some good ideas and has backed up his words
Outside of that
They are not getting a valid political message out about their policies

If they had popular policies, relevant and had justification to back that policy up

Trump has the democrats playing against him, not playing to people and good policy

My opinion




posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 01:21 AM
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ahemmm, wonder if the dems are opening up the DC rental market a little ? You know, bailing the boat...



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 01:27 AM
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a reply to: sine.nomine
JFK was going to break them up. That's why they killed him.



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 02:37 AM
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originally posted by: MRinder
It just occurred to me that Democrats are screwed. They are down to the bottom of the barrel. They are offering everything for free and even willing to forgive student loans. But they still can't even beat a man with bad hair, who is sometimes rude and obnoxious. They have accused him off everything short of murder and I am sure that's just a matter of time. He has been accused of sleeping with prostitutes, having them pee on a Russian bed, bribery, collusion, on and on.

What could they possibly have left? In 2024 are they going to run on Vote for Us our we will have the CIA execute your whole family?


I don’t think you understand they will never live up to their promises so what’s the point in voting for them
edit on 17-12-2019 by Veryolduser because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 04:55 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: sine.nomine

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: MRinder

The vast majority of American citizens, be they left, right or independent, are still just normal people with normal lives and normal dreams.

They have a sense of what is fair and what is not, what is good and what is bad, what is moral and what isn't regardless of their personal political ideology.

So when something happens like what has happened since 2016 with the Democratic party and Trump people will eventually tune in and wonder about things.

Like why the media has reported 95% negative on everything Trump has ever done, but yet the average American is doing better then they have been for decades.

Or why the media and the Democratic party has repeatedly said that Trump will be out of office soon yet there he is.

Like repeating over and OVER and over that he's a liar... yet the Democratic party and the media is caught in lie after lie after lie...

Or the blatant mean-spiritness that seems to be the trademark of the Democratic party now.

They are, for lack of a better word, repellent to normal people.

They are killing themselves.

Which is a good thing for America as a whole.


We are America. We don't scream at the skies. We follow our process, and as slow as it may seem, we will get results. We are the silent majority. We are America.

And... Don't push us.




I have seen some YouTube video and I'm fairly sure the "scream at the skies" person was from America.

I have seen some Hollywood movies with Americans screaming at the skies. Like Charlton Heston, in one of those Planet of the Apes films (He was an outspoken Republican and NRA member).

Can you cite for me examples of people from other countries screaming at the skies?




Those people I'm fairly sure are from Amerikanistan. They don't want your democracy. They want a socialist state in which everyone gets free stuff, you get free stuff, and you get free stuff, and everyone jumps on Oprahs couch like maniacs, not realising that someone, somewhere is paying for it.


edit on 17-12-2019 by gallop because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 06:50 AM
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originally posted by: gallop

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: sine.nomine

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: MRinder

The vast majority of American citizens, be they left, right or independent, are still just normal people with normal lives and normal dreams.

They have a sense of what is fair and what is not, what is good and what is bad, what is moral and what isn't regardless of their personal political ideology.

So when something happens like what has happened since 2016 with the Democratic party and Trump people will eventually tune in and wonder about things.

Like why the media has reported 95% negative on everything Trump has ever done, but yet the average American is doing better then they have been for decades.

Or why the media and the Democratic party has repeatedly said that Trump will be out of office soon yet there he is.

Like repeating over and OVER and over that he's a liar... yet the Democratic party and the media is caught in lie after lie after lie...

Or the blatant mean-spiritness that seems to be the trademark of the Democratic party now.

They are, for lack of a better word, repellent to normal people.

They are killing themselves.

Which is a good thing for America as a whole.


We are America. We don't scream at the skies. We follow our process, and as slow as it may seem, we will get results. We are the silent majority. We are America.

And... Don't push us.




I have seen some YouTube video and I'm fairly sure the "scream at the skies" person was from America.

I have seen some Hollywood movies with Americans screaming at the skies. Like Charlton Heston, in one of those Planet of the Apes films (He was an outspoken Republican and NRA member).

Can you cite for me examples of people from other countries screaming at the skies?




Those people I'm fairly sure are from Amerikanistan. They don't want your democracy. They want a socialist state in which everyone gets free stuff, you get free stuff, and you get free stuff, and everyone jumps on Oprahs couch like maniacs, not realising that someone, somewhere is paying for it.


Is that the limit of your understanding of the political left?



In the case you cited of Oprah, wouldn't she'd be the one paying for the free stuff she gives out? I think that's how it works. Those who have more than they need, give to those who have less than they need.

How about Trump's performance, setting up a charity that people donate to, but instead, Trump used the money for himself.

So, one side gives quite a lot into human need - the other side takes quite a lot from human need. That makes sense, they are opposites.




posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 06:56 AM
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a reply to: chr0naut

The Intercept just did a couple episodes on the CIA torture program.

I believe one of the senators who investigated that case was interviewed by Jeremy Scahill for the episodes.

Anyways, here's a (very) quick summary.

Bush told the CIA not to torture. CIA gets caught torturing so they delete evidence. Senate starts investigating CIA.... CIA then starts spying on the senate. When someone whistle blows the CIA is spying on the senate, the CIA sues the senate.

The CIA, and CIA alone is in charge of their directive, and oversight. Very sad state of affairs when a sole organization with no oversight gets to decide much of our foreign policy, and sometimes even domestic. We're supposed to have checks and balances at all levels.



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 06:59 AM
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originally posted by: mamabeth
a reply to: MRinder

The demonrats have been backed into a corner and will
go for the throat.Nothing they do will ever surprise me
again.


You are right, but we should have learned this lesson long long ago.

When Lincoln was in office Democrats called him "weak, wishy-washy, namby-pamby efforts, imbecile in matter, disgusting in manner, have made us the laughing stock of the whole world" "he is no more capable of becoming a statesman, nay, even a moderate one, than the braying ass can become a noble lion"

Since Dwight Eisenhower was President, the Democrats have tried to impeach every single US President except Gerald Ford, who wasn't President long enough for them to try to impeach. www.snopes.com...

This message needs to be made public, I don't know how it has escaped the US public mind for generations. Democrats will try to impeach every single Republican President, every single time.



edit on 12/17/19 by The2Billies because: format



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 07:14 AM
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a reply to: chr0naut


In the case you cited of Oprah, wouldn't she'd be the one paying for the free stuff she gives out? I think that's how it works. Those who have more than they need, give to those who have less


That is where democrats fail and conservatives succeed. Democrats do not believe in allowing one the free choice to give from their excess. They want to force their giving will upon others. They want to nationalize you giving broadly where most do not ever see the rewards of giving.

Conservatives believe and have faith in their fellow man to do good works. Individuals can choose to give or not. It is the freedom of choice. Many do so willingly through volunteering or giving donations/assistance. Conservatives tend to do more locally. It then expands outwardly across the nation, but they are more likely to appreciate the reward of giving.

Helping others should never be a forced mandate for many often resent and rebel such sacrifices given.



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 08:51 AM
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originally posted by: CynConcepts
a reply to: chr0naut


In the case you cited of Oprah, wouldn't she'd be the one paying for the free stuff she gives out? I think that's how it works. Those who have more than they need, give to those who have less


That is where democrats fail and conservatives succeed. Democrats do not believe in allowing one the free choice to give from their excess. They want to force their giving will upon others. They want to nationalize you giving broadly where most do not ever see the rewards of giving.

Conservatives believe and have faith in their fellow man to do good works. Individuals can choose to give or not. It is the freedom of choice. Many do so willingly through volunteering or giving donations/assistance. Conservatives tend to do more locally. It then expands outwardly across the nation, but they are more likely to appreciate the reward of giving.

Helping others should never be a forced mandate for many often resent and rebel such sacrifices given.


Why?

It does distribute resources more fairly, if enforced.

Dickensian London was the height of capitalism in a class limited society and was the genesis of communist philosophies. The poor died in filth. Children worked long hours in factories for less than sustenance pay and the rich wasted their means on fads and fashions regardless of the dire needs of their workers.



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: chr0naut

Why does fairness have to be a thing to strive for? Life isn't fair, never has been, and I suspect long after I'm gone it still won't be.



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 11:22 AM
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originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: chr0naut

I'm fairly sure the CIA is under the Executive Branch, so that would have to be an edict from the President.


It's so cute that you think any President has any control over the CIA now.

They haven't even been audited since the mid 1970's.



Concur. There's no controlling the CIA as it exists today.

The JFK scenario works for me...

NO - not THAT Scenario!
This 'alleged' Quote from JFK...

"I will splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the winds."


ganjoa



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: Hypntick
a reply to: chr0naut

Why does fairness have to be a thing to strive for? Life isn't fair, never has been, and I suspect long after I'm gone it still won't be.


No, but I have survival instinct. I am safer in community than in isolation. As I am also gregarious, being in community also suits me emotionally.

Those two factors give impetus to a drive to seek for fairness.

I (and you) also have innate sense of right and wrong and we strive to be treated fairly by others, and understand the reciprocal of how we should treat others.

Consider if you trip over someone by accident in a crowded moving train, although you my be hurt, you would not ascribe wrongness to the person over whom you tripped. If, however, the person intended to trip you, even if you are unhurt, you would feel wronged. In that way, our moral nature is innate. We know right from wrong and fairness from unfairness.

So, for these reasons, even if fate is ambivalent towards us, we seek to make things fair to the best of our ability. It is human and rational to do so.



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 12:41 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
I have seen some Hollywood movies with Americans screaming at the skies. Like Charlton Heston, in one of those Planet of the Apes films (He was an outspoken Republican and NRA member).

At least in the movie he had a good reason for screaming at the skies...



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 02:24 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

Lol if you think Oprah gives money away to her audience, think again.

I need stuff, how much you going to give me?

I thought people who worked hard for what they have, didn't appreciate people asking for free stuff from them.

Mind you, with all the billionaires in the world, we should all have enough, right?

Like a free book on the power of attraction, or something.



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 02:35 PM
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Trumps letter to Pelosi clearly and devastatingly sums up the Democrat Party.

www.scribd.com...



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 06:14 PM
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originally posted by: gallop
a reply to: chr0naut

Lol if you think Oprah gives money away to her audience, think again.

I need stuff, how much you going to give me?

I thought people who worked hard for what they have, didn't appreciate people asking for free stuff from them.

Mind you, with all the billionaires in the world, we should all have enough, right?

Like a free book on the power of attraction, or something.


Wishful thinking won't make things happen. Nor is greed anything but greed. I don't have any expectation that the world should just gift me everything. I'm happy to work until I retire in a year or so.

I have no particular excess of worldly goods, but I do try to have little debt.

Nor would I have the means to deliver any personal wealth to the US, but I do try to give a 10th of what I earn to those in need around me. Sometimes I lash out and give beyond what I think I can afford. It is amazing how God gives back.



posted on Dec, 18 2019 @ 02:42 AM
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a reply to: chr0naut

God? He left me long ago. He's given me nothing but a lifetime of misery.

OR... I caused it myself, if you don't believe in god, that is... just like how you are given things back.. either god is a malevolent and evil being who tortures innocent souls while giving others things to spite them, or he doesn't exist and life just sucks...

YMMV.



posted on Dec, 18 2019 @ 04:20 PM
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originally posted by: gallop
a reply to: chr0naut

God? He left me long ago. He's given me nothing but a lifetime of misery.

OR... I caused it myself, if you don't believe in god, that is... just like how you are given things back.. either god is a malevolent and evil being who tortures innocent souls while giving others things to spite them, or he doesn't exist and life just sucks...

YMMV.


In my conception of God, you wouldn't exist if God abandoned you. He keeps you in being and in mind moment by moment.

God is gentle. If God wanted you to have no choice and for you to always do the right thing, you'd absolutely have no choice. To allow choice you have to allow for all outcomes. That means hands off as the world goes to custard before you.

Sometimes you have to take a leap of faith to be surprised by the outcome.

edit on 18/12/2019 by chr0naut because: Sorry, a bit off topic. PM if you want.



posted on Dec, 21 2019 @ 07:27 PM
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Dont underestimate their power...look at what Biden said about getting a prosecutor fired.
And its not brought up
Obama is untouchable
Nothing can stick on Clinton.

They have left overs in lots of different sectors




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