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Progressive liberals have a new insult for conservatives: snakes and vermin

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posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 07:29 PM
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Awesome




posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 07:57 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: The2Billies


In The New York Times Opinion Section

"Trump will be a formidable candidate next year because he is prepared to look under the rocks of the American belief system and see the snakes and vermin that have camped there in the dark," writes Thomas Edsall.



My god the horror, someone has an opinion and not only that but it's not even insulting conservatives. This is a classic victim mentality, at this point your searching for reasons to be angry with your perceived enemies.


The progressive/liberal/Democrats are not my enemy.

They are rage and hate filled toward people simply and only because of their politics, who they voted for and who they plan to vote for.

The horror is that the Democratic leadership has encouraged calling actual voters, middle americans, the most wretched things possible. They have made it clear, quite clear their hate and loathing for average middle Americans in flyover country.

That is the horror how much the progressive/liberal/Democrats hate and loathe 63+ million US citizens and voters. Worst of all the name calling and hate mongering toward aveage citizens began with Obama and Hillary and is being continued by Democratic Congresspeople. They have sadly made it quite clear how very much they hate and loathe flyover middle average US citizens. It is sad and pathetic.

But you go ahead and support this non-stop barrage of hate toward voters. That is your right of free speech. Hate speech is part of the freedom of speech unfortunately. It is unfortunate that is the way the Democratic Party leadership chooses to treat millions upon millions of US citizens.



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 08:09 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp

Both sides sound like broken records... when will this end.


Sometime after 2014 when Trump ends his second terms.



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 08:13 PM
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a reply to: The2Billies

I am amazed that you are surprised that your elected leaders look down on the people, you do understand the concept in the Stamford prison experiment don't you.

It's a natural human trait to look down on those in a lower social standing, Similar to pack animals.

If you ever open your eyes to it ,you will see this is not partisan issue.



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 11:05 PM
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a reply to: underwerks

funny then how the right keeps winning really important elections around the world like the UK,Brazil,USA,Italy,India,Japan,Pakistan is getting there,rising in Belgium ,Cyprus,Hungary,rising in germany,Greece has two serious right win parties,Poland and others mostly over immigrant influx and people not being onboard with either socialism or climate change goals

www.bbc.com...

theweek.com...

In many European countries, like Italy and Greece, the rise of the populist right is blamed on the tyranny of the euro, and the brutal austerity which the ECB demanded in the wake of the financial crisis. But Germany benefited from the ECB's policies, and Britain was never part of the euro. Meanwhile, notwithstanding their economic troubles, some countries with right-wing populist governments, like Israel and India, have been experiencing fairly robust real growth. Finally, while Putin is frequently blamed for the rise of the populist right in Europe and America, it is hard to credit any Russian interest in the fate of Brazil or plausible Russian involvement in the consolidation of power by Tayyip Erdogan in Turkey.
and lol they of course blame russia which has a whopping gdp of Italy

www.newstatesman.com...


The populist upheavals in the West are a response to political failure of historic proportions, but its most conspicuous casualties have been liberal and centre-left parties.
and

The populist uprising in the US, Britain, and Europe is a backlash against elites of the mainstream parties, but its most conspicuous casualties have been liberal and centre-left political parties – the Democratic Party in the US; the Labour Party in Britain; the Social Democratic Party in Germany, whose share of the vote reached a historic low in the last federal election; Italy’s Democratic Party, whose vote share dropped this year to less than 20 per cent; and the Socialist Party in France, whose presidential nominee won only 6 per cent of the vote in the first round of last year’s election.


meanwhile what is the lefts response? freaking out about the OK symbol and other bs "hate symbols" ,constantly demeaning and yelling at the other sides voters and alienating independent voters

www.stuff.co.nz...

OPINION: It's been a rough year for the Left around the Western World. Bill Shorten lost what appeared to be an unloseable election in Australia after running a campaign based on shifting the tax system. Bernie Sanders trails the centrist Joe Biden in most national polls for the Democratic primaries and is behind Pete Buttigieg​, a McKinsey nerd with no real policy beliefs, in some Iowa polls. And as I write, the UK Tories could be on their way to their biggest majority since Margaret Thatcher was leader, with a man who won't confirm how many children he has looking set to be prime minister for another half-decade at least.


fivethirtyeight.com... throw in the semi un united dem base in usa who can only agree on disliking trump and his supporters

I argued in a piece published earlier this week that the “Super Progressive” bloc of the Democratic Party was largely losing its fights with the party’s Progressive Old Guard wing. Big ideas pushed by more liberal Democrats like Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez — such as the Green New Deal, the impeachment of President Trump and single-payer health care — just aren’t getting much traction right now in the House, which Democrats control. In particular, it seems like the most progressive wing of Democrats is not as influential under Democratic control of the House as the Freedom Caucus — the bloc of the most conservative House Republicans — was when the GOP controlled the chamber. So why are the Super Progressives struggling? I don’t think that there is one simple explanation. But here are a few theories, based on my own thinking and that of some congressional experts. The Democrats’ base is more moderate than the GOP’s The number of Democratic voters who identify as liberal has been increasing for some time, but the party is still about equally split between people who call themselves “liberal” and people who call themselves “moderate” or “conservative.” In the GOP, by contrast, people who say they’re “conservative” outnumber liberals and moderates. And you can see this difference in how elected officials behave. Polls suggest that more aggressively liberal positions (like impeachment) garner a fair amount of opposition1 among Democratic voters. This makes it easier for House Democratic leaders like Speaker Nancy Pelosi to sideline those ideas.



www.opendemocracy.net... far left source but brings up things the OP talked about

Nothing alienates middle-income working people more than the usual reason progressives and liberals give for why they are losing elections or failing to gain more support for their programs: namely, that US citizens are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, or just plain dumb. Most of us may not know the details of the programs put forward by political movements or parties, by we know when we are being demeaned, and that is precisely what gives the right the ability to describe the left as “elitist,” thereby obscuring the way right-wing politics serves the real elites of wealth and power.
mostly anti capitalism screed as they seem to forget a good deal of people vote with the results of their pocket books

www.wsj.com... behind paywall but

Even before President Trump’s election, hatred had begun to emerge on the American left—counterintuitively, as an assertion of guilelessness and moral superiority. At the Women’s March in Washington the weekend after Mr. Trump’s inauguration, the pop star Madonna said, “I have thought an awful lot of blowing up the White House.”


www.latimes.com...

Instead, some Democrats are wringing their hands about their presidential candidate field, encouraging new candidates to jump in. Former President Obama has warned Democrats that they risk losing it all in 2020 if they tack too far to the left, while progressives fear Trump will win if Democrats nominate a “safe” but uninspiring centrist. Throughout the party, people are still spooked by Trump’s upset victory in 2016 and don’t want to take anything for granted. “People are terrified, and we don’t want to mess up again,” said Jane Kleeb, chairman of the Nebraska Democratic Party. “We have learned our lesson. So you see people in all the states knocking on doors, and not high-fiving each other.”
and its looking increasingly more likely of a brokered Dem convention in 2020

www.ft.com... this link says put a muzzle on hillary lol

www.realclearpolitics.com... too far left=bad according to this link



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 11:07 PM
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a reply to: dashen

All Hail Supreme Vermin , may he Reign Forever !



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 11:58 PM
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Another day. Another embarrassing laughably hypocritical pro-right wing thread. Welcome to ATS in the Trump years.



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 05:39 AM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: strongfp

Both sides sound like broken records... when will this end.


Sometime after 2014 when Trump ends his second terms.


Sadly, I don't think so.

The left has convinced themselves that deplorable, snakes and vermin abound in flyover middle America and it has convinced them of the need to "cancel" middle American votes by eliminating the electoral college. Because the left is convinced are smarter than everyone else and know best how people should think and run their lives.

This has been going on ever since Obama, well before Trump, was on the scene he called conservatives people who cling to their guns and bibles. Trump is not the problem here. Hate for everyday, average middle American middle/lower class tax paying voters is the problem. Hate and loathing for people who aren't enamored of the left agenda and don't want it is the issue.


edit on 12/17/19 by The2Billies because: grammar



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 05:55 AM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: The2Billies

I am amazed that you are surprised that your elected leaders look down on the people, you do understand the concept in the Stamford prison experiment don't you.

It's a natural human trait to look down on those in a lower social standing, Similar to pack animals.

If you ever open your eyes to it ,you will see this is not partisan issue.


If it is not a partisan issue, why has no one answered these questions?

Obama and Hillary both called VOTERS, middle American, flyover, average US citizens, the most wretched things. Which Republican President since this began with Obama, or Presidential Candidate has called VOTERS and citizens wretched things? Please name the things they called voters and make it clear they were calling voters they don't know anything about, except are liberal, and lumped them as a group of citizens and called them wretched and insulting names.

The Democratic Party "Squad" and other Democratic Congresspeople have called VOTERS, middle American flyover average US citizens who voted for Trump the most wretched things. Which Republican Congressperson since this began with Obama, has called VOTERS and citizens in general the equivalent of racist/sexist/homophobic/Islamophobic/bible clinger/gun toter/deplorable?

If both sides are equally guilty why is there not at least one assault per month of someone wearing a Hillary/Biden/Warren/etc. hat by a perfect stranger? Where are the verbal/physical assaults on people wearing Democratic election slogans? Which child wearing a Democratic hat has been hospitalized after being beaten for wearing it? (at least 2 children I can think of off the top of my head were beaten and hospitalized for wearing a MAGA hat, a middle schooler and a teen)

Find the equivalent to the above and it must be as pervasive on the right as it is on the left. Then I'll believe both sides are at fault.



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 06:01 AM
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originally posted by: okrian
Another day. Another embarrassing laughably hypocritical pro-right wing thread. Welcome to ATS in the Trump years.


So you approve of your President, Presidential Candidate, Congresspeople calling middle American working class VOTERS the most nasty names they can think of?

Great. Keep it up. Do you realize this behavior - the Democratic LEADERSHIP encouraging this by setting the example has permanently alienated 63 million voters?

Well, if you like to joke about it and find it fun behavior. Realize you are endorsing bullying of the people who grow your food and make your life possible with their labor, by the leaders of the Democratic National Party.

So sad, not one Democrat can see this, that it is one thing for politicians to call each other names, this has been going on since Andrew Jackson was President and he was called a bigamist and worse. The Democrats called a Republican President in the distant past "weak, wishy-washy, namby-pamby efforts, imbecile in matter, disgusting in manner, have made us the laughing stock of the whole world", President Lincoln was called this and worse by other politicians. This is fairly normal behavior for politicians to call each other names.

It is quite another for politicians to call VOTERS, and worse yet, the middle American voter nasty names. What a way to win votes and influence people.

I challenge you to answer the questions in my post directly above this if you think it is all a joke.

What would you do if a bully who didn't know you, called you the most awful names in public
then the bully ran for class President
and said everyone who doesn't vote for me is a _________
then his minions went around beating up people who had a button on for his opponents
Would you vote for that person even if you wanted the free candy day and no finals he was promising everyone?

Do you find it hilarious every time someone with a conservative message on their hat or t-shirt is verbally assaulted, had their food spit in, was beaten by a total stranger? Just normal everyday acceptable, tit for tat, political behavior in the USA? Or is is only funny and acceptable because the people who are assaulted are all conservatives? Because I haven't seen this happen to a liberal yet, the way it happens to conservative, one single person with a hat or t-shirt minding their own business, beaten by one single person, not a group, not organized behavior, out of the blue, one on one, at least one time per month. So hilarious, so acceptable, so normal = REALLY

Who is the hypocrite for finding this acceptable and hilarious behavior? The party who claims to be the party of love and peace, who claims to be the champion of the downtrodden and the "little people"? Nope, give me a break.




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posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 06:34 AM
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Obama and Hillary both called VOTERS, middle American, flyover, average US citizens, the most wretched things. Which Republican President since this began with Obama, or Presidential Candidate has called VOTERS and citizens wretched things?


Perhaps your personal investment into this shamocracy has made you twisted and bitter....



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 06:44 AM
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originally posted by: okrian
Another day. Another embarrassing laughably hypocritical pro-right wing thread. Welcome to ATS in the Trump years.




Think Darth Vader breathing and voice...

You will cease to belittle our master, hes more powerful than you will ever know, join us or perish you worthless child, we will rule this planet and you will suffer in our glory.


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posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 07:06 AM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: The2Billies




Obama and Hillary both called VOTERS, middle American, flyover, average US citizens, the most wretched things. Which Republican President since this began with Obama, or Presidential Candidate has called VOTERS and citizens wretched things?


Perhaps your personal investment into this shamocracy has made you twisted and bitter....


So the answer is no then. You can't prove the Democrats aren't hypocrites by saying the assaults on average everyday Americans minding their own business who wear a conservative political message is also done on regular basis by conservatives to liberals. You can't prove that Republican politicians are name calling average everyday flyover middle American voters the most vile and nasty names they can think of because they cast a vote for a Democrat.

Since you answer with an insult instead of answering the challenges that prove my point, in my previous posts. I assume you can't.

Sorry I embarrassed you so much you resort to the fallback typical liberal thing, insult and bully more to prove you aren't a party of bullies. Interesting. Very Interesting indeed.


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posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 07:14 AM
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My oh my you are full of hypocrisy. You are only embarrassing yourself if you think that's what's going on here.

Democrats, republicans are peas in a pod as in summed up in this simple meme...

To win you save what you love you don't destroy what you hate .



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 07:25 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Yeah, it's normal to vote for the candidate who regularly insults you and your way of life. Keep telling yourself that.



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 07:25 AM
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Ok, you think they are the same.

Once again you answer with insults. Sigh.

Try looking at this: www.youtube.com...

Then tell me they are the same. But you can't.

Since all you will do is insult again. I'll ignore your next one because you won't open your eyes to what the Democratic Party leadership is encouraging by bullying and tacitly approving of the bullying, by ignoring the assaults on average voters, US citizens:
the people who feed the nation
the people who are the servant/service class
the people who work hard for a living
which are the bulk of people who voted for Trump

If the parties are the same, one last chance.
Prove Republican Presidents and Congresspeople are calling people who voted for Obama or Hillary vicious names.
Prove average everyday ordinary liberals are being assaulted at least monthly by singular rabid Republicans who are "triggered" by their liberal message on their hat or t-shirt, or a hat of support of any Democrat.

If you can't prove the above, YOU are the hypocrite for claiming the two sides are the same. They clearly are not. One openly despises the flyover average American voter who voted for the "other" party. The other does not.

But, you'll just reply with another cartoon and insult because you refuse to see the truth. (my last post to you because it is hopeless and you'll just insult one more time) at least make it more creative rather than the same old tripe that is repeated over and over.


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posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 07:32 AM
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This was written about the UK Labour Party after its defeat, but much of it is relevant to American democrats as well.


But, to achieve any of that, Labour must stop treating the traditional working-class as though they were some kind of embarrassing elderly relative. It must learn to respect those who, for example, voted for Brexit, oppose large-scale immigration, want to see a tough and effective justice system, feel proud to be British, support the reassertion of the role of the family at the centre of society, prefer a welfare system to be based around reciprocity – something for something – rather than universal entitlement, believe in the nation state, and do not obsess about multiculturalism or trans rights.


Most of this would be the middle class, blue collar worker here in the US.



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 07:40 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Yeah, it's normal to vote for the candidate who regularly insults you and your way of life. Keep telling yourself that.




Yet you vote for the most egotistical meglomaniac ever to brace the halls of the whitehouse, your messiah has insulted pretty much everyone, including all of your allies and then to top it off has praised a couple of hardcore dictators.

Unreal, the ruling class love people like doing their bidding for them.
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posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 07:44 AM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Yeah, it's normal to vote for the candidate who regularly insults you and your way of life. Keep telling yourself that.




Yet you vote for the most egotistical meglomaniac ever to brace the halls of the whitehouse, your messiah has insulted pretty much everyone, including all of your allies and then to top it off has praised a couple of hardcore dictators.

Unreal, the ruling class love people like doing their bidding for them.


Eventually, you have to fight fire with fire, but he didn't call me a deplorable like she did.

He also wasn't my first choice during primary season, but he was what I had to work with.



posted on Dec, 17 2019 @ 07:45 AM
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An insult is when I say to you you're an idiot.

The truth is our choices are illusions, I can see you buy into it and there's nothing I can do to change that. There's no need or reason for you to take offence to me having a differing opinion . It is what it is.



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