Stealing Souls?

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posted on Mar, 8 2005 @ 03:20 PM
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I have a question about the possession of ones soul.

You hear through stories about how people can sell there soul to the devil. So it seems to me that even though your soul is in the spiritual realm it is almost like a physical entity as well.

Is it possible that someone can steal your soul just as a burglar can break into your house and steal your T.V. ?

Could an entity come into your life and steal your soul?

I am worried that this could possible be source of alien abduction stories as well.

Please give me some input into this subject if you have any beliefs in the matter.




posted on Mar, 8 2005 @ 03:27 PM
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I do not belive that any devil steals anyone's soul! This is a Christian belief and not even all them believe this...



posted on Mar, 8 2005 @ 03:31 PM
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Your soul is YOU...
what they mean by stealing your soul, or selling your soul to the devil is that you give over your thoughts for someone elses... question peoples motives... everyones... even your own .. Your ego is the biggest enemy you have, who says that body of flesh is yours? ... just because you move it around doesn't mean it's yours just like a rental car.... think about that for a moment.. do you think you'll change if you had a different body?... would you want to? .. these are serious questions to consider... the fact is you should NEVER change, you should always stay the same.. always question motives, always investigate, always help......always be ....



posted on Mar, 8 2005 @ 03:33 PM
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It's definitely not just a Christian belief LadyV.

One needs only look at Voodoo...

The concept of a zombie is very old indeed, probably originating in Africa long before any of the modern religions.

That being said, witch doctors use the belief of their victims to effect the transformation. They can't hurt you if you don't believe they can. It really is that simple.

Oh..and watch out for Shang Tsung...



posted on Mar, 8 2005 @ 03:34 PM
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I am not talking about the devil only, I am asking about soul possession in general.

I heard a long time ago that one of the theories about alien abduction were linked to soul harvesting and also zombification (sp?) was the stealing of ones soul and making a person become the walking dead.

I am not saying I believe the above mentioned just things I have heard.

I will search the web for links and post later.



posted on Mar, 8 2005 @ 03:39 PM
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Organized Bible based religions are, for the most part, also silent on the UFO phenomenon, either through fear of facing the reality, refusal to recognize it or church mandated social isolation. This is an enigma in itself considering the fame of Ezekiel's wheels, the chariots of the Gods, (the verse, not the book, well maybe the book too), and other evidence of flying vehicles in biblical text. When mainstream religion does deal with the anomaly, there are two doctrinal views concerning the presence of UFOs, the holograph theory and the evil alien conspiracy. One approach states that the UFOs are holographic illusions projected by Satan to lure the congregation away from the church and into alien worship, eventually enslaving mankind. The other, more radical view surmises that the beings piloting the UFOs are actually fallen angels with Satan in the mother ship. They are lurking on the dark side of the moon or some other evil hideaway, occasionally visiting our atmosphere to abduct and implant a few of their human followers, slaughter some cows, scrawl satanic graffiti in our barley fields or run circles around our jets. Either way, UFOs are evil and UFO believers are either dupes or disciples of Satan. Contrary to the doomsday bellowing of the satanic UFO prophets, this widespread cover-up itself could easily be classified as a Great Deception, while evil soul-stealing aliens piloting UFOs are not mentioned in scripture. Certainly the cover-up is safe here, in total confusion and ignorant bliss.



"http://www.bibleufo.com/coveruplogic.htm"

This is the first link I came across.

[edit on 8-3-2005 by bpletcj]



posted on Mar, 8 2005 @ 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by WyrdeOne
It's definitely not just a Christian belief LadyV.



Depends on if one defines the "devil" as "Satan" or not....as Satan is a Christian deity....



posted on Mar, 8 2005 @ 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by bpletcj
I am not talking about the devil only, I am asking about soul possession in general.

I heard a long time ago that one of the theories about alien abduction were linked to soul harvesting and also zombification (sp?) was the stealing of ones soul and making a person become the walking dead.

I am not saying I believe the above mentioned just things I have heard.

I will search the web for links and post later.



If you'd read my post you'd see your soul CAN'T be Stolen, or Taken ...
It is you ... YOU are your soul .. .its when you follow someone else that they've stolen your soul..... do you understand what I'm trying to convey? ..
... its like kidnapping you with an idea... like say I know you like diamonds and I'm trying to stop you from getting home.. so I spill diamonds all over the ground... and boom you see diamonds and you pick them up because you have this idea diamonds are special... now the diamonds have stolen your soul, because they took you away with an idea... the same could go for trying to get home, thats just another idea that's stealing your soul... who said thats your house? it's just an idea, and someone got an idea to make it official by writting a bunch of official looking documents to "prove" it's your home.. right? .. see where I'm going...

[edit on 8/3/05 by dnero6911]



posted on Mar, 8 2005 @ 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by dnero6911

Originally posted by bpletcj
I am not talking about the devil only, I am asking about soul possession in general.

I heard a long time ago that one of the theories about alien abduction were linked to soul harvesting and also zombification (sp?) was the stealing of ones soul and making a person become the walking dead.

I am not saying I believe the above mentioned just things I have heard.

I will search the web for links and post later.



If you'd read my post you'd see your soul CAN'T be Stolen, or Taken ...
It is you ... YOU are your soul .. .its when you follow someone else that they've stolen your soul..... do you understand what I'm trying to convey? ..
... its like kidnapping you with an idea... like say I know you like diamonds and I'm trying to stop you from getting home.. so I spill diamonds all over the ground... and boom you see diamonds and you pick them up because you have this idea diamonds are special... now the diamonds have stolen your soul, because they took you away with an idea... the same could go for trying to get home, thats just another idea that's stealing your soul... who said thats your house? it's just an idea, and someone got an idea to make it official by writting a bunch of official looking documents.. right? .. see where I'm going...


I meant no disrespect, I did read your post.

I guess where I am confused a little is that our soul is not even our own, that it belongs to Our Heavenly Father ( God ), so in essence it is a posses-able entity separate from our physical form.

What I am trying to get at is I am talking about our soul, not our mind.



posted on Mar, 8 2005 @ 03:50 PM
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Lady V

I guess I never thought about it that way.



posted on Mar, 8 2005 @ 03:58 PM
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... Ummm, perhaps thats the misconception ... Your soul IS yours... the life in your soul is GODs.... think of it this way ...

GOD powers SOUL
and
SOUL powers MIND
and
MIND powers BODY
and
BODY encompasses ALL

GOD is the driving force... without him we are nothing.



posted on Mar, 8 2005 @ 04:03 PM
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I agree with most of what you say. I guess it is all relative with individual perception.

Maybe thats part of Gods gift of free will. How we interpret our very existence.



posted on Mar, 8 2005 @ 04:20 PM
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perhaps that is the way it's meant to be...
perhaps we have to be seperately inline... or in agreeance yet, seperately..



posted on Mar, 8 2005 @ 04:40 PM
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?? So does that mean we agree ?


Thanks for your input, it was definitely enlightening.



posted on Mar, 8 2005 @ 04:58 PM
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I'm not going to stick a gun to your head to MAKE you believe what I say .. lol .. if it made sense it made sense... if not it might later, if not later ... oh well... I'll still be me..


I just didn't want what I said misinterpreted...



posted on Mar, 8 2005 @ 05:36 PM
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I understand pretty much what you said, no misunderstanding here.

Thanks.



posted on Mar, 8 2005 @ 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by bpletcj
So it seems to me that even though your soul is in the spiritual realm it is almost like a physical entity as well.

Well, er, based on fairy tales, sure. But then you could just have your fairy godmother change a gourd into a super drilling machine, and then drill down into hell and kick the debils ass to git yer soul back.


Is it possible that someone can steal your soul just as a burglar can break into your house and steal your T.V. ?

Of course not.


Could an entity come into your life and steal your soul?

How would that work?


I am worried that this could possible be source of alien abduction stories as well.

If your 'soul' can be stolen with no effect, then why worry about it?
Have you been abducted?



posted on Mar, 8 2005 @ 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by Nygdan

Originally posted by bpletcj
So it seems to me that even though your soul is in the spiritual realm it is almost like a physical entity as well.




Well, er, based on fairy tales, sure. But then you could just have your fairy godmother change a gourd into a super drilling machine, and then drill down into hell and kick the debils ass to git yer soul back.


Were did that come from?


Is it possible that someone can steal your soul just as a burglar can break into your house and steal your T.V. ?


Of course not.


How do you know?


Could an entity come into your life and steal your soul?


How would that work?


Thats why I posed the question.


I am worried that this could possible be source of alien abduction stories as well.


If your 'soul' can be stolen with no effect, then why worry about it?
Have you been abducted?


How do you know there is no effect? I am not saying aliens are abducting people and stealing souls but if the do, I am sure there would be some effect other wise why would God give us a soul to begin with?

Why would aliens harvest the soul?

Also people who claim to be abducted most times suffer from many emotional and psychological problems before they even recall they were abducted. Maybe a side affect of losing there soul, feeling lost, miserable etc. etc.

Besides it was a hypothetical question, I don't recall saying anything about fairy godmothers or fairy tales.

Just exploring some spiritual questions and ramifications of not being aware.



posted on Mar, 8 2005 @ 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by bpletcj
I have a question about the possession of ones soul.

You hear through stories about how people can sell there soul to the devil. So it seems to me that even though your soul is in the spiritual realm it is almost like a physical entity as well.

Is it possible that someone can steal your soul just as a burglar can break into your house and steal your T.V. ?

Could an entity come into your life and steal your soul?










I am worried that this could possible be source of alien abduction stories as well.

Please give me some input into this subject if you have any beliefs in the matter.



It is Your soul and You only can determine Where Your Soul will be after the Body Dies
That is the gift of free will that has been given to You, So You Chose..




[edit on 02/20/2005 by jfdarby]





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