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Virginia Gov. Threatening to use NG to Enforce Gun Control

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posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 08:25 AM
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originally posted by: Arnie123
Of course, the radical lefts progressive agenda, already they infect our schools.

This little snippet is of importance and a great metric as to what Trump kay do if such a drastic step is "Taken".



In 1954, Arkansas Gov. Orval Faubus directed the National Guard to “preserve the public peace” by turning away black students during the court-mandated integration of Little Rock’s Central High School. President Dwight Eisenhower reversed that decision by federalizing the state’s entire guard, ordering it to protect the students.


It's essentially political chess, if the State Gov goes this route, the POTUS can respond by Nationalizing the whole guard and invert their orders.

Historically, the Guard protects the rights of citizens as per their constitutional rights, never to surpress, but that's what the Democrat leadership is increasingly leaning towards, hmmm???


Let's hope this is what happens. Unconstitutionality & anti-freedom maneuvers by states have backfired before. A few years back, Iowa voted to ban gay marriage and it was overturned to become one of the first gay marriage states.

If this works out VA will have the National Guard at their service to defend their 2A rights.




posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 08:29 AM
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I just realized something.

There are no leftists on this thread saying, "Calm down Snowflake, they aren't coming for your guns" because. . . . well. . . . . they want to come after our guns.




posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 09:15 AM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

Sorry to hear that. PWC is a lot closer to the swamp that I am so I’m not surprised.



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 10:48 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

What can they say? It's just another instance of them being wrong. The only thing left is to either admit to being wrong or double down on obvious tyranny.



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 11:14 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

The governor's order to the state adjutant general is unlawful.



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 02:22 PM
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Up to 90 counties now.

Virginia has a total of 95.

A clear rejection of Virginia's snip hat.



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 02:24 PM
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a reply to: ChefFox
A governor only gets one term in Virginia. That's why they will try it now; they have both legislative houses.



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 04:10 PM
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Good afternoon all,

I thought this would be a good place to reply because of the relation. I currently live in Prince William County in Virginia about 25 miles outside of Washington DC. This situation is extremely important to us because we are the only Purple County (red and blue mixture) that is truly fighting for our 2A rights. We have voted last week to become a Sanctuary County for the 2nd Amendment but on January 7th when the new legislation takes office, they plan to negate what our current legislation has done. What is even more troublesome than Governor Northam's threat, is Virginia House Delegate and self proclaimed socialist Lee J Carter (Manassas City) is proposing Virginia House Bill 67 on January 8th (URL Below). From what I understand from the bill, is that due to the 2A Sanctuary Counties the bill propose those in the public safety and law enforcement should be removed from office immediately if state law is not followed. I invite any and all of you to become par of our cause because the liberal/socialist wildfire is spreading and will soon be everyone's problem. We have a Facebook group called "Prince William County 2A" if you are interested in following our fight. Thank you and God Bless.

lis.virginia.gov...



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 04:55 PM
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a reply to: Akkadian

There comes a time in chess, where a decisive move has to be made. There can only be so much maneuvering and staging of pieces before the true game begins.

I think we might be seeing how the left thinks here. They think we'll complain on-line and write angry letters, but in the end, we will comply.

And we (the collective "we") might just fold and cave in. Hard to say and to gauge what people will do when the rubber hits the road.

Or we might just fight back. Risk our jobs, our financial securities, our livelihoods for this very important principle. Hell, some may even risk their lives.

We're coming to that point, nonetheless.


I wish you good luck, god speed, and you have my support.



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 05:17 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

It is the right time to try this kind of crap. Everyone is so focused on impeachment games that no one is watching the potential drama in Virginia. Other times and it might be a story.



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 05:31 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: DBCowboy

It is the right time to try this kind of crap. Everyone is so focused on impeachment games that no one is watching the potential drama in Virginia. Other times and it might be a story.



Well, it's not like the media will focus on it.
edit on 16-12-2019 by DBCowboy because: Network dude has great beer



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 05:36 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

They will if those pesky "right wing militias" (citizens) resist.



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 05:53 PM
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I'm no legal expert, but doesn't it seem like the constitution would trump any state laws regardless, i know if the laws aren't covered in the constitution then it's supposedly up to individual states or cities or counties, but the right to bear arms shall not be infringed is definitely covered. I mean the D governor they elected in MI couldn't even hold onto her e-cig ban for more than a week before it got overturned.



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 06:05 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy




There comes a time in chess, where a decisive move has to be made. There can only be so much maneuvering and staging of pieces before the true game begins




That's not right, the first moves set up the direction the game is going. Its one of the first things you learn in chess club.



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 06:07 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: DBCowboy




There comes a time in chess, where a decisive move has to be made. There can only be so much maneuvering and staging of pieces before the true game begins




That's not right, the first moves set up the direction the game is going. Its one of the first things you learn in chess club.


The first rule of chess club is to not talk about chess club.



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 06:13 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Ok the second rule then.

I've played chess my whole life, I was pretty even with my brother till he went to chess club and then he kicked my ass time after time, I was forced to learn more and lo and behold the first 10 or so moves are critical to winning, bar mistakes made the game is decided in the opening moves.



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 07:34 PM
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originally posted by: 99problems
I'm no legal expert, but doesn't it seem like the constitution would trump any state laws regardless, i know if the laws aren't covered in the constitution then it's supposedly up to individual states or cities or counties, but the right to bear arms shall not be infringed is definitely covered. I mean the D governor they elected in MI couldn't even hold onto her e-cig ban for more than a week before it got overturned.


The 14th amendment doubles down on the second.

No state shall make or enforce any law that abridges.

Abridges-Infringe.



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 07:45 PM
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a reply to: Akkadian



the bill propose those in the public safety and law enforcement should be removed from office immediately if state law is not followed.

If that happens and the whole county is fired in solidarity who is going to do those jobs, people that live in the county are assigned or elected to do those jobs, is the state going to fire 90 percent of all county officials. That sounds like something that would have to go to the supreme court, they would get sued and challenged. Virginia has some really red counties.
This is going to get messy.



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 10:05 PM
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originally posted by: 99problems
I'm no legal expert, but doesn't it seem like the constitution would trump any state laws regardless, i know if the laws aren't covered in the constitution then it's supposedly up to individual states or cities or counties, but the right to bear arms shall not be infringed is definitely covered. I mean the D governor they elected in MI couldn't even hold onto her e-cig ban for more than a week before it got overturned.


I am sure it would not withstand legal challenge, but how much mischief can happen while the legal process grinds out?

That's the problem.



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 11:02 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

People even here on this site says the Democrats won’t take the guns. They know who they are.



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