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Virginia Gov. Threatening to use NG to Enforce Gun Control

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posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 06:07 PM
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a reply to: carsforkids

And they will be facing some hunters who can shoot the left testicle off a gnat at 500 yards with a 308.





posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 06:20 PM
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Virginia democrats are making sure that no one ever votes for that party again.

The police-state arrogance just blows my mind.



posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 06:22 PM
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I believe the first Revolution went hot over an attempted firearms confiscation by the state.



posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 06:29 PM
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Aren't most state militia members usually NG's and retired military, and some retired police? I know that is the case here in MI, so if it is in most states, I don't see this ending well for the governor of VA.

Anyone know when his term is up? Can't see him being voted in again, after just threatening something like this. Will be interesting to keep on eye on.



posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 06:41 PM
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originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
What's sad is the fact that the politicians saying all this stuff won't be the ones on the front lines of this supposed war, it'll be you and whoever else you deem an enemy. They'll be sitting fat and happy in their luxury condo laughing at your gullibility in starting a war for them.


Not likely. What you suggest would require an unrealistic amount of loyalty to said Governor on the part of the National Guard.

And then after that, the President has the power to step in and countermand any order from the governor..


To be fair thats exactly what happened during Katrina, the local law enforcement and National Guard, went house to house confiscating weapons, and people never got them back.

So to say this COULDNT happen is a bit of a stretch, it already has.


The way you're presenting it is a bit of a stretch. Most of the people evacuated were riding in government vehicles, where firearms weren't allowed. Most of the guns confiscated were either illegally possessed or found in abandoned homes. The weapons confiscated from legal owners were also returned after. Though it required court order.

And this was a major natural disaster resulting in anarchy. I'm not saying it was right, but given those circumstances, they at the time believed this to be the best course of action, despite it being illegal. Where as this guy is planning on taking guns for no reason at all. Its an apples to oranges comparison.

Both are Democrats though, so I'll give you that.
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posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 06:42 PM
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a reply to: getmaga





the thing is, if patriots have to mobilize, that is where we head first, straight to those corrupted politicians. If the law don't get them, We the people will.


Once you get them; then what?



posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 07:11 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: getmaga





the thing is, if patriots have to mobilize, that is where we head first, straight to those corrupted politicians. If the law don't get them, We the people will.


Once you get them; then what?



Elect better ones.

You know, like the Founders set it up.

The entire reason the 2nd Amendment is right after the 1st.




The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Thomas Jefferson





posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 07:18 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

Throw them in the stocks for a while give them some time to think about what they want to do with their futures. Maybe think about a career change.




posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 07:40 PM
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originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
What's sad is the fact that the politicians saying all this stuff won't be the ones on the front lines of this supposed war, it'll be you and whoever else you deem an enemy. They'll be sitting fat and happy in their luxury condo laughing at your gullibility in starting a war for them.


Not likely. What you suggest would require an unrealistic amount of loyalty to said Governor on the part of the National Guard.

And then after that, the President has the power to step in and countermand any order from the governor..


To be fair thats exactly what happened during Katrina, the local law enforcement and National Guard, went house to house confiscating weapons, and people never got them back.

So to say this COULDNT happen is a bit of a stretch, it already has.


The way you're presenting it is a bit of a stretch. Most of the people evacuated were riding in government vehicles, where firearms weren't allowed. Most of the guns confiscated were either illegally possessed or found in abandoned homes. The weapons confiscated from legal owners were also returned after. Though it required court order.

And this was a major natural disaster resulting in anarchy. I'm not saying it was right, but given those circumstances, they at the time believed this to be the best course of action, despite it being illegal. Where as this guy is planning on taking guns for no reason at all. Its an apples to oranges comparison.

Both are Democrats though, so I'll give you that.


I posted it like that because my brother in law and sister had the guard come to her door w a policeman and take their shotgun. 30-06, AR and revolver, all legally owned and no they never got them back, even after pursuing the local department for years after.....

No offense but you can "read" whatever version you like, it doesn't Trump facts

Everyone in their neighborhood that was still there had the same thing happen to them.

On top of that you can read accounts where these weren't fluke occurances, it was by design
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posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 07:42 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Fun fact: Washington DC is only 106 miles from Richmond, VA straight up I-95. The Blues Brothers were 106 miles from Chicago. Coincidence, I think not.



posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 08:01 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Not a smart move.

Militia don't stand a chance agianst the us military but fighting the ng?
My bet would be on the milita.



posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 08:02 PM
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a reply to: Ahabstar

"We've got a pack of smokes, half a tank of gas, it's night and we're wearing sunglasses."




posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 08:12 PM
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a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck

Although the word Gall does derive from the Gauls, it's spelled slightly differently.

About the OP:
Is this even real? I cannot believe the Dems want to cause all this violence and chaos.

I guess Civil War 2.0 is inevitable...



posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 08:14 PM
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a reply to: muzzleflash

Next strategy to derail Trump's presidecy. Start a Civil War.



posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 08:15 PM
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People who start articless woth “yes,” or “no,” should be tarred and feathered. Overly condescending and arrogant tone which thankfully warns me the article is not worth reading.

Oh yeah, soldiers turning up to take guns off people. Im sure that will end well.



posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 08:18 PM
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originally posted by: RalagaNarHallas
a reply to: projectvxn

they would do well to remember how the battle of Athens went

www.constitution.org... this was Eleanor Roosevelt take on the matter


McMinn A Warning — By Eleanor Roosevelt New York, Monday — After any war, the use of force throughout the world is almost taken for granted. Men involved in the war have been trained to use force, and they have discovered that, when you want something, you can take it. The return to peacetime methods governed by law and persuasion is usually difficult. We in the U.S.A., who have long boasted that, in our political life, freedom in the use of the secret ballot made it possible for us to register the will of the people without the use of force, have had a rude awakening as we read of conditions in McMinn County, Tennessee, which brought about the use of force in the recent primary. If a political machine does not allow the people free expression, then freedom-loving people lose their faith in the machinery under which their government functions. In this particular case, a group of young veterans organized to oust the local machine and elect their own slate in the primary. We may deplore the use of force but we must also recognize the lesson which this incident points for us all. When the majority of the people know what they want, they will obtain it. Any local, state or national government, or any political machine, in order to live, must give the people assurance that they can express their will freely and that their votes will be counted. The most powerful machine cannot exist without the support of the people. Political bosses and political machinery can be good, but the minute they cease to express the will of the people, their days are numbered. This is a lesson which wise political leaders learn young, and you can be pretty sure that, when a boss stays in power, he gives the majority of the people what they think they want. If he is bad and indulges in practices which are dishonest, or if he acts for his own interests alone, the people are unwilling to condone these practices. When the people decide that conditions in their town, county, state or country must change, they will change them. If the leadership has been wise, they will be able to do it peacefully through a secret ballot which is honestly counted, but if the leader has become inflated and too sure of his own importance, he may bring about the kind of action which was taken in Tennessee. If we want to continue to be a mature people who, at home and abroad, settle our difficulties peacefully and not through the use of force, then we will take to heart this lesson and we will jealously guard our rights. What goes on before an election, the threats or persuasion by political leaders, may be bad but it cannot prevent the people from really registering their will if they wish to. The decisive action which has just occurred in our midst is a warning, and one which we cannot afford to overlook.
so they had the support of the first lady when they did what they did and another snippit from the time line that shows exactly how despicable the police acted in this incident they took hostages and threatened their lives ,good thing the GI's won

Sheriff Pat Mansfield and Deputies Threaten Hostages 11:00 pm Sheriff Pan Mansfield and deputies threatened to kill three GI hostages held within the jailhouse. The three GI hostages are Felix Harrod, Tom Dooley and Walter Ellis. Thousands of Rounds Exchanged 11:35 pm-12:40 am Thousands of rounds of shots were exchanged between ex-GIs and an estimated 75 deputies barricaded in the McMinn County jail. No state guardsman had arrived at 12:40. Former soldiers were pouring lead into every opening in the brick jail. The officers' returning fire was weakening. Some GIs were firing from ground level across White Street. Others were on roofs on the Power Company Building and other near-by structures. Tennessee State Guard Mobilized? 12:00 am (midnight) State Adj.-Gen. Hilton Butler announced that he was mobilizing the Sixth Regiment of the State Guard in connection with election violence in McMinn County. This report was later proven untrue. GIs Cut Telephone Lines To The Jail 1:00 am GIs cut telephone lines to the jail. The officers, inside the jail, were out of ammunition or running extremely low. Firing of the GIs included rapid bursts of 10 or more shots. Apparently they were using some automatic rifles. Last Warning! Deputies Threaten Hostages' Lives 2:00 am Deputies sent out last warning that they would kill three GI hostages within the jail immediately if the firing did not end. GIs Replied With Ultimatum Of Their Own 2:20 am GIs issued an ultimatum to the deputies to come out with hands upraised or the crowd would rush the jail. GIs Escalate The Fight With Use of Dynamite 2:59 am The ex-GIs went into action with demolition charges — home made, but effective. After a fourth blast had rocked the jail one of the deputies leaned from the building and shouted "Stop that blasting. We'll give up — we're dying in here. Firing continued a few moments then stopped. The Deputies Surrendered
keep in mind these were ww2 combat vets with the keys to the armory and they vastly out gunned the cops possessing tommy guns vs the cops rifles and hand guns and later the GI's used dynamite in their siege of the jail,of note no GI was charged and one even won the fair election and the national guard refused to deploy at least in this case vs ww2 veterans despite the governors pleas

www.constitution.org... general info on the "battle"


Thank you for bringing up that piece of history from my home state. People love to think that the military will obey orders to move against their own people, families, and friends, and this is a great example of how that couldn't be further from the truth.

As some have mentioned previously the national guard consists of people who live in the area, work in the area, and have loved ones in the area, and are staunch defenders of the 2nd amendment.

Only a fool would think that the military and local militias would side with politicians who are bold enough to move against The People.



posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 09:05 PM
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originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: getmaga





the thing is, if patriots have to mobilize, that is where we head first, straight to those corrupted politicians. If the law don't get them, We the people will.


Once you get them; then what?



Elect better ones.

You know, like the Founders set it up.

The entire reason the 2nd Amendment is right after the 1st.




The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Thomas Jefferson






Good luck with that.



posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 09:09 PM
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a reply to: Wardaddy454

Some good videos on that topic.

They disarmed neighborhoods and they were defenseless against armed looters.




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posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 09:22 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: getmaga





the thing is, if patriots have to mobilize, that is where we head first, straight to those corrupted politicians. If the law don't get them, We the people will.


Once you get them; then what?



Elect better ones.

You know, like the Founders set it up.

The entire reason the 2nd Amendment is right after the 1st.




The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Thomas Jefferson






Good luck with that.


We've done it twice already as a country.

Good luck with your ideology if it gets forced on us again.




posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 09:33 PM
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Not that this doesn't need to be watched but there are lots of orders governors can issue but the likelihood is nil on this and most of the others. Honestly, it feels like people playing on people's emotion and fears, this isn't gonna happen LOL and if it does we likely got a whole mess of other stuff to worry about




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