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so they had the support of the first lady when they did what they did and another snippit from the time line that shows exactly how despicable the police acted in this incident they took hostages and threatened their lives ,good thing the GI's won
McMinn A Warning — By Eleanor Roosevelt New York, Monday — After any war, the use of force throughout the world is almost taken for granted. Men involved in the war have been trained to use force, and they have discovered that, when you want something, you can take it. The return to peacetime methods governed by law and persuasion is usually difficult. We in the U.S.A., who have long boasted that, in our political life, freedom in the use of the secret ballot made it possible for us to register the will of the people without the use of force, have had a rude awakening as we read of conditions in McMinn County, Tennessee, which brought about the use of force in the recent primary. If a political machine does not allow the people free expression, then freedom-loving people lose their faith in the machinery under which their government functions. In this particular case, a group of young veterans organized to oust the local machine and elect their own slate in the primary. We may deplore the use of force but we must also recognize the lesson which this incident points for us all. When the majority of the people know what they want, they will obtain it. Any local, state or national government, or any political machine, in order to live, must give the people assurance that they can express their will freely and that their votes will be counted. The most powerful machine cannot exist without the support of the people. Political bosses and political machinery can be good, but the minute they cease to express the will of the people, their days are numbered. This is a lesson which wise political leaders learn young, and you can be pretty sure that, when a boss stays in power, he gives the majority of the people what they think they want. If he is bad and indulges in practices which are dishonest, or if he acts for his own interests alone, the people are unwilling to condone these practices. When the people decide that conditions in their town, county, state or country must change, they will change them. If the leadership has been wise, they will be able to do it peacefully through a secret ballot which is honestly counted, but if the leader has become inflated and too sure of his own importance, he may bring about the kind of action which was taken in Tennessee. If we want to continue to be a mature people who, at home and abroad, settle our difficulties peacefully and not through the use of force, then we will take to heart this lesson and we will jealously guard our rights. What goes on before an election, the threats or persuasion by political leaders, may be bad but it cannot prevent the people from really registering their will if they wish to. The decisive action which has just occurred in our midst is a warning, and one which we cannot afford to overlook.
keep in mind these were ww2 combat vets with the keys to the armory and they vastly out gunned the cops possessing tommy guns vs the cops rifles and hand guns and later the GI's used dynamite in their siege of the jail,of note no GI was charged and one even won the fair election and the national guard refused to deploy at least in this case vs ww2 veterans despite the governors pleas
Sheriff Pat Mansfield and Deputies Threaten Hostages 11:00 pm Sheriff Pan Mansfield and deputies threatened to kill three GI hostages held within the jailhouse. The three GI hostages are Felix Harrod, Tom Dooley and Walter Ellis. Thousands of Rounds Exchanged 11:35 pm-12:40 am Thousands of rounds of shots were exchanged between ex-GIs and an estimated 75 deputies barricaded in the McMinn County jail. No state guardsman had arrived at 12:40. Former soldiers were pouring lead into every opening in the brick jail. The officers' returning fire was weakening. Some GIs were firing from ground level across White Street. Others were on roofs on the Power Company Building and other near-by structures. Tennessee State Guard Mobilized? 12:00 am (midnight) State Adj.-Gen. Hilton Butler announced that he was mobilizing the Sixth Regiment of the State Guard in connection with election violence in McMinn County. This report was later proven untrue. GIs Cut Telephone Lines To The Jail 1:00 am GIs cut telephone lines to the jail. The officers, inside the jail, were out of ammunition or running extremely low. Firing of the GIs included rapid bursts of 10 or more shots. Apparently they were using some automatic rifles. Last Warning! Deputies Threaten Hostages' Lives 2:00 am Deputies sent out last warning that they would kill three GI hostages within the jail immediately if the firing did not end. GIs Replied With Ultimatum Of Their Own 2:20 am GIs issued an ultimatum to the deputies to come out with hands upraised or the crowd would rush the jail. GIs Escalate The Fight With Use of Dynamite 2:59 am The ex-GIs went into action with demolition charges — home made, but effective. After a fourth blast had rocked the jail one of the deputies leaned from the building and shouted "Stop that blasting. We'll give up — we're dying in here. Firing continued a few moments then stopped. The Deputies Surrendered
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
What's sad is the fact that the politicians saying all this stuff won't be the ones on the front lines of this supposed war, it'll be you and whoever else you deem an enemy. They'll be sitting fat and happy in their luxury condo laughing at your gullibility in starting a war for them.
Not likely. What you suggest would require an unrealistic amount of loyalty to said Governor on the part of the National Guard.
And then after that, the President has the power to step in and countermand any order from the governor..
so severe in fact that Democrats are the main topic of discussion in 9 out of 10 front page threads daily.
Now go back to being angry and emotional. It's what you guys are best at.
Amy Swearer, a legal policy analyst who works on gun control issues, agreed that the governor has the right to use the Virginia National Guard to enforce the law, though it would break from past mobilizations.
“When you look at the historical reality of when governors or presidents have mobilized the National Guard, it has been to enforce the rights of citizens when they were being infringed upon,” Swearer told the Washington Examiner.
“But to suggest the National Guard would be brought in to otherwise peaceful jurisdictions to enforce restrictions on constitutional rights, that would be completely unprecedented in terms of how the National Guard has been used when it’s mobilized to restore law and order.”
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
and it seems sadly for pro gun Virginians it payed off for them
But few outsiders have made as big an impact as Bloomberg, the former Republican mayor who has become a crusader for gun control and climate. Everytown for Gun Safety, founded by Bloomberg, has given more than $2.5 million to help Democrats get elected. That has included $770,000 in digital advertising, nearly half a million in direct mail, $250,000 for polling and more than $300,000 in TV ads for candidates in suburban districts in Hampton Roads, Richmond and Northern Virginia.
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: SailorJerry
So let me get this straight. If you complain about Democrats every day of your life, it's a-ok, bur as soon as a commission about Trump, I have a mental disease.
Nice logic you got going there.
Sherrifs can deputize the citizenry then they are exempt from the gun laws (as are most police from most forms of gun control besides federal class 3 regulations)
Culpeper County Sheriff Scott Jenkins praised the Board of Supervisors for passing a Second Amendment sanctuary provision. "I remain very optimistic that our General Assembly will not pass the proposed bills. Obviously, if passed, there are many of us willing to challenge these laws through the courts. In addition, if necessary, I plan to properly screen and deputize thousands of our law-abiding citizens to protect their constitutional right to own firearms," Jenkins added. In deep-blue Fairfax County, which is just outside of Washington, D.C., the Board of Supervisors has made it clear it has no intention of declaring the county as a sanctuary. The Fairfax County Sheriff’s Office forwarded a statement from Chairman Sharon Bulova to Townhall.
now this would be an extreme measure by the reps as it sure would be a shame if all the police decided to get the "blue flu" all at once and decide to just park the cruisers and not patrol for any crimes due to lack of funds , i mean it sure would be a shame if criminals knew they had a carte blanche for 24-48 hours knowing police will not be responding to anything ,some may even think a tour of the governors mansion would be in order..... wonder how big the governors security detail is.......
Democratic Virginia Rep. Donald McEachin suggested cutting off state funds to counties that do not comply with any gun control measures that pass in Richmond. “They certainly risk funding, because if the sheriff's department is not going to enforce the law, they're going to lose money. The counties' attorneys offices are not going to have the money to prosecute because their prosecutions are going to go down,” he said. McEachin also noted that Democratic Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam could call the National Guard, if necessary.
so did not see Sheriffs there so lets hope the governor decides to listen to the people of Virginia as im sure he does not want to preside over the first possible show down between the Nat Guard and disgruntled Sheriffs with the backing of what seems like a good deal of the citizenry
Section 17. Impeachment The Governor, Lieutenant Governor, Attorney General, judges, members of the State Corporation Commission, and all officers appointed by the Governor or elected by the General Assembly, offending against the Commonwealth by malfeasance in office, corruption, neglect of duty, or other high crime or misdemeanor may be impeached by the House of Delegates and prosecuted before the Senate, which shall have the sole power to try impeachments. When sitting for that purpose, the senators shall be on oath or affirmation, and no person shall be convicted without the concurrence of two-thirds of the senators present. Judgment in case of impeachment shall not extend further than removal from office and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust, or profit under the Commonwealth; but the person convicted shall nevertheless be subject to indictment, trial, judgment, and punishment according to law. The Senate may sit during the recess of the General Assembly for the trial of impeachments.