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posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 11:43 AM
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originally posted by: Bloodworth

originally posted by: XCrycek
So several hundred protesters represent the whole left? Following that logic, Unite the right rally in Charlottesville represented tho whole right wing.
I wish these kind of bs yellow journalism trash headline threads would vanish.


The left consists of antifa, BLM, LGBTQ, illegal aliens, muslims, hollyweird..

You think normal people will align with those groups.

The left have been shooting themselves in the foot and everywhere i go like ats for example its been eveyone turning to common sense conservatism.

The Democrats have gone far to left


In other words - - the Left is the "Catch All Bucket" of everything you don't agree with.




posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 11:43 AM
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originally posted by: Bloodworth

originally posted by: XCrycek
So several hundred protesters represent the whole left? Following that logic, Unite the right rally in Charlottesville represented tho whole right wing.
I wish these kind of bs yellow journalism trash headline threads would vanish.


The left consists of antifa, BLM, LGBTQ, illegal aliens, muslims, hollyweird..

You think normal people will align with those groups.

The left have been shooting themselves in the foot and everywhere i go like ats for example its been eveyone turning to common sense conservatism.

The Democrats have gone far to left


In other words - - the Left is the "Catch All Bucket" of everything you don't agree with.



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 11:46 AM
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a reply to: Annee

Seems most, if not all of those listed would tell you themselves that they are on the left.

Maybe if you don't like that, you could try denouncing the things they do and say?



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 11:49 AM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
These people have no idea how a government works, and they don't care. They don't care where the revenue comes from, they just want everything for their selfish selves. Just gimme, gimme, gimme! They have no plan, they have no money, no jobs, they're just a bunch of vagrants who want everything. All they want is complete anarchy, no rules, no borders, everything free...and they just can't comprehend why this doesn't work. It's idiotic! But it's real! (almost unbelievably so).

Freedom comes at a price, and this is it.


Many of the big EU countries are pushing 13% of their population as immigrants. For UK that is about 8 million people with 300k net grow per year. That is a lot of people with other ideals as to what a government should be like, and the main immigration numbers are from countries with very different cultures than EU and that just increases the issues at hand. Out of those 8 million it doesn't take much of a percentage to form huge protests....
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posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 12:03 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: SprocketUK
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Those people aren't really the left.
They are the globalist, fake left.
They despise the real left, the Union members, the socialists, those who work exclusively to raise the working classes.
They sneer and belittle anyone who's regional accent hasn't been smoothed away by university and a job in the city.

They are intrinsically self centred and care nothing for the general good.
That's why they protest, they were the little kids you saw throwing themselves on the floor of the toy shops when mummy wouldn't buy them a bloody power ranger and they've failed to grow out of it.

I always find it amusing that the “ real left” deny their spawn protesters.


i always find it amusing that the "real right" are such experts on who the left is.
Would you like to enlighten me on why these protesters are not the “real left”, and do you consider yourself an expert on it?



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 12:05 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Bloodworth

originally posted by: XCrycek
So several hundred protesters represent the whole left? Following that logic, Unite the right rally in Charlottesville represented tho whole right wing.
I wish these kind of bs yellow journalism trash headline threads would vanish.


The left consists of antifa, BLM, LGBTQ, illegal aliens, muslims, hollyweird..

You think normal people will align with those groups.

The left have been shooting themselves in the foot and everywhere i go like ats for example its been eveyone turning to common sense conservatism.

The Democrats have gone far to left


In other words - - the Left is the "Catch All Bucket" of everything you don't agree with.
Antifa are supposedly against anything fascist ... so by their own definition of fascism being on the right, they must be left . Don’t you think? Or maybe fascism isn’t really right.
So let us look at what people on “ the left” usually support. Almost always they support sone kind of socialist or communist ideology. They support war when it suits them and they are against war when the fighting is against communist factions or Iran. As in, the anti war protests of the Viet nam era. They are generally into big government and using the state to enforce their agendas regardless of whatever that happens to be whenever they want it. Occasionally they are anarcho ... but only because it gets them something they want.
Any other ideas ?
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posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 12:05 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

In other words - - the Left is the "Catch All Bucket" of everything you don't agree with.


I would say it is a catch all for fringe ideals and cultures. I actually don't care what they do, but they seem to be the ones to actively push their fringe ideals as the only correct ones around. I guess what frustrates me the most is they talk a lot creating the "bad guy" to pay for everything, but if it cost their own personal time and or money they they are like ah hell no, case in point homeless friendly cities... It is also unacceptable to just identify someone as trans... I need to understand and use the 26 types...lol or a gender like "Two-Spirit"...really?



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 12:13 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee

In other words - - the Left is the "Catch All Bucket" of everything you don't agree with.


I would say it is a catch all for fringe ideals and cultures. I actually don't care what they do, but they seem to be the ones to actively push their fringe ideals as the only correct ones around. I guess what frustrates me the most is they talk a lot creating the "bad guy" to pay for everything, but if it cost their own personal time and or money they they are like ah hell no, case in point homeless friendly cities... It is also unacceptable to just identify someone as trans... I need to understand and use the 26 types...lol or a gender like "Two-Spirit"...really?
Yes a good exemple is Taylor Swift suddenly being upset that George Soros is sighing his claws into
Her fortune.
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posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 12:17 PM
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originally posted by: Gothmog
If one is anti-globalist in no way can they be a leader of a nation


That makes no sense. The very idea of Globalism is to erase all borders so that there are no nations. Only one leader ruling the world in the end. Nations have always been run by leaders that didn't want the Globalists in their affairs and Trump is one of them. He seems to be running the country just fine. In fact, better than most Presidents that we've had so far. Just imagine what he could have accomplished without all those Liberals attacking him every day, in every way.



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 12:30 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee

In other words - - the Left is the "Catch All Bucket" of everything you don't agree with.


I would say it is a catch all for fringe ideals and cultures. I actually don't care what they do, but they seem to be the ones to actively push their fringe ideals as the only correct ones around. I guess what frustrates me the most is they talk a lot creating the "bad guy" to pay for everything, but if it cost their own personal time and or money they they are like ah hell no, case in point homeless friendly cities... It is also unacceptable to just identify someone as trans... I need to understand and use the 26 types...lol or a gender like "Two-Spirit"...really?


What is the fringe? What creates the fringe?

I was raised in an all white Christian environment - - everything not in my world was "the Fringe".

Why did LGBTQ+ need to create their own culture? Because they were forced to - - by "acceptable" society.

I'm 73 - - so very aware of the fight for women's rights/equality. Only 45 years ago were women allowed to have their own credit. Many banks required single, divorced or widowed women to bring a man along with them to cosign for a credit card, and some discounted the wages of women by as much as 50 percent when calculating their credit card limits.

The "Fringe" is created by unacceptance. It is not shoved on you.

Now, if you want to talk about Extremism - - that covers ALL idiologies.



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 12:42 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee

In other words - - the Left is the "Catch All Bucket" of everything you don't agree with.


I would say it is a catch all for fringe ideals and cultures. I actually don't care what they do, but they seem to be the ones to actively push their fringe ideals as the only correct ones around. I guess what frustrates me the most is they talk a lot creating the "bad guy" to pay for everything, but if it cost their own personal time and or money they they are like ah hell no, case in point homeless friendly cities... It is also unacceptable to just identify someone as trans... I need to understand and use the 26 types...lol or a gender like "Two-Spirit"...really?


What is the fringe? What creates the fringe?

I was raised in an all white Christian environment - - everything not in my world was "the Fringe".

Why did LGBTQ+ need to create their own culture? Because they were forced to - - by "acceptable" society.

I'm 73 - - so very aware of the fight for women's rights/equality. Only 45 years ago were women allowed to have their own credit. Many banks required single, divorced or widowed women to bring a man along with them to cosign for a credit card, and some discounted the wages of women by as much as 50 percent when calculating their credit card limits.

The "Fringe" is created by unacceptance. It is not shoved on you.

Now, if you want to talk about Extremism - - that covers ALL idiologies.

That is only one aspect of the left... one of many agendas they have to push the norms aside and create chaos. Yuri Besmenov said it best ... it is all to destroy the culture and the family and create instability so that they can push ( communism globalism the NWO ). Communism meant to destroy the culture of the bourgeois family, and replace with their collectivist ideals. We see this now in pushing the redefinition of the family. It is just a tool. Why is it ok for the State to make taxpayers pay for a transgender operation ? Where is that in our Constitution ?
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posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 12:52 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

What is the fringe? What creates the fringe?

I was raised in an all white Christian environment - - everything not in my world was "the Fringe".

Why did LGBTQ+ need to create their own culture? Because they were forced to - - by "acceptable" society.

I'm 73 - - so very aware of the fight for women's rights/equality. Only 45 years ago were women allowed to have their own credit. Many banks required single, divorced or widowed women to bring a man along with them to cosign for a credit card, and some discounted the wages of women by as much as 50 percent when calculating their credit card limits.

The "Fringe" is created by unacceptance. It is not shoved on you.

Now, if you want to talk about Extremism - - that covers ALL idiologies.



Well first...I'm not young either...the whole women could not have their own credit was due to never having it in the first place being mainly one income families and reaching a point in their lives where they finally needed it. The examples you listed are towards stay at home moms who never established credit, it was not some "hold women down" thing. Women that started work/professional careers at a young age had zero problems in establishing good credit.

The LGBTQ+ ABC.... community has had a culture for a very long time too, openly established pretty deep back in the 80s. Everyone has nonacceptance, including yourself. I can have a lifestyle you do not like and so that is find, but the day I tell you you need to accept my lifestyle is where I'm wrong.



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 12:54 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee

In other words - - the Left is the "Catch All Bucket" of everything you don't agree with.


I would say it is a catch all for fringe ideals and cultures. I actually don't care what they do, but they seem to be the ones to actively push their fringe ideals as the only correct ones around. I guess what frustrates me the most is they talk a lot creating the "bad guy" to pay for everything, but if it cost their own personal time and or money they they are like ah hell no, case in point homeless friendly cities... It is also unacceptable to just identify someone as trans... I need to understand and use the 26 types...lol or a gender like "Two-Spirit"...really?


What is the fringe? What creates the fringe?

I was raised in an all white Christian environment - - everything not in my world was "the Fringe".

Why did LGBTQ+ need to create their own culture? Because they were forced to - - by "acceptable" society.

I'm 73 - - so very aware of the fight for women's rights/equality. Only 45 years ago were women allowed to have their own credit. Many banks required single, divorced or widowed women to bring a man along with them to cosign for a credit card, and some discounted the wages of women by as much as 50 percent when calculating their credit card limits.

The "Fringe" is created by unacceptance. It is not shoved on you.

Now, if you want to talk about Extremism - - that covers ALL idiologies.

That is only one aspect of the left... one of many agendas they have to push the norms aside and create chaos. Yuri Besmenov said it best ... it is all to destroy the culture and the family and create instabilityso that they can push ( communism globalism the NWO )


Who's culture?

Who's culture is being destroyed? Yours? How very "me" of you.

Personally, I think the "single family unit" - - is destructive to society. If, instead, we lived in family groups - - we wouldn't have latch key kids.

Also, in family groups - - you have to learn to get along with others - - of various ages and personalites. You have to share. You're not gonna have a kid off alone in a bedroom with his own TV.



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 12:54 PM
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I see many on here talking how the left shoots itself in the foot. Why is this, so you think? I’m sure most on here think it’s just because leftists are so stupid. And yet you think the media and schools are all run by them in lockstep.

The fact of the matter is we don’t have an organized left in this country. We have the right, the Republican Party, strongly supported by the wealthy elite, who actually own all the media, and all the mechanisms of control. Then we have the Democratic Party, which is the safety measures enacted by those same wealthy elite to ensure there is never a real representative left. Their goal is to be the mouthpiece for the right, which is supposed to appeal to the leftists, and subvert them into the fold of supporting the wealthy elites goals. And to destroy any real leftists who crop up.

So you basically have two corporatist parties, and a whole system set up as a barrier to entry to any real left. This is why you have so many fringe groups with the behaviors you talk about. The results are an unfettered victory in the class war by the wealthy elite with no real opposition. Trump is fully supportive of this, in actions, if not consciously, in his deregulations and destruction of consumer protections, and his intentional destruction of all those things that 200 years of government set up to support the working class against the monolithic and united power of wealth.

Stable society is created by the back and forth of power between the oligarchs and the working class. This hasn’t existed now for 40-50 years. Too far on either side leads to revolution and civil war. This does appear to be what we are approaching, and it’s due to the overwhelming power of wealth, with no real resistance from the working class. And you are all absolutely on one side of this, though I expect the majority of you are supporting the very side that opposes you.

And that’s American society today, and reflects much of the world as well. A bunch of uncle toms ushering in the unfettered power and control of the very people holding our leash. There does need to be a move back to balance, as the alternative will be pretty catastrophic. I expect that as living conditions, wages, stability continue to deteriorate, many will find they have more in common with antifa than with the oligarchs. Antifa May riot and cause some minor destruction in their demands for a more equitable society and an end to authoritarian abuse and immunity, but that’s nothing compared to the oligarchs, who happily destroy nations and kill millions in their pursuit of ever larger profits.



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 01:13 PM
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originally posted by: pexx421

The fact of the matter is we don’t have an organized left in this country. We have the right, the Republican Party, strongly supported by the wealthy elite, who actually own all the media, and all the mechanisms of control.


Exactly!

Basically, its the Right (as you describe) - - and then Everyone Else.

Everyone Else - - is a hodgepodge "Catch All Bucket" - - probably even some moderate Republicans.



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 03:06 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Bloodworth

originally posted by: XCrycek
So several hundred protesters represent the whole left? Following that logic, Unite the right rally in Charlottesville represented tho whole right wing.
I wish these kind of bs yellow journalism trash headline threads would vanish.


The left consists of antifa, BLM, LGBTQ, illegal aliens, muslims, hollyweird..

You think normal people will align with those groups.

The left have been shooting themselves in the foot and everywhere i go like ats for example its been eveyone turning to common sense conservatism.

The Democrats have gone far to left


In other words - - the Left is the "Catch All Bucket" of everything you don't agree with.


Dont know about that...just saying who the major democratic voters are.

When i and other saw them gather in droves for the midterms...it was an ugly site



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 04:44 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: SprocketUK
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Those people aren't really the left.
They are the globalist, fake left.
They despise the real left, the Union members, the socialists, those who work exclusively to raise the working classes.
They sneer and belittle anyone who's regional accent hasn't been smoothed away by university and a job in the city.

They are intrinsically self centred and care nothing for the general good.
That's why they protest, they were the little kids you saw throwing themselves on the floor of the toy shops when mummy wouldn't buy them a bloody power ranger and they've failed to grow out of it.

I always find it amusing that the “ real left” deny their spawn protesters.


i always find it amusing that the "real right" are such experts on who the left is.
Would you like to enlighten me on why these protesters are not the “real left”, and do you consider yourself an expert on it?


The real Left hasn't been tried yet.




posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 06:33 PM
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originally posted by: Bloodworth

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Bloodworth

originally posted by: XCrycek
So several hundred protesters represent the whole left? Following that logic, Unite the right rally in Charlottesville represented tho whole right wing.
I wish these kind of bs yellow journalism trash headline threads would vanish.


The left consists of antifa, BLM, LGBTQ, illegal aliens, muslims, hollyweird..

You think normal people will align with those groups.

The left have been shooting themselves in the foot and everywhere i go like ats for example its been eveyone turning to common sense conservatism.

The Democrats have gone far to left


In other words - - the Left is the "Catch All Bucket" of everything you don't agree with.


Dont know about that...just saying who the major democratic voters are.

When i and other saw them gather in droves for the midterms...it was an ugly site


From someone on the "Right" - - the Left is everything they don't agree with.

The "Right" continues to tell the Left who they are and what they think.

They are, of course, blanketing.



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 06:36 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Same people funded by the same billionaires. They haven't realize that it doesn't work and will only backfire like it did with Trump.



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 06:56 PM
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originally posted by: Bloodworth

originally posted by: XCrycek
So several hundred protesters represent the whole left? Following that logic, Unite the right rally in Charlottesville represented tho whole right wing.
I wish these kind of bs yellow journalism trash headline threads would vanish.


The left consists of antifa, BLM, LGBTQ, illegal aliens, muslims, hollyweird..

You think normal people will align with those groups.

The left have been shooting themselves in the foot and everywhere i go like ats for example its been eveyone turning to common sense conservatism.

The Democrats have gone far to left


It's not even conservatism, it's just that most people are not authoritarian Marxists. And will not support their egotistical temper tantrums because they didn't get their way in 2016.




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