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Retail sales this season seem down

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posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 06:44 PM
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This is totally unscientific but just my humble observation. We won't know until after the holidays.

Either holiday spending is way, way down. Or people are ordering everything online.

The two places that I use as my litmus test are Target and Costco.

I went to both places today. Both places were filled to the brim with junk and both places had half or less the shopper traffic I recall in all previous years. Maybe people have too much junk already. Maybe people aren't doing as well as it is being portrayed. Who know.
I know this, in all previous years, both those place would be practically cleaned out by now. I barely had to wait at Costco, which almost never happens. Targets holiday section looked so full as if it was still November. I also noticed that the price point on certain things at Target seemed lower than recent years.




posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 06:47 PM
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a reply to: JAGStorm

Online sales have gone way up, but its still possible that aggregate sales are down. Its definitely not getting any more affordable to live in my area.



posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 06:53 PM
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There's a strange feeling in the air. And it's not about Christmas. Something else....even little kids seem weird.


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posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 06:56 PM
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a reply to: JAGStorm

The cost of living is taking it's toll, lucky though we can still eat cake.



posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 06:56 PM
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Nah, your right.

Have you heard anything about the Black Friday or Cyber Monday sales? It's been dismal across the board and people are hoping that Christmas will bail out retailers but that isn't looking to good either.

The economy is grinding to halt but as long as that stock market goes higher, its all good.



posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 06:59 PM
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a reply to: JAGStorm

I usually spend every Christmas season running around like a chicken with my head cut off and yanking out my own feathers trying to get Christmas shopping done and everything shipped out in time to arrive for Christmas. This year I decided I had had enough. The grandkids gifts got ordered online and shipped directly to them and the kids all got VISA gift cards so they can get what the heck they want themselves rather than driving myself crazy over it. Even ordered the hubs gifts online as he did mine- delivered to the front door without crowds and craziness. I'm not even sorry!



posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 07:00 PM
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Working at the Wall of Marts, we did a massive amount of business starting with the week of Black Friday and it's been steady ever since. We also do Ship to Store online sales for the WM website and that's been insanely busy as well. I'm expecting a huge crash after December though since the oilfield is dead here in Alberta and unemployment is up as well as cost of living.



posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 07:31 PM
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a reply to: GeauxHomeYoureDrunk

My family is cutting back also. The kids are older, we are reducing the junk that last less than a week and ends up in a landfill.

We are opting out of excessive spending this year.



posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 07:33 PM
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My family is intentionally spending a mere fraction of what we might have in past years. We all put our heads together and decided that - while we are still giving the little one's Christmas - we're under no obligation to go spend gobs of cash. I never want anything for Christmas except peace and quiet with my family. Maybe some deviled eggs.

If I'm honest, the empty ritual of holiday spending & consumption has done nothing but get me down since I was a teenager. I'm all for building interpersonal bridges via gift-giving. I just think it's mostly a rote exercise and it feels stupid, and there's something particularly gross to me when the talking heads get starry-eyed and giddy talking about sales numbers.

Just my feelings on the matter.

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posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 07:38 PM
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According to WHOM ? Out here in " REAL TIME REAL AMERICA " Money is Flowing Smoothly . Fook the Banks , Mattresses are Bulging All Over America in CASH . I Cannot Deny what My Eyes and Pocket Reveal to Me .



posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 07:41 PM
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show us in the charts what retails sales wear weak?



posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: JAGStorm

I'm not seeing it.
The stores are packed around here.



posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 07:54 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
show us in the charts what retails sales wear weak?



www.nerdwallet.com...




Many will spend less due to their view of the economy....While over half (60%) of holiday shoppers say their perception of the economy will not affect how much they spend on gifts this year, 3 in 10 (30%) say they’ll spend less because of it. For perspective, that’s 66 million Americans who are tightening their purse strings in response to their perception of the economy.



Or it could be online shopping is taking over.
www.newsday.com...




In-store traffic on Black Friday fell 2.1% compared to the same day last year, while in-store sales fell 1.6%, according to preliminary data from RetailNext, a San Jose-based retail analytics company.



posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 07:55 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: JAGStorm

I'm not seeing it.
The stores are packed around here.


anecdotal evidence show us something real for once.. oh wait.....



posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 08:03 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: JAGStorm

I'm not seeing it.
The stores are packed around here.


anecdotal evidence show us something real for once.. oh wait.....


I'm still waiting for an update on one of your "many" doom porn predictions..

Tic tock..



posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 08:05 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: JAGStorm

I'm not seeing it.
The stores are packed around here.


Normally they are here too, this time of year.
Feels weird.



posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 08:23 PM
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originally posted by: DictionaryOfExcuses
My family is intentionally spending a mere fraction of what we might have in past years. We all put our heads together and decided that - while we are still giving the little one's Christmas - we're under no obligation to go spend gobs of cash. I never want anything for Christmas except peace and quiet with my family. Maybe some deviled eggs.

If I'm honest, the empty ritual of holiday spending & consumption has done nothing but get me down since I was a teenager. I'm all for building interpersonal bridges via gift-giving. I just think it's mostly a rote exercise and it feels stupid, and there's something particularly gross to me when the talking heads get starry-eyed and giddy talking about sales numbers.

Just my feelings on the matter.


I've felt the same way and I'm in my 60's.



posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 08:26 PM
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originally posted by: cenpuppie
Nah, your right.

Have you heard anything about the Black Friday or Cyber Monday sales? It's been dismal across the board and people are hoping that Christmas will bail out retailers but that isn't looking to good either.

The economy is grinding to halt but as long as that stock market goes higher, its all good.


Not sure where you got that from...


New York (CNN)This year's Black Friday shaped up to be the biggest yet. Americans spent $7.4 billion online on Black Friday and $4.2 billion on Thanksgiving Day.

With Thanksgiving landing six days later than last year, retailers amped up their advertising and served up deep discounts on items such as appliances, sporting goods, televisions, consumers and toys, according to Adobe Analytics.

"We've got a shorter holiday selling season," Jason Woosley, Adobe's vice president of commerce product and platform, told CNN Business earlier this week. "That's creating a compression effect."

Consumers spent $11.6 billion online over the two days. Friday was also the biggest day ever for mobile sales, as $2.9 billion came from smartphones. People are getting more comfortable with buying online and on smaller screens.


Black Friday sets online records

Your view of reality seems... unfounded.




posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 08:38 PM
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It is a subdued vibe this year.

With money very tight, I'm just going to make a donation at the Christmas Bureau(who just got robber) in lieu of presents for the family this year..everybody already has what the want/need.



posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 08:39 PM
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originally posted by: Subrosabelow
Working at the Wall of Marts, we did a massive amount of business starting with the week of Black Friday and it's been steady ever since. We also do Ship to Store online sales for the WM website and that's been insanely busy as well. I'm expecting a huge crash after December though since the oilfield is dead here in Alberta and unemployment is up as well as cost of living.


I'd say I'm sorry that Canadian politics have killed off the oilfield up there, but I'm buying some pretty nice gas compressors for pennies on the dollar from the Great White North lately for the Bakken oilfield.

Perhaps Canada needs to elect a conservative to run the place...




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