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BRAVO to the British population for electing the strongest Conservative majority since Thatcher !

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posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 07:28 AM
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originally posted by: SprocketUK
Reading today that Emily Thornberry is being touted as a possible leader of Labour.
Do these people never learn?
She was in bed with a legal firm farming false charges against British soldiers, then she famously sneered at the working classes by tweeting her pic of the house with the white van and England flag...now she's decided it's ok to label voters in the north as stupid for not seeing the world her way.
It's almost like there's a conspiracy among rich tossers to stop Labour ever being electable.



The tree that doesn't sway and bend in a wind inevitably gets up rooted




posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 07:30 AM
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originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: SprocketUK
A couple of days ago, Twitter was pushing Dawn Butler. I don't know Labour politicians, so i can't comment.




As long as its not Diane Abbott



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 07:41 AM
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a reply to: DISRAELI

It's not up to me obviously, but any of the main, remainer elements becoming leader will just mean Labour is pointless.

My choice would be Angela Rayner, but I think perhaps that the labour party that means something to me died with John Smith.



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 07:41 AM
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a reply to: eletheia
She's become a parody of herself.



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 07:44 AM
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originally posted by: eletheia

originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: SprocketUK
A couple of days ago, Twitter was pushing Dawn Butler. I don't know Labour politicians, so i can't comment.




As long as its not Diane Abbott


As a Tory, i kind of pray that it is!


Jess Phillips may be a good shout but she does appear to have got a bit more "luvvified" recently. If she can get rid of that, she could be serious opposition.
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posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 08:47 AM
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a reply to: Grenade

I like Trump.

I had no idea he shared liberal conservative views like Johnson. Who voted for equal rights for gays etc etc.



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 09:12 AM
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I predict Labour will move further to the “left”. Not the proper, old school left that this country needs mind you, but further to the minority pandering, pro-corporate, anti-worker, pro-EU and pro-global “left”. The very platform that cost them the election and will surely ensure Tory rulership for another decade.

How do I know this? Because it happens every time in every western country when this new neoliberal left loses at anything. They go further off the deep end and further alienate their voting base.



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 09:39 AM
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a reply to: Ohanka

I think you are right.

They don't believe in the ideals of the real left so they jump onto every tertiary thing they can find to deflect.



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 10:17 AM
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a reply to: SprocketUK



My choice would be Angela Rayner, but I think perhaps that the labour party that means something to me died with John Smith.


Got to agree with you on both counts there.

John Smith could have been this country's greatest Prime Minister since Clement Attlee.

Angela Rayner has shown a steely resolve to achieve what she has so far and has the tenacity and personal strength that good leaders need.
She is fresh and seems able to at least try to think on her feet and doesn't necessarily rely on political soundbites.



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 11:00 AM
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Just want to add that I don't think Labour will be electable until they free themselves from the control Momentum has over the party and realises that the London Labour, champagne socialist, politically correct, minority promoting clique are not representative of their core traditional support.



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 01:04 PM
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originally posted by: M5xaz
Congrats are in order for our British friends for rejecting the LIES of just about every major media outlet, some that were FALSELY claiming that there was only a 6% difference between the Tories and Labour, others again FALSELY pushing the narrative that Corbyn could be the next PM.



Are you serious?

The media has been anti Corbyn throughout, particularly the BBC and their Tory flag waving political anchor Laura Kunsberg. Every section of the establishment, including the media has been terrified that Corbyn might get in and halt the gravy train of the rich 1%.

And of course he was cited as a possible next PM - it was general election!

It would seem that a little knowledge is indeed a dangerous thing.

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posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 01:09 PM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: SprocketUK



My choice would be Angela Rayner, but I think perhaps that the labour party that means something to me died with John Smith.


Got to agree with you on both counts there.

John Smith could have been this country's greatest Prime Minister since Clement Attlee.



If John Smith hadn’t had a ‘heart attack’, paving the way for Blare, then Bush would probably not have got his Iraq backing and the Neo’s agenda may have been cut short, or never even begun. Makes you wonder!



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 02:47 PM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
Just want to add that I don't think Labour will be electable until they ...


... stop getting a Leader from the echo chamber in London.

In Labour you have the traditionalist who mostly wat to leave the the EU, are wary of immigration and support social cohesion, versus the elitist intellectuals (mainly London-based) who want to stay in the EU, want free movement and immigration and embrace race, gender, trans et al, at the expense of everything else.

A Left-leaning Labour Party is unelectable. The Conservatives will now occupy the centre ground, which is what makes a party electable.



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 03:50 PM
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a reply to: Freeborn

Yeah, she's also a believer, unlike most of the other frontbenchers



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 08:59 PM
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I'm a middle of the road kind of guy. Fiscally lean conservative; socially lean left, and I've been accused of abandoning my party. I don't believe that is the case. It's not my father's party any more. The party has left me, to the "left" to be sure, but I really mean "abandoned me." So here I am on the right, as amazed as I could ever be. I never would have thought. I don't think I've changed. They did.
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posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 06:38 AM
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originally posted by: schuyler
I'm a middle of the road kind of guy. Fiscally lean conservative; socially lean left, and I've been accused of abandoning my party. I don't believe that is the case. It's not my father's party any more. The party has left me, to the "left" to be sure, but I really mean "abandoned me." So here I am on the right, as amazed as I could ever be. I never would have thought. I don't think I've changed. They did.

That's right. The Labour Party was infiltrated by thousands of young students and graduates ("Momentum", etc) who have been brainwashed by their post-modern, socialist teachers. It is no longer the party of the traditional working class. That is partly why many of the latter stopped voting for the Labour Party. Instead, it has become populated with activists for the rights of every identity group a sociologist could conceive. Poor, uneducated people living in deprived areas without jobs are very low down in their list of priorities. Traditional socialism has been thrown out of the window. That is why so many working class people have become alienated from the party. They have truly been abandoned by the party of their parents and grandparents.



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 06:44 AM
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Mice get caught in a mousetrap because they don't know why the cheese is free.

Same with socialists.



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 06:56 AM
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originally posted by: PaddyInf
Mice get caught in a mousetrap because they don't know why the cheese is free.

Same with socialists.



You could say the same for students...... They have lived three years having

payments put into their bank accounts without giving it a thought......socialism

sounds good!?


Its only when they grow up and see that money comes out of their earnings they

realise THEY are paying for all the free stuff. sooooo stop wasting MY money?






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posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 08:29 AM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
Just want to add that I don't think Labour will be electable until they free themselves from the control Momentum has over the party and realises that the London Labour, champagne socialist, politically correct, minority promoting clique are not representative of their core traditional support.


This is the pit of old farts, and they'll agree with you.

You guys are history already, there's a new generation coming and they wont be that easy to fool with remnants of a Cold War mentality. This is more about your old fears from the Iron Curtain than it is about reality and actual politics.

We'll need new solutions for this dying species of naked apes, and we wont find it in your old textbooks from a Brave New Oiligarchy. This Boris might be the last Thatcher we'll see, who knows?



posted on Dec, 16 2019 @ 08:39 AM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion
You are forgetting one very pertinent point. Every day, little by little, you yourself are getting older. It is a well-known factor in politics that people drift from left to right, from "progress" to "conservatism" as they get older. Now you are Edmund Burke praising the American Revolution. In a number of years, you will be Edmund Burke attacking the French Revolution. When your children are as old as you are now, you will be the old fart hailing the heir of the old Johnson traditions.



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