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Predictions for impeachment timeline

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posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 11:07 AM
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IMO, Schiff sham scam should not be exposed by the Senate. Doing so would negate everything, including the Senate Trial and the Biden's, along with corrupt Democrat's exposure.




posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 11:10 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Boadicea

The Dem defections from Pelosi's impeachment sham are continuing.

Rep. Van Drew showed his wisdom last night: www.usatoday.com...


This is encouraging:

"There are numbers of my colleagues who are thinking about it, what they want to do, and are not sure," he said.

I wonder how many of the Dem Reps are silently fuming over what their party is doing.... and putting individual Reps in serious jeopardy with their voters in the process.



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

The only other time I have been this disappointed with Government is when they drafted me into a useless war .



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

Should the House Dems not have enough votes to even impeach, this would signal as you say the split in the party is not just cosmetic, but rather a serious divide.
Then should the candidates who were in favor of impeachment continue to flounder, which is within all likelihood, the party would then need to search for a more moderate candidate. This for me would be their only hope in 2020 in any event.



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 11:35 AM
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originally posted by: Plotus
As democrats disintegrate, who do you suppose will rise from the ashes? Seems an unfair advantage then for Republicans. Of which I am one. But I want real honest voting for the issues my country faces. The representation of All of us.


I really cannot hazard a guess at this point. Too many variables still.

Perhaps the best we can hope for is that the internal factions are so busy fighting among themselves that they keep each other from having enough power to cause any further damage to the nation. And I say that for the Republicans as well, and the nation as a whole. Perhaps they will only have enough power to accomplish anything when it's for the good of all, rather than the good of the few.

But, like you, I am considering the sharks circling the drain and wondering how it's going to play out.



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: 10uoutlaw
a reply to: Boadicea

The only other time I have been this disappointed with Government is when they drafted me into a useless war .


You would have very much appreciated my dad's rants about that war... and the critters in DC running it. He lost a cousin over there.

And thank you -- your service is appreciated.



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 11:53 AM
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originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: Boadicea

Should the House Dems not have enough votes to even impeach, this would signal as you say the split in the party is not just cosmetic, but rather a serious divide.
Then should the candidates who were in favor of impeachment continue to flounder, which is within all likelihood, the party would then need to search for a more moderate candidate. This for me would be their only hope in 2020 in any event.


If Dems couldn't rally enough votes to impeach, that would be a watershed moment for the party and the nation. Even if it were by Reps voting "present" rather than yea or nay. Just that failure to get their preferred -- expected! -- result would signal a fatal loss of support for the OG. That would be their death knell.

But I think it's already coming. The Old Guard is old, and they are losing their grasp on power. The younger generations are moving up, and more are voting every year. They are struggling too. No one feels like their party has been taking care of the people's business so-to-speak. More and more people understand that what they've been doing hasn't worked, isn't worked and isn't going to work. So I do think the first step is getting the OG failures out of office, and we can at least start considering new solutions for the problems they've created.

With the current political games and climate, I could see one of the underdog Dem candidates get the nomination in the end. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a brokered convention. (That would sure be interesting!) There's a small part of me that isn't giving up on the Tulsi Gabbard still getting the nomination.



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 12:02 PM
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originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: Boadicea

Should the House Dems not have enough votes to even impeach, this would signal as you say the split in the party is not just cosmetic, but rather a serious divide.
Then should the candidates who were in favor of impeachment continue to flounder, which is within all likelihood, the party would then need to search for a more moderate candidate. This for me would be their only hope in 2020 in any event.

No way. The dems are done, for how long depends on what they do at this point, but I think if their final vote fails, it will hurt them even more than a pass would.



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 12:02 PM
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a reply to: Plotus

not the person you asked but i think were gearing up for a split of the dem party, the old guard vs the new "socialist ones+bernie so if 2020 goes as badly as i think it will for the dems they may try to remake the party



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 12:03 PM
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originally posted by: Boadicea
There's a small part of me that isn't giving up on the Tulsi Gabbard still getting the nomination.

She's definitely the best of the bunch by far, but she would still lose to Trump, and she is far too left for my taste anyway (although she is without question a total hottie).



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 12:04 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea
I think we think a lot alike. The convention.
One good thing that Sanders spearheaded was to staunch the power of the OG by limiting the power of the Super Delegates at the convention. They can no longer use their voting block as SDs on the first ballot. This leaves open the possiblity of that brokered convention. At least on the first ballot.

I think Gabbard knows this. While others around her have dropped out, she is still running. Even Harris, who was Gabbards most audible critic in past debates is now gone. And the Clinton insinuations were immediately tossed back in her face. Everyone knows that the two are at odds. The more the battle (?) rages in that party the more it looks like it could come down to that convention with the Clinton Machine against whoever rises from the pack. I can only see Gabbard at this point.



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 12:16 PM
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One of the main things I have learned from watching, listening, reading, and researching all of this is that the Democrats actually hate Americans, just as Jim Jordan stated.

They love America for what they can suck out of its hard-working tax-paying citizens, but, in general, they despise the great People of this country. We are chattle to them. If I hear another one of these blood suckers mention our Constitution and The American People, I am going to heave. Such fake patriotism.

Note who screams the loudest in the Dem party. So many of them are west coast CA freaks: Pelosi, Schiff, Watters, Feinstein, Swalwell. The other loudmouths are on the other coast, Schumer, Clinton, et al. These people want power over the TAXPAYERS of the rest of Americans because they use us and our tax money to enrich themselves. They give it away to their favs in order to get kickbacks in return.

DRAIN THE SWAMP...Keep going till it's cleaned up. They're writhing like the swamp creatures they are.
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posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 12:19 PM
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a reply to: tanstaafl


She's definitely the best of the bunch by far...


I think so too. I think that's why she's been so vilified by the party. Can't let the masses see that... then they'd actually vote for her!


...but she would still lose to Trump...


Agreed. I think these impeachment shenanigans cinched it for Trump.


...(although she is without question a total hottie).


LOL! Yes, she is a cutie



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

Go to her website and read her domestic policies. Don't be taken in by her "cuteness".

Notice when she goes on the talk shows, she mainly talks about her foreign policies. That's because most of those are fairly acceptable for most Americans and especially appeal to the middle of the road Americans.

She rarely gets into her domestic policies, however. She's as far left-leaning as the rest of them in that area.



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 12:30 PM
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originally posted by: queenofswords
Go to her website and read her domestic policies. Don't be taken in by her "cuteness".

Notice when she goes on the talk shows, she mainly talks about her foreign policies. That's because most of those are fairly acceptable for most Americans and especially appeal to the middle of the road Americans.

She rarely gets into her domestic policies, however. She's as far left-leaning as the rest of them in that area.

I agree...

One t hing I'd love to see is for Trump to offer her a high-level job - say, Ambassador to the UN, or NSA - maybe even SOS.



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 12:36 PM
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originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: Boadicea
I think we think a lot alike.


It sure seems so!


The convention.
One good thing that Sanders spearheaded was to staunch the power of the OG by limiting the power of the Super Delegates at the convention. They can no longer use their voting block as SDs on the first ballot. This leaves open the possiblity of that brokered convention. At least on the first ballot.


Yes -- thank Heaven for small wonders, eh? That was a power grab from the gitgo.


I think Gabbard knows this. While others around her have dropped out, she is still running. Even Harris, who was Gabbards most audible critic in past debates is now gone. And the Clinton insinuations were immediately tossed back in her face. Everyone knows that the two are at odds. The more the battle (?) rages in that party the more it looks like it could come down to that convention with the Clinton Machine against whoever rises from the pack. I can only see Gabbard at this point.


I'm with you. I think she's definitely the best of the bunch, but have some serious disagreements with her positions as well. But I very much like her style. The best of her military training and discipline is on display. Slow and steady and methodical, take no prisoners, keep marching forward. Mentally and emotionally she has prepared herself for the long haul up a steep hill. Those are definitely qualities I can appreciate in a president!

I'm not ruling Tulsi out until I absolutely have to.



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 12:45 PM
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originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: Boadicea

Go to her website and read her domestic policies. Don't be taken in by her "cuteness".


LOL! I can keep it in perspective... no worries


She supports self-ID for transgender persons. That's all I need to know.



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 12:51 PM
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a reply to: tanstaafl


One thing I'd love to see is for Trump to offer her a high-level job - say, Ambassador to the UN, or NSA - maybe even SOS.


That's exactly the kind of thing that could help rebuild the Dems too. Bring new people and ideas to the forefront, put them in positions where they can have more responsibility and influence and access. Make the Old Guard who have so entrenched themselves in the bureaucracy increasingly irrelevant. Give these folks name recognition among the voters and give voters new people to vote for.

Trump would be doing us all a favor if he promoted more honest and reasonable Dems to replace those in the swamp.



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 12:58 PM
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a reply to: Christosterone

my prediction - the DNC will drag the face out - till october 2020 - allowing no time for a pre - election senate trail

the RNC - if they have any brains - SHOULD get the trail expidited - and go through it line by line - no " aquite regardless " idiocy - cross examine eveeyone - and watch the farce implode

they are all muppets - vote cookie monster - at least he has good bisquits



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: tanstaafl

I could get behind Tulsi for SoS. I like that she wants to bring the troops home, stop regime changes and talk with our enemies to find common ground.

Here is her on the issues for foreign policy:




Trump's chicken-hawks push Iran war; go back to nuke deal. (Jun 2019)
We need to engage in diplomacy & deescalate tensions. (May 2019)
Met with Syrian president; for "extreme vetting" of Syrians. (Apr 2019)
Defends meeting Syria's Assad; supports Trump on North Korea. (Jan 2019)
Skeptical of Iran nuclear deal. (May 2017)
Supports Egyptian dictator in fight against terrorism. (May 2017)
Against criticizing India's treatment of Muslims. (May 2017)
U.S. should focus on fighting terrorism, not regime change. (Jan 2017)
$500M and 3,000 troops to Africa to fight Ebola. (Jul 2014)


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Obviously, I don't agree with the going back to the Iran nuke deal.
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