a reply to: dfnj2015
This is basically the case. The facts show Trump is guilty as charged by the House. However, there is strong Republican propaganda out there that
allows Republicans to do whatever they want without being held accountable to facts or people they harm. So, in the end, what they believe is more
important than what is real. It is like faith. The propaganda can also program Republicans to think in certain ways because it is extremely hard to
So - obviously, Trump will not be convicted in the Senate. This will really be a grand Trump victory because it is kind of like the final battle for
him. He can do whatever he wants afterward and not be held accountable because what will anyone do, impeach him again? Um... no. Is he held
accountable to law enforcement? Mueller already said no.
So I think the idea after that is to force conservative values on the nation through strong-arm tactics and power-plays that could "unite" us into one
national entity. How far will this go? Will women still have a voice?
It might be nice in some ways, as people may be getting frustrated by fractured culture and also no easily discernible social structure. Conservatives
have enlarged amygdalas, which make them susceptible to fear and I don't think they feel comfortable unless everyone is tightly under control. Even
while being gay or trans hurts no one, conservatives *feel* like it does, because it scares them. They also seem to like falling in line to group
think rather than having the freedom to decide their own values with skills such as critical thinking, the scientific method, or empathy.
Sure, conservatives have empathy - for people who think the same. They don't have empathy for someone just because they are a human being, they don't
have the ability to understand different perspectives.
So... since this administration has decided to build its structure on lies, there is also the problem of people pointing out factual or scientific
information that contradicts their story. They could continue calling legitimate factual reporting "fake news" or start arresting reporters and stuff.
Since conservatives lack empathy for people who think differently, it might also be easy to dehumanize them and commit atrocities, such as expanding
their current "concentration camps" to more groups of people or even waging wars of sorts on liberals simply for their views (in direct violation of
the 1st Amendment, by the way).
Yes, it was annoying when liberals tried censoring conservatives, for one thing, it sent them underground to their own bubble where they didn't
exchange cultural information with liberals to help troubleshoot their views, which also resulted in liberals doing the same thing. It also gives
conservatives some agency to censor liberals in the future.
At any rate - my view is the future holds a strong, nationalist evangelical movement of types that will eventually crumble because it is built on
lies, and lies take a lot of upkeep to fight against. But - the advantage of the movement is that it is built on strong national identity of sorts,
which can be easier to manage than outright chaotic individualism.
Well, one other disadvantage is that the conservatives are gonna be trying to force their views on a majority of the population, with many of those
people not benefiting from the nationalism - such as around 47% of people who work but can't do much to support themselves, or possibly women, who
tend to have empathy or insights about ways to change structure that are shut down by men. So it ends up looking like bitter white men trying to keep
their power so they can ignore legitimate criticism from outsiders who are affected in a negative manner by their actions.
Now, conservatives could turn the tide on this - by being more inclusive and offering benefits from their new nationalist social structure to
outsiders in a show of good faith. One feasible example is by improving the economy in a meaningful way (increasing the wealth of the top percenters
WILL NOT change the views of the lower and fledgling middle-class. So economic growth, in general, IS NOT the best metric to look at. Look at wage
growth for other areas besides the top).
Well, I would also recommend conservatives start looking at real data and facts rather than their feelings, that might allow them to adjust their
strategy to realign with reality (is it really impossible for conservatism to be based on facts and science? Come on... you all have such little faith
IF they were smart, they would take out the trash in their own ranks, especially the Russian sympathizers, and cut ties with listening to Russian
propaganda. Currently, the way I see it, they can either risk allying with Russia and work on that alliance openly and see if it is actually
beneficial or they might get screwed and betrayed by Russia, or even fall into a situation where they rely on Russia and therefore become susceptible
to Russian control.
They could also pretend they aren't allied with Russia atm, even though Republican lawmakers and Trump have been directly influenced by Russian
propaganda that they believe because it is convenient to them to (for now). And conservatives don't seem to mind the fact that Russia interfered in
the 2016 elections and aims to again in 2020 - they say they are ignorant about it, but really, I think they are comfortable with it because it
benefits them (for now).
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