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What does it mean if Trump gets off Scott free

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posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 08:11 PM
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a reply to: sligtlyskeptical

If bribery is pretty clear, then why isn't he being impeached for bribery?




posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 08:17 PM
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a reply to: sligtlyskeptical

ROFLMAO... Care to EXCERPT from the call transcript where President Trump tried to bribe Ukraine?

The ones not wanting to admit facts are you, and the rest of the radical left-wingers.

Both the former, and present Presidents of Ukraine have gone on record saying President Trump didn't pressure them, or committed any crimes, or did anything wrong.

Ukrainian president says he felt no pressure on Trump call

Ukrainian President Zelensky: Trump didn’t blackmail me during call about Joe Biden

Ukraine's leader: Trump didn't use US military aid as lever

Liars always get caught in their lies, and no matter how many times you keep repeating those lies they won't become truth.




edit on 13-12-2019 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.



posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 08:17 PM
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originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: MachineMan
a reply to: dfnj2015

Not a single witness said he broke the law.


Witnesses generally don't say whether or not a law was broken, they simply state—testify to—what they, um, witnessed.


That's even more puzzling, since none of the witnesses witnessed anything.



posted on Dec, 13 2019 @ 08:20 PM
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originally posted by: Liquesence

Witnesses generally don't say whether or not a law was broken, they simply state—testify to—what they, um, witnessed.


Wrong... None of the democrat puppets admitted to having any evidence supporting their claims. Not to mention the fact that they gave their "opinion and assumptions" because the POTUS DARED define policy about Ukraine differently than they, whom were OBAMA's appointees...

The only "crime" (which isn't really a crime) is the fact that President Trump has defined policy about Ukraine differently than the socialist/democrats want, and in case you didn't know IT IS THE RIGHT OF THE POTUS TO DEFINE OUR POLICY ON OTHER COUNTRIES AS HE/SHE SEES FIT...





edit on 13-12-2019 by ElectricUniverse because: add comment.



posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 10:04 AM
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originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: dfnj2015

An old friend of ours surprised us and vote Trump in 16. After a while she began posting pro Trump stuff on her time line.
The other day she posted that anti-Trump Dems should be locked up.

And there you have it. That lurking concern behind the Trump madness, this sense that behind his rampaging rhetoric people would be moved to more and more egregious considerations as to acceptable actions.

A good woman, a fun woman, a level headed woman who, four years ago, hardly even talked about politics now believes that half the nation should be locked up because they oppose the current potus and will not toe the line he has drawn. A line that he keeps erasing, one after another as he draws a new line further down the path to his own brand of authoritarianism.



Nice heartfelt little story there. Now, what do you think about the fact that that phone call where the OP is alleging Trump committed crimes by asking for an investigation into his political opponent.....actually took place BEFORE Biden announced he was running for president?

Or how about The White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) released a new legal memo on Wednesday indicating that the Trump administration’s decision to temporarily hold military assistance to Ukraine was a “routine” practice and that the administration was reviewing whether Ukraine complied with U.S. policy....?



posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 10:35 AM
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a reply to: Alien Abduct

Do you mean this announcement on April 25?

en.wikipedia.org...




And this phone call from July 25?


www.nbcnews.com...



posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: MachineMan

I am an activist Trump supporter and if he broke any law worth impeachment I would happily see him removed.

There is zero evidence that Trump did anything. The Dems are creating false narratives.



posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 11:51 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

Some people just believe what they want to. Trump did not break any laws. Most of the testimony was based on hearsay and on peoples’ perception based on political bias, not to mention a few coverups of their own corruption( such as the woman whose husband had taken a lot of money from Ukraine) to people who were mad about losing their job to deep state Soros agents...



posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 12:18 PM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

Soliciting foreign donations to a political campaign???? Did you mean Hillary and Bill by any chance ? Giving back donations to China ... does that ring a bell by any chance ? www.google.com...
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posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 03:08 PM
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I'm amazed that there seems to be no limit on partisanship. It just keeps getting more and more extremist.



posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 03:26 PM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
I understand there is a lot of partisan siding on the Trump impeachment. The thing is from my perspective, from the witnesses, it really does look like Trump broke the law and his oath of office.

Even though there is a constant barrage of propaganda saying it's all made up, Trump is innocent, the Democrats are just playing politics, it seems to me there really is something bad going on here.

Even so, Republicans in the Senate already have said regardless of the evidence and what the House does they will acquit Trump no matter what. So all you Republicans can be HAPPY again and be smug about how much better you are than the Democrats.

But for me, I just feel if Trump gets off Scott free from breaking the law and his oath of office the Constitution is done. We now live in an Article II dictatorship. We might as well flush the Constitution down the drain and start arresting Democrats for not having loyalty to the President. I think Trump getting off Scott free may be the end of our US Constitution and the end of our government.

Because what comes next is complete and total lawlessness by the President without any checks-and-balances. The US is or will be officially be a banana Republic.



"Looks like" and having proof he did are two VERY different and vitally important things.

If the Dems go through with the vote and it goers to the senate, it will fail. And rightfully so.

Abuse of Office with no crime proven with evidence to back it up, is subjective. The opposing party could accuse any President of something, and impeach them for it if that were the case. A precedent you better hope doesn't get set.

As Alan Dershowitz just said, the Obstruction of Congress article is dead right now. The reason? because the Supreme Court took up Trump's other case contesting the Dem's attempts to get his Taxes and finance records. Why is that important you ask? Well, they were subpoenaed by the House Dems, and he refused, and the SC took the case. That sets precedent that House subpeonas are not enforceable unless a court declares them so.

Dead in the water. The Dems know this.

And, BTW this is EXACTLY what the Founding Fathers intended for the Supreme Court to do. 3 Co-equal branches. The House is not all powerful, they can be challenged.



posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 03:57 PM
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originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: MachineMan
a reply to: dfnj2015

Not a single witness said he broke the law.


Witnesses generally don't say whether or not a law was broken, they simply state—testify to—what they, um, witnessed.

And what law did Trump break and what witness testimony points to that law being broken? The TDS is hilarious, every witness said what we already know, Trump did nothing wrong.

The Democrats argument that the Executive branch has lost it's Constitutional rights and powers because it will take too long to go through the courts is a hilarious and stupid argument. There is no Obstruction, the courts are the recourse for the House.
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posted on Dec, 14 2019 @ 08:53 PM
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a reply to: sligtlyskeptical

Without proof of your statement, you have nothing but an opinion. Sometimes aid is given to other countries, just to help out. It's good P.R. and it's been happening for ages. It doesn't mean that he's sleeping with the enemy though. You Lib's and you're collusion conspiracies. You guys keep it up, you'll get that power back yet.

edit on 14-12-2019 by IlluminatiTechnician because: he felt like it.



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 01:20 AM
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originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: Alien Abduct

Do you mean this announcement on April 25?

en.wikipedia.org...




And this phone call from July 25?


www.nbcnews.com...



Perhaps you can quote from that phone call transcript that you cited where there is quid pro quo?



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 01:27 AM
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posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 03:23 AM
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originally posted by: MachineMan
a reply to: dfnj2015

Trump didn't break the law. Not a single witness said he broke the law.


Because without solid evidence Trump will sue sue sue. I just hope the orange man ends up wearing orange. The irony is toxic.



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 04:11 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

If Trump emerges clean, or "Scott free" then it means justice prevails. Simply put, they are trying to nail him with actions his predecessors all also did, only nobody tried to call them illegal then because they are not and were not illegal and, honestly, the opposition parties of those prior presidencies were nowhere near as brazenly gangsta as the asshats we see today.



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 05:11 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

Gets off scott free from breaking the law?
What law?
Biden pays millions to shut down an investigation unto into his sons company in Ukraine... Trump inquires and now trump us on trial. Lol

Please try and remember you have a brain somewhere and use it please.



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 08:51 AM
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Because without solid evidence Trump will sue sue sue.


And he should. They have done nothing but drag him through the mud for two years hunting for any way to frame him for something, even creating lies just hoping the American people will fall for their Liberal BS. Nothing worked, so yeah, he should sue, sue, sue. They would all deserve it. Quite frankly, all Liberals in on this hoax of the American people and the world wide embarrassment of our system ALL need to be locked up. The Liberals don't want a REAL trial though, that's why they're shying away. They know under oath...they will be outed for the frauds that they all are.



posted on Dec, 15 2019 @ 09:00 AM
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If Trump gets off scot free, the whole affair could reasonably be perceived as a attempted coup d'etat by covert forces.
Either way, it will be an entertaining news cycle. Conspiracies galore
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