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Europe, Be Wary of the EU Constitution!!!!!

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posted on Mar, 8 2005 @ 01:32 PM
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50 years after WW2 and the defeat of Hitler, his dreams of a united europe with a Nazi type of constitution are about to come true right before your eyes and yet you dont see it!

Get ready to loose you National Individualism!

EU constitution will create the following,

An unelected president, foreign minister and diplomatic service.
A judicial system, recognized external borders.
A military capacity and a police force.
EU's legally binding power in security matters.
Protectionist regulations.

Removing powers from member states and concentrating many of them in Brussels.

Be Wary of the EU Constitution

March 2, 2005
By Martin Callanan
Washington Times

Last week President Bush was in Brussels, meeting with NATO, the European Council and the European Commission president. Many of the EU elite may not have told Mr. Bush his trip coincided with one of the most pivotal points of U.S. and European relations. This year starts the countdown to many national referendums on the proposed European constitution.

www.washingtontimes.com...

EU Aims to be Global Military Superpower!!!

March 3, 2005
By Anthony Browne
Raiders News

AMID a trans-Atlantic row over its determination to resume arms sales to China, the European Union has outlined plans to become a military superpower and close the defence technology gap on the US.

The EU would develop unmanned drones, new armoured vehicles and advanced communication systems, the British head of the newly created European Defence Agency said.

www.raidersnewsupdate.com...




posted on Mar, 8 2005 @ 01:34 PM
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Long Live United Europe and its nascent Consitution! The path to the future was not easy and Europe's history is a fascinating succession of conflict and creation. Wha't happening now is wonderful.



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 06:31 PM
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Europe, united? Hahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha, that'll be on a cold day when pigs have wings.



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 10:53 PM
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First of all this whole unification thing is going to take time. Second the next superpower is China and there is not a damn thing the EU can do about it. China as of right now might not have the infastructure that the countries of Europe do but give 5 to 10 years and they will get there. And on top of that selling weapons to China is going to help their quest to become a superpower. China is an industrial powerhouse and we all no that in war whoever can produce will win. Unfourtunatly a united EU will only be another thorn in the U.S 's side. I guess will just have to wait and see



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 11:20 PM
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Whats so wrong about there constitution, who cares if they become one big nation anyways.



posted on Mar, 10 2005 @ 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by ryster23
Unfourtunatly a united EU will only be another thorn in the U.S 's side.


As the French might say, action de sandwich. Europe will be the tuna between the bread. The bread will be toasted with the top loaf being China and the bottom loaf being the United States. Some continual sandwich action or action de sandwich.



posted on Mar, 11 2005 @ 09:05 PM
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Hooray, let's try to be a world power. Take twenty-five little kids and "unite" them against the big bad US of A, and you've got the European Union!



posted on Mar, 11 2005 @ 09:41 PM
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I think a united Europe would be good, but I don't like this constitution at all, it seems very anti-democratic. I would think that Europeans would want a more transparent system with more accountability.



posted on Mar, 12 2005 @ 01:00 PM
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Their charter of human rights is a farce. It seems like every other right is qualified with "in accordance with law" or words to that effect, subjugating rights-- -which by definition are things people are inherently allowed to do without permission-- to the whims of legislators.

[edit on 3/12/2005 by BeefotronX]



posted on Mar, 12 2005 @ 01:15 PM
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Ha! Our charter of human rights is a farce ?! Two Words. Guantanmo Bay.

Merkz out.



posted on Mar, 12 2005 @ 02:02 PM
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And on top of that selling weapons to China is going to help their quest to become a superpower.


Yep, and Europe is the one who will make all the money off it




Hooray, let's try to be a world power. Take twenty-five little kids and "unite" them against the big bad US of A, and you've got the European Union!


We're not trying to do anything. We do not wish to get into a stupid wang measuring contest with the US or anyone else, to much money and a waste of time. Besides, we have considerable diplomatic clout that we use, and a sizeable ability to "entice" others to do our bidding with our trading powers.



I think a united Europe would be good, but I don't like this constitution at all, it seems very anti-democratic. I would think that Europeans would want a more transparent system with more accountability.


I agree. It needs to be explained more clearly for starters, and secondly, we need more directly elected people doing the decision making in Brussels.



Their charter of human rights is a farce. It seems like every other right is qualified with "in accordance with law" or words to that effect, subjugating rights-- -which by definition are things people are inherently allowed to do without permission-- to the whims of legislators.


Thats the way it has always been, especially in the UK. We do not have "rights" per se, but merely that we are permitted to do what is not proscribed by law. But as our legislators are far more accountable (MP's for instance being easily reachable, and serving a small local area), it is rarely (if ever) abused.



Ha! Our charter of human rights is a farce ?! Two Words. Guantanmo Bay.


Indeed.



posted on Mar, 13 2005 @ 02:50 PM
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Legal documents and practice are two entirely different things.

I'll give the EU one thing, it's honest.

The USA has a Constitution that starkly defines various human rights saying that no law can be made to infringe on them, in most instances, and the Supreme Court has usurped the authority to dictate the meaning of the Constitution to excuse all sorts of illegal government action.

In the EU, any human rights violation by the government is done legally, which makes it okay.



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