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WATCHING: IG Horowitz Senate Hearing

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posted on Dec, 11 2019 @ 12:06 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: neo96
Looks like we're ready to begin agian.



What's the story on this FoxNews Chris Wallace guy? (Former vet broadcaster Mike Wallace's son) He should be on CNN.

I agree, he is a real anti-Trump guy.




posted on Dec, 11 2019 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: Goedhardt

They're asking the right questions, but to the wrong guy. Durham or Barr should be testifying. Unfortunately, Durham will not be issuing a report until the indictments (if any) are made. Just like Mueller did.



posted on Dec, 11 2019 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: BrennanHuff22


So Horowitz is technically correct that the FBI never spied on the campaign? That it was actually the CIA who sent out Downer, Aza Turk, Halper, etc?


No, I'm saying that misleading journalists are using the wording that there was not a spy found working INSIDE the campaign doesn't mean that the FBI and hidden agents weren't spying on Trump and his campaign from OUTSIDE the inner circle of hired campaign workers.



posted on Dec, 11 2019 @ 12:09 PM
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Rights are not given by the constituition.

They are protected by it.



posted on Dec, 11 2019 @ 12:14 PM
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Graham's speech was great. He showed that the FBI screwed up bad and showed that the FBI had some major flaws in the way they handled the whole investigation. Seventeen mistakes turned into a huricane of deceit and turmoil. He is right, they need to rewrite the rules on how the FBI works....imediately so that it never happens again. The FBI hid the fact that the informant to Steele had testified that the doccier was a pile of garbage.



posted on Dec, 11 2019 @ 12:14 PM
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a reply to: iwanttobelieve70


What is wrong with everyone’s understanding of the English language. He did not say and has not claimed there is no bias. He has stated that nobody told him they were bias and they didn’t write it down on a piece of paper saying that they were bias.


True. Horowitz only stated that he did not FIND any documented evidence or testimonial evidence to bias. That's because the FBI had 2 years to get rid of any damning documentation they had before this investigation began. LOL!



posted on Dec, 11 2019 @ 12:16 PM
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time to get ri of fisa court and either purge the fbi or eliminate them entirely



posted on Dec, 11 2019 @ 12:16 PM
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I'm shocked that Durbin would be the one pointing out the YEARS (decades really) of FISA abuse. The FISA court did their own audit and published the 99 page report back in April 2017, so why hasn't anyone been busted already?! Continued proof of government failure.


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posted on Dec, 11 2019 @ 12:17 PM
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SPYING - verb (used without object), spied, spy·ing.
to observe secretively or furtively with hostile intent (often followed by on or upon).
to act as a spy (a person who keeps close and secret watch on the actions and words of another or others) engage in espionage.

Source: dictionary.com

Tell me again what they were doing was not spying?



posted on Dec, 11 2019 @ 12:20 PM
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I had to mute Durbin.

All he's doing is making excuses.



posted on Dec, 11 2019 @ 12:22 PM
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Let's face it, leaks are so rampant within our government, we don't have the time or money to prosecute it all. It will be like trying to prosecute all of the known years of FISA abuse. The difference here and now is that the abuse was related to an election and the possible framing of a sitting President. It's time to start nailing people.



posted on Dec, 11 2019 @ 12:23 PM
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Steele dossier had no influence ?

Then why include it?
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posted on Dec, 11 2019 @ 12:25 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
Steele dossier had no influence ?

Then why include it?


Horowitz said to OPEN CFH.

Dossier got the FISA on Page.



posted on Dec, 11 2019 @ 12:25 PM
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Wow! Inspector Generals weren't allowed to investigate the DEA or FBI until 2002 and they're still not able to interview their attorneys?!



posted on Dec, 11 2019 @ 12:25 PM
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There you go people.

No one from the Trump campaign was charged , Horowitz.

So the FBI did not have predication, because all it did was blow taxpayer money.
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posted on Dec, 11 2019 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Deetermined

Well yeah if you turn the report upside down and read it with one eye closed and the other squinted that's what it says.
But in actuality is says they cant indict a sitting president. Even though they had the goods on him.

Then it should be easy to cite "the goods" that they had on him? So tell us what exactly they had on him? Or are you talking out of your a55?



posted on Dec, 11 2019 @ 12:27 PM
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a reply to: BrennanHuff22

The FBI knew the CIA had assets in the campaign, but they didn't put that info in the FISA apps. So this or that guy is in contact with the Russians *because he's a CIA asset* (omit the part in asterisks) ... That's what the FBI did to make it look like the campaign was working with Russia and get those FISA warrants.

Those are just some of the omissions that would be exculpatory. After all, an asset would have a reason to be in contact with Russians, yes?



posted on Dec, 11 2019 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

But the CIA isn't allowed to operate on US soil.




posted on Dec, 11 2019 @ 12:30 PM
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All Trump has to do is take them all to civil court and bankrupt them. He doesn't need book deals and gofund me's either for his legal fees. Look what he did to Stormy. I'd start with Lisa Page and Nelly Ohr and her husband.



posted on Dec, 11 2019 @ 12:30 PM
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Myth 1: The CIA spies on US citizens
The CIA’s mission is to collect information related to foreign intelligence and foreign counterintelligence. By direction of the president in Executive Order 12333 of 1981, and in accordance with procedures approved by the Attorney General, the CIA is restricted in the collection of intelligence information directed against US citizens. Collection is allowed only for an authorized intelligence purpose; for example, if there is a reason to believe that an individual is involved in espionage or international terrorist activities. The CIA's procedures require senior approval for any such collection that is allowed, and, depending on the collection technique employed, the sanction of the Director of National Intelligence and Attorney General may be required. These restrictions have been in effect since the 1970s.

The FBI has the lead on intelligence matters in the United States, especially those directed against US citizens. The CIA does not collect information concerning the domestic activities of US citizens, but its foreign intelligence collection mission can be conducted anywhere.


So much for myths.



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