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Disney Star Wars Every Sane Person Has an Issue With President Donald Trump

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posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 12:43 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

The comments were not made in the movie though, I guess it was during an interview regarding the movie..ok. I still think free speech, but would of been better to leave the politics out.

Ok,
Having read the article, sounds like she was asked if she was restricted by Disney, she basically said no, made a comment regarding Johnson, and Trump, like a sentence or two.

This is a nothingburger!




posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 01:05 AM
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a reply to: CraftyArrow

Ridley was raised in Europe, and what she is saying is largely representative of the opinion in Europe.

Politics in Europe is very very difference from politics in America. So from her perspective what she is saying is true.



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 06:06 AM
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Heaven forbid a piece of media actually has something of substance to say haha. It’s been common throughout all of history for media to include social commentary.

Did you not notice it in the original trilogy somehow?
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posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 07:04 AM
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a reply to: darkbake

Something of substance?! It was about as hefty as Josh Brolin's butthole tanning adventure is healthy.

I mean let's examine the intellectual weight of it:

Is there anyone in your life you've never, ever had any kind of problem with? Is so, then you've met the perfect person. Even the people I love most I've had issues with here and there over the years.

To suggest that no one has issues with this or that president is absurd. I've had issues with all of them since I've been able to pay attention on both policy and personal, but what matters is the job they ultimately do.



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 07:36 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

still using "growth " as a measure of success in society when in actual fact its a sign of decay



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 07:40 AM
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a reply to: CraftyArrow

What I dont understand is , how can a whole generation of americans hate bush and cheney
then along comes trump
who is basically the #in same idiot as bush just with a different accent

and everyone is like "yaaaay" trump is the best



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 08:07 AM
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a reply to: sapien82

Trump isn't "the best".

He's actually the "best" alternative to what could have been Queen Hillary, Death Puke Goddess of the Damned.

Show me someone better and I'll vote for him/her.




posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 08:17 AM
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originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: DBCowboy


still using "growth " as a measure of success in society when in actual fact its a sign of decay


Yes we don't want people to have jobs do we? They need to rely on government for all their needs.

We don't want a successful economy, that frees up people to actually think and not have to rely on the God of government for their daily needs. We don't want the unwashed masses actually thinking for themselves, do we?

Having minorities employed at a higher rate and at better salaries then ever before in history? Why that is downright unAmerican. The government is supposed to give minorities everything, food, housing etc so they will vote for Democrats who promise them more and more stuff to not work.

More manufacturing in the US, think pollution pollution pollution - a sure sign of decay.

More fair trade deals? Who does the US think it is? I mean we should know that all trade deals should shaft the US, the intellectual property of the US, the American people because we are the worst nation on the face of the earth. After all we all know the US is responsible for all the ills of the world, has raped and pillaged the entire world and has more than it's fair share of everything. The Democrats have it right, it is wrong to make the US equal to other countries in trade deals, the US doesn't deserve it, not now, not ever. pfffftttt

You are right our society is decaying horribly under the terrible awful racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamophobic and worst of all Judeo-Christian conservatives. The US is in total decline and rapid decay all because of Donald Trump and those nasty, mean, horrid conservatives! Puke.





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posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 08:29 AM
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a reply to: The2Billies

yes but what you aren't factoring in to this is that the model of capitalism which we all live under , that gives us more jobs and more money in our pockets is a system that is in decay
it cant be sustained , so using "growth" as a measure of success only works in this failing system
what good will growth be in terms of money and jobs , when we can actually #ing "grow" anything .

Any #ing idiot can make new jobs and more money in your pockets by changing legislation and by making trade deals and changing things for the better in the short term , as in , however long trump is in office as long as it looks good on paper now , damn the future !
Whats conservative about that ?

I never said anything about trump being racist , sexist , homophopbic , or islamophobic
or being judeo christian , but I guess that's how america must see him then aye ?

hahahah how can trump be a conservative when he doesnt want to conserve the environment ?
not much of a traditionalist if he doesnt want traditional social human values

How did we get civilisation in the first place, I wonder, was it because we worked together to achieve our goals
is that not socialism ?



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 08:47 AM
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a reply to: sapien82

Working together is not socialism. That's just teamwork.

If I bring my hammer and Joe brings his saw and Don brings his drill and we all us our tools to help turn Eli's wood into a barn, we all still own our tools, and the barn still belongs to Eli because it was made out of his materials. We simply helped him. That isn't socialism.

Socialism would be where the village council owns the tools, the materials, and anything made. They decide what is made, where, when, and by whom and when and how it will be used ... in the name of the people, of course.



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 08:58 AM
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a reply to: CraftyArrow



Hollywood went from telling us to vote to telling us who to
vote for.



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 08:59 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

is it really though , we are just taking a normal human behaviour and making into some political ideology , same with all ideologies we take normal observed human behaviours and then seek to divide mankind into political groups
by calling them political ideologies and you are team blue and you are team red, because you favour those normal behaviours over others .

Because joe prefers to rely on traditional values rather than adopting new practices
stan prefers to help the group out and share everything
Joe prefers to keep his tools to himself because he has his own work to get on with
Stan shares his tools because he thinks that if they get a job done together "Many hands make light work"
time saved for other work
Elis barn houses all the tribes grain

when in fact they are normal human behaviours

when we lived in tribes , we were actively engaged in socialism ,and what came from socialism in tribes , OH civilisation
so your story there about them owning tools , helping members of your tribe is considered normal behaviour
helping one member of your tribe is a benefit to the whole
Elis barn maybe his barn but his barns stores the grain for the whole village , which was collected by the whole village in order to ensure the crops were gathered before they wilted

Only then came along our concept of private ownership , another way to divide and control people
through religion and monarchy etc

Once more normal human behaviours are used to separate people into groups so they are easier to manipulate.

We have created these special little groups to divide us all over which human behaviours we align closely to.



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 09:09 AM
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I mean look at the evidence for homo sapiens sapiens

we have evolved to beocme social beings and work together in order to ensure our survival from our evolutionary past to our modern present

we needed to be socialist to surive , now we are top of the food chain sorry better yet , removed ourselves from the natural food chain, we no longer feel like we need the social / socialist aspect of our evolutionary path.

Probably the reason why we have so many political ideologies now , because there is no requirement for socialism in modern humans , we dont have to compete against predators or other hominids for food . We just compete against each other now . So what is the most obvious choice , you guessed it , to be self sufficient because everyone is your competition. So which political ideologies support the individual , obviously not socialism

we have been conditioned by a system of governance and materialism that puts emphasis on personal growth and wealth.
Its all about you and yours , not your neighbour your brother from another mother.

That is pretty sad , id rather help others than possibly force them to suffer via competition of resources .

Seems like all we do now is feed the ego for personal desires .
Rather than the path of pushing the whole species to greater things , all we care about is ourselves.



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 09:17 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Like look at the values of socialism , conservatism , liberalism , etc

these are things which every human does value in variance to a certain degree
we all can say that we do feel a personal connection to the values of specific ideologies.

but all political ideologies boil down to what happens with your money and and who and how much taxes you pay to
still supporting a system that is of itself broken completely

then the focus is entirely on the generation and accumulation of wealth
and that's it
all of these other values that the various ideologies seem to speak about are meaning less

sorry TL
R hahahaha.

Arent we all fed up of playing this game of my party is better than your party, (to government) here take my money whilst we argue among ourselves over which facade our government takes on next
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posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 09:30 AM
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Look again.

All of the things you list were by personal choice.

No government stepped in and compelled any of it. Socialism compels it. What if one year, Eli has a surplus of grain, and he decides that he will use part of it to increase his fields the next season, so he needs extra space in his barn to store the extra from his crops? It means that there will be less space for the rest of the villagers to store in his barn, but because it's his barn ... it's his decision and his choice. The others accept it and make different arrangements.

Under socialism, Eli has to ask the permission of the village council to use the surplus he grew to increase his fields. He h to ask their permission to use more space in the barn. And they get to decide if any of that is a good idea or if Eli's surplus will be put to other uses. Eli's preferences have no weight at all.


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posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 09:51 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Im talking about humans before we had government, before we had this broken system
when we lived in tribes

humans were inherently social animals , we needed to be social to survive

we are no longer in the natural order of things, and so have mostly abandoned the idea of social ideals
for the personal growth and welfare of your immediate families or yourself

there also appears to be a huge lack of empathy for your fellow humans now
something which is obvious given the distribution of wealth in our species.

because of our finite resources we are playing a zero sum game with our species
when those who take all the wealth and resources in a monopolisitic fashion we are left with the haves and have nots
and that means loss of life and loss of genetic diversity

its overall really bad for the species



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 11:19 AM
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originally posted by: Ironclad1964

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
I love the stupidity of this “I don’t like their politics so am not going to watch the movie I may otherwise enjoy”

I don’t agree with Kevin Spacey touching whoever he was inappropriately touching but baby driver was still a good movie.

Judge the movie based on its merits and not the politics of the lead female which you happen to disagree with.


Well this is what most people are doing..!!

These movies bomb because they are so centric on progressivism, that the story is given a back seat.

They are terrible in the first place and it isn't difficult at all to predict the ones that will fail because of advertised, overbearing inclusiveness that seems to take precedence over everything else.

Honestly, if they wrote a better script and kept a little continuity in the franchise, the progressive side would be tolerable.

As long as the story and continuity are given second fiddle to "wokness", movies from every genre will continue to fail at the box office.


Um...the movies are making CRAZY anounts of money!

Solo wasn't as big, but it also wasn't considered a "must" for Star Wars fans as a "standalone" film, not part of the "Skywalker Saga."
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posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 11:34 AM
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Solo lost money. You can't just say they make crazy money without looking at the costs involved in making and advertising.

Solo needed to gross $500 mil to break even but it didn't even break 400.

ROS will need to gross even more to break even. They have had so many reshoots that it has surly driven up the costs. There is a possibility that because of all the reshoots and problems that they will take a loss on ROS, but they have to do it because if this movie doesn't reignite the fan base the franchise will be close to done. They profited off the brand and nostalgia while botching the story. Now they are paying the price.



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 05:38 PM
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Arguably the last two Star Wars films in the new trilogy didnt stick. Audiences don’t appreciate being told they are flawed. I too work in entertainment and can say if you give someone a platform long enough, they will feel it’s their duty to preach their opinion and that because of their platform feeding their ego they must have the correct opinion.

Daisy does a fine job as Rey, but I don’t want to hear her talk about politics, tell me about the movie. Granted interviews too now wish to steer the narrative and will eat you alive if you aren’t on their script.

Actors don’t have any higher value when it comes to their opinion than anyone else, I don’t care to hear it.

a reply to: randomtangentsrme



posted on Dec, 12 2019 @ 05:45 PM
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Trump supporters are the most sensitive and thin-skinned people on the planet, you guys cry about everything...




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