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"Does Belief in QAnon Make You Legally Insane? Mob Hit Trial May Tell"

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posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 12:12 PM
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Well, this is interesting to say the least.
A young man, responsible for the assassination of a high profile mafia figure is "going rogue" and looks to be spilling the beans/tea about some of the inner workings of the supposed connections between organized crime stateside, the U.S. government, and mexican cartels.
Here's a snippet:

"Four days after pulling off the most high-profile mob killing in decades, Anthony Comello sat down with New York Police Department detectives and told them that the CIA had infiltrated the Mafia. And, he added, the government was spying on him.

He had put his phone in a copper bag to protect it from “satellites,” he told them, and Democratic operatives in Washington were doing business with Joaquín Guzmán Loera, the Mexican drug kingpin known as El Chapo."

He alludes to much more, i.e. The C.I.A. in bed with certain mafiosi as part of the agenda to remove Trump. Very weird and I have no clue what to think yet. Wouldnt surprise me though.
Your thoughts?

Source:

www.yahoo.com...

edit on 12Sun, 08 Dec 2019 12:12:59 -0600pmvAmerica/ChicagoSundayb201912America/Chicago by Gravelbone because: Typo




posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 12:18 PM
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posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 12:30 PM
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a reply to: dashen

😁
I had a feeling you would drop in.
Strange to say the least IMO.





posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 01:32 PM
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The article also states, "Most people who believe in conspiracy theories are sane and do not commit crimes." The headline here suggests believing in QAnon makes you insane. So how do you reconcile the two statements? The only logical conclusion here is that insane people can believe in QAnon, i.e.: QAnon is not the causitive factor here. Insanity came first. Of course, that begs the question if this guy is insane or not. He killed a mobster. Lots of sane people feel he has done us all a favor.



posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: schuyler

"theories are sane and do not commit crimes." The headline here suggests believing in QAnon makes you insane. So how do you reconcile the two statements? The only logical conclusion here is that insane people can believe in QAnon, i.e.: QAnon is not the causitive factor here. Insanity came first."

Try telling that to an insane person lol.
Quite formulaic when you think about it.
We can't have people going around, spouting off on teh interwebz with unbridled conspiracy theories.
At least not without a certified mental health screening.
I mean, that's an option, right?
🤔⏳




edit on 13Sun, 08 Dec 2019 13:40:57 -0600pmvAmerica/ChicagoSundayb201912America/Chicago by Gravelbone because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 01:47 PM
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If QAnon didn't make him crazy it certainly didn't help his mental state

It might be the only good thing the crock of QAnon will ever accomplish



posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 01:51 PM
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a reply to: Gravelbone

The title sure is misleading. Given the totality of circumstances, if anything, the mental illness caused him to believe murder was the appropriate action to take... it wasn't his belief in "Q" that caused him to commit murder. The vast majority of Q followers and Q watchers would NEVER commit murder.

And someone correct me if I'm wrong, but "Qanon" refers to the anons following Q, doesn't it? Not Q him(her)self?

The title sure wants the reader to infer, however, that simple "belief" is proof of insanity. What does that even mean exactly?

There is no doubt that posts are being made in the name of "Q"... so that's fact, not a "belief."

I'm sure lots of people of lots of different "beliefs" about who Q is; but since Q's identity isn't known, that's about all folks can have, right? So having a "belief" is not insane, but just the reality. Actually, folks trying to identify Q would be quite reasonable, so would point to the opposite of insanity.

I suppose some "beliefs" might be more likely than others, and I suppose some "beliefs" might be born more from a mental disorder than from Q's actual posts; but even then, the mental illness caused the "beliefs" about Q. It wasn't the beliefs about Q that caused the mental illness.



posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 01:53 PM
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originally posted by: Gravelbone
a reply to: schuyler

"theories are sane and do not commit crimes." The headline here suggests believing in QAnon makes you insane. So how do you reconcile the two statements? The only logical conclusion here is that insane people can believe in QAnon, i.e.: QAnon is not the causitive factor here. Insanity came first."

Try telling that to an insane person lol. Quite formulaic when you think about it.


Try telling that to his lawyer. The issue here is an attempt to deflect blame from the killer to QAnon and conspiracy theories. If the defense wins the case, that leaves the latter as the guilty parties. Taking it just a whisker further, "DOES ATS CAUSE INSANITY?" If it does, take it down. And BTW, anyone who has an account on ATS is also insane so we had better take precautions against them.
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posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 02:56 PM
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If WWII, the murder of JFK, Iran/Contra and so many more events, didn't convince you that the alphabet agencies are in cohoots with organized crime, well I just have no words.



posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 04:10 PM
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I don’t think Q Anon is the cause of his craziness, it’s more of a symptom. You have to have a basic break with reality in the first place to believe that Donald Trump is fighting a secret war against global Satanic Liberals.

I got a good laugh out of writing that just now. It’s apparent how crazy it all is when you actually type it out. I honestly just feel sorry for the people who have invested themselves at this point.



posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 05:07 PM
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originally posted by: DukeMisterio
If WWII, the murder of JFK, Iran/Contra and so many more events, didn't convince you that the alphabet agencies are in cohoots with organized crime, well I just have no words.


So you think so, and from your stars a lot of people agree with you. THAT'S NOT THE POINT HERE. The point is if this defense flies it's not this guy on trial who is guilty, it's YOUR crazy conspiracy theories that, if you continue to express them, prove you are insane. If this guy is voted insane (That's what it amounts to: A vote from the jury.) then YOU also are insane and must be watched more closely.



posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 05:49 PM
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a reply to: schuyler

I gave you stars for all your comments here...

I think you're right, the defense on this case could set a dangerous precedent.



posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 06:34 PM
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a reply to: Gravelbone

Poor dudes gonna end up Epsteined real quick.



posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 06:36 PM
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a reply to: Gravelbone

Insane is a stretch, gullible is a better description.



posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 06:58 PM
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Did the CIA infiltrate the mafia or did the mafia infiltrate the CIA? LOL



posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 07:14 PM
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a reply to: underwerks
For me, the question arises,'' just how in touch with reality are any of us for much of our races history.'' We like to think that as a whole we are zeroing in on it but as things are demonstrating now, that is questionable as well. By the state of our political divide it can appear that only half of us are while the other half are not. And how sane is that, to believe that the other half is insane? That is the question I have to ask.

How much of our history is wrapped up in fantasy stories believed to be the truth. Enough for me at least to question just how sane or in touch with reality my own thinking could be. It ain't easy. I do know though that my own best approach to this question is in questioning myself as much as i can without spinning off into nonsense, added to evaluating, as best I can, what I hear from others that seem to believe that they themselves have a tight hold on it all.



posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 07:15 PM
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a reply to: DukeMisterio

You ever hear of the "Business Plot" ?

How do we even know if these Alphabet agencies ( which according to google tranny Al Pha Bet means "The House") wasn't designed by those involved back then to do exactly what they are doing today. Which begs the question of :"has the al pha bet agencies been replace by al pha bet the company?"


Funny how the saying "The house always wins" isn't always true, since if it was people would stop betting against them and gambling houses would go out of business.



posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 07:46 PM
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originally posted by: Gravelbone
He alludes to much more, i.e. The C.I.A. in bed with certain mafiosi as part of the agenda to remove Trump. Very weird and I have no clue what to think yet. Wouldnt surprise me though. Your thoughts?

Get rid of the potentially/already rogue CIA, you wonder why the FBI hadn't challenged "Turf War infringement" years ago. Mafia, Pizza Parlors, John Podesta, child porn pepperoni codes..it is so intriguing. Epstein may hold the key after all.



posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 07:56 PM
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a reply to: Gravelbone

Just because someone believes a conspiracy theory that does not mean they are insane or a murderer, but over the centuries people who were insane and/or murderers have come to believe conspiracy theories. That being said even though someone might be insane doesn't necessarily mean that sometimes they can't be right about some things. I have thought the mob probably has people embedded in various alphabet agencies (or at least have people on their payroll) for a long time, and more than just a sprinkling of people suspect some members of our government are most likely "in bed" with the Mexican cartels.

I do think there will be a push to label anyone who believes various conspiracy theories insane (heck, they've already been pushing that idea for several years) and they will use the trial in an attempt to further that agenda.



posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 08:21 PM
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a reply to: GeauxHomeYoureDrunk

And it's effective too. Remember the whole comet pizza thing? That went away fast after a "Conspiracy Theorist" drove all the way to the joint and shot the place up (only hitting the computers hard drive though) Anyone question it was then labeled "Conspiracy Nut" and got ridiculed in public. Even when a reporter like Ben Swann showed how something could be behind the claims, everyone said "don't report that, it might trigger a shooting".

This whole thing sounds like it's that page from their playbook again.



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