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If Adam Schiff has Rudy Giuliani's phone records that means he likely has Trump's phone records

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posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 09:45 AM
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When Adam Schiff revealed that he had in his possession phone records of Rudy Giuliani Devin Nunes and others I think it's pretty obvious that those records would include Rudy giuliani's phone calls to Donald Trump. Being that Rudy is his personal attorney now those phone calls and Records would be classified under attorney-client privilege in my Reckoning.

Is this the way politics in America is going to work now.?
Only the left has the right to privacy?
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posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 09:50 AM
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This all reminds me of that childrens story, the emperors new clothes.



posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 09:53 AM
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Is this the way politics in America is going to work now.?


Sadly,

Disgustingly.

Yes.

Only the left has civil liberty rights.

The rest of us are just in the way.



posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 10:08 AM
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Trump Administration Asks Congress to Reauthorize N.S.A.’s Deactivated Call Records Program




The law, enacted after the intelligence contractor Edward J. Snowden revealed the existence of the program in 2013, is set to expire in December, but the Trump administration wants it made permanent.


Hmmm.... I don't think this Administration cares about anyone's privacy except their own. Playing the victim sure does help with PR though.
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posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 10:11 AM
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WASHINGTON — Breaking a long silence about a high-profile National Security Agency program that sifts records of Americans’ telephone calls and text messages in search of terrorists, the Trump administration on Thursday acknowledged for the first time that the system has been indefinitely shut down —but asked Congress to extend its legal basis anyway.


Right!

How dare Trump ask congress to spy on terrorists.

A 'King' would just do it.

Amiright?


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posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 10:12 AM
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Spy on Americans you mean, our phone records are the ones that are being looked through.

Quit deflecting from the fact that Trump wants the government to look at everyone's phone records, privacy be damned.
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posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 10:15 AM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Bringing that snip up after Pensecola.

Takes a lot of nerve.



posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 10:19 AM
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What are you talking about? What does Pensacola have to do with anything? Is this another one of your emotionally-based strawmen? You're good at those. I wasn't even close to thinking about Pensecola.

Since you bring it up, guess what nationality that guy was? Saudi Arabian. Guess whose involvement in 9/11 Trump's AG covered behind "state secrets" not too long ago? Guess what country we sold a bunch of weapons to?

Your appeal to emotion isn't working on me. It might work on a bunch of other people around here, but not me. I don't let emotion get in the way of logic.
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posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 10:20 AM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: neo96

Spy on Americans you mean, our phone records are the ones that are being looked through.

Quit deflecting from the fact that Trump wants the government to look at everyone's phone records, privacy be damned.


Pure deflection from you.
Do you think it's ok for Adam Schiff to obtain phone records of his political enemies or not?


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posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 10:21 AM
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Nope, I don't think it's right at all, but what's good for ther goose is good for the gander, right? What's with the double standards?

If this Administration cares about privacy then maybe they should stop acting like everyone else except there's is disposable. That would go a long way in helping me sympathize with him or anyone else associated with him.
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posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 10:25 AM
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What are you talking about? What does Pensacola have to do with anything?


nypost.com...

Go troll somewhere else.



posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 10:34 AM
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What does that article have to do with anyone's privacy exactly? I thought the topic here was privacy, not Pensecola. Your strawman-fu is slipping neo.

There's no trolling in bringing up a legitimate point about privacy. You just don't like the cognitive dissonance my post causes in your head so you label it "trolling". Nope, just you having a hard time accepting reality.



posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 10:36 AM
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Let me think.

Trolling a thread about Trump asking Congress to spy on terrorists.

Then followed a link about a TERRORIST ATTACK in Pensecola..

Schiff has clearly proven people have no right to privacy.

Especially the president,his lawyers, congressman themselves, and journalists.

Back to Orangeman bad.

Stop wasting my time with snip.



posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 10:47 AM
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The article was about spying on Americans in the "hope" of finding terrorists which is in line with the topic of the thread: privacy.

You're the one who brought Pensecola into the thread, not me or anyone else. But I'm sure there are some who will read your post and sincerely assume I'M the one who brought it up.

Is that your angle here neo? To mislead others about my posts?
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posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 10:54 AM
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posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 10:54 AM
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originally posted by: dashen
When Adam Schiff revealed that he had in his possession phone records of Rudy Giuliani Devin Nunes and others I think it's pretty obvious that those records would include Rudy giuliani's phone calls to Donald Trump. Being that Rudy is his personal attorney now those phone calls and Records would be classified under attorney-client privilege in my Reckoning.

Is this the way politics in America is going to work now.?
Only the left has the right to privacy?


I don’t think he has the contents of the calls, just the records of them. Things like the numbers called and the time they were called. Which could be helpful for putting together timelines etc.

Nothing is being violated by having records of the calls.



posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 11:00 AM
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I do believe it is much more likely that Trump and Rudy are thinking a few steps ahead of Schiff and Rudy would have called the operator switchboard (I think reported already) or somehow use another known or unknown technique to cover or mislead the phone logs or call recipients as it shows up in the "metadata". I mean if such techniques exist you would think Rudy has seen them and would employ them. Not in a criminal cover up way but in a way to discredit Schiff and lead him down a dead end path. This is a game of cat and mouse at the highest level, it would surprise me if they have not considered all possibilities and phone records would have to be on that list of consideration.

Whenever someone has too much anger or disdain for another it will always skew their judgement, we see it all the time in sports, business and politics. Schiff, his staff and the lawyer types we saw testify the other day are operating with some major blindspots and I believe this will lead to their downfall.




originally posted by: dashen
When Adam Schiff revealed that he had in his possession phone records of Rudy Giuliani Devin Nunes and others I think it's pretty obvious that those records would include Rudy giuliani's phone calls to Donald Trump. Being that Rudy is his personal attorney now those phone calls and Records would be classified under attorney-client privilege in my Reckoning.

Is this the way politics in America is going to work now.?
Only the left has the right to privacy?

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posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 11:03 AM
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Schiff, his staff and the lawyer types we saw testify the other day are operating with some major blindspots and I believe this will lead to their downfall.


I'm hoping for a Schiff,Nadler,Pelosi impeachment after November.



posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 11:19 AM
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Fact is, there wasnt a National Security issue involved with Lev Panas, so they didnt have due cause to run a NSL (national security letter) to authorize obtaining meta data in this situation.

Schiff and the Dem clown show doubled down on spying on citizens, only the NSL doesnt require a judge to sign off on it...

oddly enough, this flies in the face of what Obama said about meta data being collected NOT being an invasion of privacy!
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posted on Dec, 8 2019 @ 11:22 AM
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Only the left has the right to privacy?


According to Trump and Obama, no one has a right to privacy anymore. That NSA surveillance operation is proof of that.

Trading privacy for security? Hell yeah! That's NEVER gone wrong before. Right?

Who cares about our own privacy? Let's trade defending our own privacy for defending a billionaire politician's privacy! He cares about us, that's why he wants the NSA to spy on us indefinitely.

Sad world when we care about a politician's privacy more than our own. But that's clown world for you.
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