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posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 06:21 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: strongfp


What's your point? Notice the difference between how Obama handled the downfall and how Trump is? I bet you can't with your dissonance towards the subject.


Obama was handed an economy that Democratic policies caused and managed to take a 18-21 month recession and make it last 8 years while telling everyone that America was in a permanent decline and he was just there to manage the decline.

Trump took the same and here we are.

So yes, there is a HUGE difference between how Obama and Trump handled the economy.



The US is in longest period of continued growth recorded, the majority of which was under Obama.

Not sure how that is making a recession last 8 years.

Trump so far has kept the economy going well but it is very much built on trends that started long before he became president.




Did you type that with a straight face?

Just.... LOL

So what policies did Democrats enact that started this amazing growth?

Or do you just mean that enough people fell off of unemployment and started getting food stamps that the unemployment numbers went down under Obama?

Because Obama added 13 million people to the food stamps roster.

The number of people in poverty rose 6 million under Obama.

But yea... this is Obama's economy we are seeing now.

/facepalm




posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 06:22 PM
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originally posted by: pavil
This sums up Democrats today.

Enjoy.

Link



Awesome. I immediately sent the link to one of my easily triggered friends.



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 06:26 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

See one of my above replies concerning how trump handles it.



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 06:26 PM
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More people are having to work 2 jobs now, just to get by. MAGA


www.wsj.com...

www.forbes.com...



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 06:26 PM
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originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: strongfp


What's your point? Notice the difference between how Obama handled the downfall and how Trump is? I bet you can't with your dissonance towards the subject.


Obama was handed an economy that Democratic policies caused and managed to take a 18-21 month recession and make it last 8 years while telling everyone that America was in a permanent decline and he was just there to manage the decline.

Trump took the same and here we are.

So yes, there is a HUGE difference between how Obama and Trump handled the economy.



The US is in longest period of continued growth recorded, the majority of which was under Obama.

Not sure how that is making a recession last 8 years.

Trump so far has kept the economy going well but it is very much built on trends that started long before he became president.




Did you type that with a straight face?

Just.... LOL

So what policies did Democrats enact that started this amazing growth?

Or do you just mean that enough people fell off of unemployment and started getting food stamps that the unemployment numbers went down under Obama?

Because Obama added 13 million people to the food stamps roster.

The number of people in poverty rose 6 million under Obama.

But yea... this is Obama's economy we are seeing now.

/facepalm


Obama inherited the worst economic downturn since the great depression.

He passed on an economy with ( at the time) the second longest period of economic growth recorded.

I dont think Obama did a great job on the economy But the idea that there has been a major economic turnaround under Trump is simply false.



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 06:29 PM
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a reply to: strongfp

Do you think taking jobs that are becoming more available in healthcare, service, hospitality or any other sector of manufacturing sector is bad ?

Is your only concern with factory jobs which would naturally be down because of the tariffs battle ?

It seems that you are making your case on only one small part of the jobs market in an attempt to prove the whole economy is bad .

Here’s a list of jobs in the manufacturing sector .

Food, Beverage, and Tobacco
Textiles, Leather, and Apparel
Wood, Paper, and Printing
Petroleum, Coal, Chemicals, Plastics​, and Rubber
Nonmetallic Mineral
Primary Metal, Fabricated Metal, and Machinery
Computer and Electronics
Electrical Equipment, Appliances, and Components
Transportation
Furniture
Miscellaneous Manufacturing
Welders, Cutters, Solderers
Woodworkers

This is from an earlier link


Manufacturing added a total of 54,000 jobs, even though factory activity has declined in each of the past four months.


The gains in all the categories except miscellaneous manufacturing don’t spell doom and gloom for the US economy because there are many other jobs to choose from .


One more thing to add. When Trump wins the tariff battle what do you think is going to happen ?!
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posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 06:50 PM
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originally posted by: Mach2
Obama: Jobs are not coming back. Live with it. America isn't special.

Trump: Not only is the economy fixable, it's suatainable. MAGA!

One more nail in the coffin the dims built for themselves.

Bringing jobs back is racist. #ChineseLivesMatter



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 06:51 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

Your first link is from 2018, and the average work week for Americans is arou d 35 hours. So if you're working 2 jobs and only 35 hours, so they're either doing that for scheduling reasons, or they just don't want to work either job full time. But the point is just because someone works 2 jobs does not mean that they are working 80 hours a week to survive. I'm sure some people do, but I think it's rare.



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 06:53 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: strongfp


What's your point? Notice the difference between how Obama handled the downfall and how Trump is? I bet you can't with your dissonance towards the subject.


Obama was handed an economy that Democratic policies caused and managed to take a 18-21 month recession and make it last 8 years while telling everyone that America was in a permanent decline and he was just there to manage the decline.

Trump took the same and here we are.

So yes, there is a HUGE difference between how Obama and Trump handled the economy.



The US is in longest period of continued growth recorded, the majority of which was under Obama.

Not sure how that is making a recession last 8 years.

Trump so far has kept the economy going well but it is very much built on trends that started long before he became president.




Did you type that with a straight face?

Just.... LOL

So what policies did Democrats enact that started this amazing growth?

Or do you just mean that enough people fell off of unemployment and started getting food stamps that the unemployment numbers went down under Obama?

Because Obama added 13 million people to the food stamps roster.

The number of people in poverty rose 6 million under Obama.

But yea... this is Obama's economy we are seeing now.

/facepalm


Obama inherited the worst economic downturn since the great depression.

He passed on an economy with ( at the time) the second longest period of economic growth recorded.

I dont think Obama did a great job on the economy But the idea that there has been a major economic turnaround under Trump is simply false.




There is always a big recovery after recessions. Obama's recovery is the worst in US history. Dead last worst.

The right measure and comparison for Obama’s record is not to compare the recovery to the recession, but to compare Obama’s recovery with other recoveries from other recessions since the Great Depression. By that measure, what is clear is that Obamanomics has produced the worst recovery from a recession since the Great Depression, worse than what every other President who has faced a recession has achieved since the Great Depression.

www.forbes.com...



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 07:06 PM
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a reply to: Fallingdown

Pfft...jobs don't matter, if it means crediting President Trump.




posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 07:21 PM
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a reply to: Fallingdown

The tariff battle is just another nail in the coffin. It's not a win, win situation for humanity. It's only a win for America. See how dangerous nationalism and protectionism is?



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 07:26 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Fallingdown

The tariff battle is just another nail in the coffin. It's not a win, win situation for humanity. It's only a win for America. See how dangerous nationalism and protectionism is?

Yeah you are right America should only care about the global economy even if ours is destroyed. Tell you what, you start demanding all the jobs in Canada get sent to other countries and then come talk to me.

Stupidest comment of the day.
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posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 07:29 PM
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a reply to: strongfp
I’ll take the win after decades of losing to absorbent tariffs on our goods.

Come to the table and negotiate in good faith then nobody loses .
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posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 07:34 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I don't see Britain whining and complaining after their industrial sector was destroyed. Stop whining. And stop bringing the rest of us down with you because you want your factory jobs back.

The US is literally capitalism in decay. It's a bitter sweet feeling to watch it fall really.



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 07:36 PM
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a reply to: Fallingdown

Yup, just like Germany in the 30s was to Europe, screw everyone else. How did that end up? 7 billion on this planet, the US drives the majority of that economy, take it or leave it. Make us your bitch or let us free, don't play games.



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 07:38 PM
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a reply to: pavil

The manufacturing sector was hit the hardest in the 2008 recession, what did you expect? It's like jobs were leaving in droves or something for cheaper labor... wow it's like capitalists were playing the free market like it was intended ...



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 07:47 PM
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a reply to: strongfp

Haha other countries did not complain as they were bent over and raped so neither should America.

When you ship every single Canadian job overseas to help the global economy let me know. Just because you refuse to fight for your future doesn't mean America won't.



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 07:50 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

You champion capitalism, yet you want socialism and borderline fascism. What a joke.



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 08:14 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

You champion capitalism, yet you want socialism and borderline fascism. What a joke.

You made a stupid comment, yet you did not learn and did it again. Just because you don't care about your countries economy doesn't mean the rest of the world shouldn't. Sorry.



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 08:18 PM
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a reply to: strongfp


Manufacturing continued to grow last month, adding 31,000 jobs: 8,000 in machinery, 7,000 in metal products, 4,000 in computer goods and 4,000 in plastic and rubber wares. That’s on top of 24,000 new manufacturing positions created in October after no growth in September.

www.washingtonpost.com...




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