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Doubts raised after Schiff claims phone records prove Giuliani’s White House budget office calls

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posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 12:14 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04




How do you not know? Literally everyone except that aide says the number is not the OMB. It's a switchboard number, fact.


Uh huh. It's a White House switchboard, and the White House keeps records of all calls. So, when someone in, let's say an OMB office, picks up a phone to dial out, or ask the operator to dial out for them, there is a record of what phone, in which office is dialing out, or being connected to incoming calls.

It's not a total mystery.
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posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 12:19 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

And you have those records? Who then callled Rudy? Name names please.

Should be easy to prove.

And what exactly is this going to prove? Wasting your energy on this, IMO.

Im sure this revalation will have the Senate Convict Trump.



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 12:27 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04




people familiar with the phone records said, making it difficult to tell whose desk it came from.


Making it difficult, but not impossible.

It seems that the House Intelligence Committee did some sleuthing, comparing public records with the call codes, and determined that the call was "associated with the OMB".

a reply to: pavil
No, I don't have the records, personally. But I know how switchboards work, and there are unique pathways to each connected phone.



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 12:29 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha


It's a White House switchboard, and the White House keeps records of all calls.

While that is certainly possible, I would like to see some proof that all calls are logged. It wouldn't be very practical.

Important state calls would be monitored, but we're talking about a series of calls to a private citizen, not calls to other heads of state. Now, maybe there is a log of the intern in office 237b calling Steak-Out to order lunch at 12:37 PM on August 17th, 2018, but I need someone other than a biased Internet poster to verify that.

In other words, got a link?

TheRedneck



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 12:29 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Adam Schiff doesn't realize it, but he has just entered...………….The Twilight Zone.



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 12:32 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: OccamsRazor04




people familiar with the phone records said, making it difficult to tell whose desk it came from.


Making it difficult, but not impossible.

It seems that the House Intelligence Committee did some sleuthing, comparing public records with the call codes, and determined that the call was "associated with the OMB".

a reply to: pavil
No, I don't have the records, personally. But I know how switchboards work, and there are unique pathways to each connected phone.


No, it doesn't appear that way. It's a switchboard that goes to MANY different places, including the OMB. Because it CAN go to the OMB, they said that is where it went. Why are you commenting without reading? All of this is in the articles I posted. Democrats have zero evidence Rudy called the OMB, yet claimed he did.



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 12:32 PM
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a reply to: network dude

Yep, they don't "understand the truth," which is why most are supporting a bunch of socialist clowns on the Democratic ticket. They're blinded by hate and their reasoning capabilities have been corrupted by the fake stories and BS they read and hear on MSM.




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posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 12:34 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

The Democrats released the number they have, and it is only the switchboard. The switchboard number is their proof, and somehow you are defending them, it's hilarious.



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 12:44 PM
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Of course people.

Didn't you know ?

When in the middle of shaking down a foreign leader you always call a switchboard to be put through.




posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 12:48 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha



It seems that the House Intelligence Committee did some sleuthing, comparing public records with the call codes, and determined that the call was "associated with the OMB".


Some sleuthing....using directories available to public as your claimed proof.


Reddit does a better job of
Investigating honestly.



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 12:48 PM
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Dbl Tap. Sorry


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posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 12:53 PM
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originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: Sookiechacha



It seems that the House Intelligence Committee did some sleuthing, comparing public records with the call codes, and determined that the call was "associated with the OMB".


Some sleuthing....using directories available to public as your claimed proof.


Reddit does a better job of
Investigating honestly.


Keywords: It seems. That translates into Sookie is making that up as her way of justifying the Democrats coming to this conclusion. The sleuthing does not exist anywhere outside her mind.



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 01:24 PM
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originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

this phone record thing might be a goldmine. Since all you have to do is call ATT and tell them you are important, and they will release the info, why not get Schiff's records and "the whistleblower" records, and see if anything lines up.

Maybe Jim Jordan could make a call. He is on some important committees.



Jordan should accused Adam Schiff of colluding with Donald Trump. In the face of such a bombshell, Schiff would rabidly order all records available for Adam Schiff to try and bring down the President once and for all. Imagine the look on Adam Schiff's face when the phone records of possible Trump conspirator and confidant Adam Schiff's phone records show numerous calls between he and the whistleblower, calls between Schiff and Moscow, calls between Schiff and tertiary lines within the White House, and of course a number of calls from Adam Schiff to the switchboard at the Standard Hotel.



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 01:32 PM
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We already know of one call by Russia by people pretending to be Ukrainian.


www.realclearpolitics.com...

Good enough for a senate report.


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posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 01:33 PM
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No, it doesn't appear that way. It's a switchboard that goes to MANY different places, including the OMB. Because it CAN go to the OMB, they said that is where it went.


And, my emails can go to, or come from, many places. But, there are addresses and IPs that track my emails and computer hits. Do you think the White House is so unorganized that it doesn't know where its switchboard is connecting?


Much of the damning information comes in the form of phone records. According to logs obtained by the committee from AT&T, Giuliani was in extremely frequent communication with the White House, specifically the Office of Management and Budget, where acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney, of Ukraine “drug deal” fame, is still director. For instance, Giuliani spoke with unidentified individuals at OMB and the White House on April 12, 23, and 24. An OMB call on the latter date lasted over 13 minutes and occurred just one day before Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch was told to return from Kiev.

www.vanityfair.com...



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 02:04 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: OccamsRazor04




How do you not know? Literally everyone except that aide says the number is not the OMB. It's a switchboard number, fact.


Uh huh. It's a White House switchboard, and the White House keeps records of all calls. So, when someone in, let's say an OMB office, picks up a phone to dial out, or ask the operator to dial out for them, there is a record of what phone, in which office is dialing out, or being connected to incoming calls.

It's not a total mystery.


this should be easy. Just show the records and you win. Otherwise, you loose. Bigley.



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 02:11 PM
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Why do you keep posting the same lie about the OMB. It has been proven there is zero evidence of any call to the OMB. That Vanity Fair article is fake news saying it was the OMB because a Democrat aide looked up a public directory and saw the number goes to NUMEROUS places, of which the OMB is one, and decided it went to the OMB with zero evidence of it.

At this point you are repeating a lie, you are lying every time you say it now that you know the truth.



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 02:16 PM
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How is this guy still in his position? It's absolutely insane!



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 02:28 PM
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Phones calls don't prove anything. If that were the case anybody who called Russia from the US in 2016 would be GUILTY.

Dumb and stupid. It's not the call. It was what was said in the call. He does not have that access because that would be illegal to listen to phone calls of innocent people without a warrant. If he had access to phone conversations of innocent people without a warrant that would be a crime.



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 03:03 PM
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originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
Phones calls don't prove anything. If that were the case anybody who called Russia from the US in 2016 would be GUILTY.

Dumb and stupid. It's not the call. It was what was said in the call. He does not have that access because that would be illegal to listen to phone calls of innocent people without a warrant. If he had access to phone conversations of innocent people without a warrant that would be a crime.


Hm. Maybe he should have gotten a FISA warrant?



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