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Ban "Assault rifles!" Liberal Politicians Fear Violent Uprising by Americans.

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posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 07:42 PM
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1776 II, the electric boogaloo!




posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 07:46 PM
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a reply to: ChefFox

Good they should fear a violent uprising , they should fear it down to there very bones.

As a government should fear there people , not the other way around. The only tool we have left is our right to own firearms. The violence that comes with our countries gunlaws in extremely unfortunate, but we must choose between the lesser of two evils because not having the right to pocess firearms would be much worse than having the right.

If our right to bare arms was taken our government would trample us with what ever laws and regulations they please and there wouldn't be a damn thing we could do about it. Gun violence is terrible, but tyranny is worse.
edit on 5-12-2019 by asabuvsobelow because: mispell



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 07:47 PM
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originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: ChefFox

A quick look at the statistics of deaths by firearm can pretty much debunk everything you wrote.

America is the gun death capital of the world.


Nope. Only if you are a simpleton and dont understand basic stats


The stats are: more people are killed by firearms in one year, in America, than in one year in any other country in the world.

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posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 07:50 PM
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originally posted by: ChefFox
a reply to: chr0naut



America is the gun death capital of the world.


Not really unless you are counting out Brazil. But do again just please go ahead and ban weapon and see that banning has zero effects on the actual gun violence.


It has in civilized countries. It probably wouldn't in the US.




posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 07:54 PM
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It has in civilized countries. It probably wouldn't in the US.
a reply to: chr0naut

No it wouldn't , and the reason is simple . Most of the guns used in violent attacks are obtained illegally in the first place.

Putting laws in place would simply place the weapons in the hands of law enforcement and criminals only, normal civilians would be at the mercy of the armed criminals.



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 07:59 PM
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Aside from the absolute carnage of trying to take them, for sake of argument it was successfully completed. No guns in the hands of US citizens. And we will ignore the easy accessibility to military firearms in unguarded armories around the country because it would spoil the disarmament fantasy.

This six year old article is kinda hard to ignore

Take them all. We have the technology to replace them.



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 08:03 PM
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originally posted by: Ahabstar
Aside from the absolute carnage of trying to take them, for sake of argument it was successfully completed. No guns in the hands of US citizens. And we will ignore the easy accessibility to military firearms in unguarded armories around the country because it would spoil the disarmament fantasy.

This six year old article is kinda hard to ignore

Take them all. We have the technology to replace them.


Have you ever used a 3D printer?

I'd never load a bullet into something that was printed into a commercially available 3D printer. It'd blow up in your face more times than not.

And, a Selective Laser Sintering 3D printer costs over $5,000 and wouldn't be able to print with the resolution to produce the barrel smooth enough to fire a bullet through, nor would it be able to create anything longer than 200 mm (7 inches).

An SLS Printer that could produce a gun would probably cost more than $20,000 (and I'm fairly sure the government would know you had one and would keep track of what you use it for).


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posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 08:04 PM
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a reply to: ChefFox

What about a liberal professors who are poisoning the minds of our children?



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 08:06 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: ChefFox

A quick look at the statistics of deaths by firearm can pretty much debunk everything you wrote.

America is the gun death capital of the world.


BULL...SH#!!!

That's completely inaccurate and complete LIE!!

I read most posts, but after this one...you will be skipped in the future!

Complete BS!!! Absolutely COMPLETE BS!!



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 08:06 PM
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originally posted by: asabuvsobelow



It has in civilized countries. It probably wouldn't in the US.
a reply to: chr0naut

No it wouldn't , and the reason is simple . Most of the guns used in violent attacks are obtained illegally in the first place.

Putting laws in place would simply place the weapons in the hands of law enforcement and criminals only, normal civilians would be at the mercy of the armed criminals.


...and this is why the cities with the strictest gun laws (Chicago, DC, Baltimore) are the ones with the highest crime rates. What does a robber care about gun laws? He's probably been in & out of jail since he was a teen, and cannot legally own so much as a taser. His weapon is illegal under any circumstances.



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 08:11 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

Product testing and quality assurance is your friend.

Also you would have an easier time finding and removing the currently owned firearms than figuring out where all the lathes and CNC machines are in the country. If you can’t wait on the 3D metal printer. Especially since you can make shop tools from scratch as well. Used to be detailed how to books around.



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 08:27 PM
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a reply to: ChefFox

and who, pray tell, will you, or the violent uprising of americans, target?

random politicians?
the police?

this is why a violent uprising will never occur. you have no clear targets.

also, if you did just start randomly shooting politicians or the police, you would be put down as a terrorist long before your movement could gain traction.

youre out gunned, out manned, out planned, and out trained in every single way.



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 08:27 PM
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a reply to: Quantumgamer1776

Yeah, it was a one time study and did not include half the country, let alone all of it. Further, your own source says:


My own preliminary conclusions:
1) We still don’t really know how many defensive gun uses (DGUs) there are each year.



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 08:31 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: ChefFox

A quick look at the statistics of deaths by firearm can pretty much debunk everything you wrote.

America is the gun death capital of the world.


Nope. Only if you are a simpleton and dont understand basic stats


The stats are: more people are killed by firearms in one year, in America, than in one year in any other country in the world.


False...

First off, you don't count suicides because people are going to kill themselves regardless. The US is like 34 on the list of countries with the highest suicide rates even though many other countries have limited access to firearms. That alone should tell you guns aren't really the issue.

Second, simply stating more gun deaths doesn't tell you anything without getting into the demographics of the country and perpetrators.

Daily gun violence in America is largely an urban phenomenon among the black community specifically. This comprises the vast majority of gun homicides. If you look at the poster child of gun violence, Chicago, of the 467 deaths YTD, 375 are black. 62 are hispanic. So 92% of all murders are black and hispanic.

This distribution pretty much mirrors most major cities - atlanta, houston, baltimore, st. louis, LA, etc.

If you were to strip out all the black/ hispanic gun deaths, I'd posit the US would be on par or lower with European countries. The on thing those countries don't have is the large poor black and hispanic populations with gang culture that we have. Nearly all of the gun violence in these communities is committed with illegally owned firearms.

Mass shootings like Parkland, Columbine, etc are still exceedingly rare despite the incessant news coverage.

More people are beat to death than are killed with rifles of any kind. The feared AR-15 is basically a rounding error in gun death stats, yet leftist gun grabbers can't stop wanting to ban "assault" weapons. Only about 300 people a year are killed with a rife of ANY KIND. Handguns are the real issue.

We can't have an honest and open debate about this issue because those on the left refuse to even educate themselves on basic facts about guns and the demographics. You can't talk guns with people who think bullets fly around corners...



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 08:40 PM
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originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow



It has in civilized countries. It probably wouldn't in the US.
a reply to: chr0naut

No it wouldn't , and the reason is simple . Most of the guns used in violent attacks are obtained illegally in the first place.

Putting laws in place would simply place the weapons in the hands of law enforcement and criminals only, normal civilians would be at the mercy of the armed criminals.


...and this is why the cities with the strictest gun laws (Chicago, DC, Baltimore) are the ones with the highest crime rates. What does a robber care about gun laws? He's probably been in & out of jail since he was a teen, and cannot legally own so much as a taser. His weapon is illegal under any circumstances.


Free travel sort of messes with local gun laws. Besides, they are all still in the US. It doesn't invalidate what I said in any way.



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 08:49 PM
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a reply to: stormson




and who, pray tell, will you, or the violent uprising of americans, target?

random politicians?
the police?

this is why a violent uprising will never occur. you have no clear targets.

also, if you did just start randomly shooting politicians or the police, you would be put down as a terrorist long before your movement could gain traction.

youre out gunned, out manned, out planned, and out trained in every single way.


While you are quite right about us being out gunned and out trained .

You say these things while making two grand assumptions, you assume the will of the people to be weak and you assume that the armed forces of this country would turn there weapons on there own citizenry simply because they were ordered to.

I think your assuming a bit much my friend.



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 08:55 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow



It has in civilized countries. It probably wouldn't in the US.
a reply to: chr0naut

No it wouldn't , and the reason is simple . Most of the guns used in violent attacks are obtained illegally in the first place.

Putting laws in place would simply place the weapons in the hands of law enforcement and criminals only, normal civilians would be at the mercy of the armed criminals.


...and this is why the cities with the strictest gun laws (Chicago, DC, Baltimore) are the ones with the highest crime rates. What does a robber care about gun laws? He's probably been in & out of jail since he was a teen, and cannot legally own so much as a taser. His weapon is illegal under any circumstances.


Free travel sort of messes with local gun laws. Besides, they are all still in the US. It doesn't invalidate what I said in any way.


The problem with that logic (or lack thereof) is that if guns were the issue, then you'd expect to see gun violence in areas with easy access to guns regardless of demographics. The reality is you don't. States like Vermont have fairly lax gun laws and high gun ownership, yet gun violence is some of the lowest in the country. Why? Mostly wealthy, rural, and white. Little to no poor urban black and hispanic gangs.

Chicago has some of the toughest gun laws in the country. There isn't a single operating gun store in the city of Chicago. Yet some how, the streets are over run with gun violence that we call it Chiraq. On the other hand, you go into the suburbs with gun stores on every corner and a rough day for a cop is getting a cat out of a tree.



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 08:57 PM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: ChefFox

A quick look at the statistics of deaths by firearm can pretty much debunk everything you wrote.

America is the gun death capital of the world.


BULL...SH#!!!

That's completely inaccurate and complete LIE!!

I read most posts, but after this one...you will be skipped in the future!

Complete BS!!! Absolutely COMPLETE BS!!


Yeah, you are right. The US isn't the absolute worst. It is all of the America's that are the worst. The US itself (with 40,175 deaths in 2019) is only the second worst, after Brasil (with 46,215 deaths in 2019).

Come on guys, there's still some of 2019 left and only 6,040 could get you the 'winning' spot! - but seriously, it's not a good thing to win first in this one.

'Murricah...

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posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 09:01 PM
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originally posted by: asabuvsobelow



It has in civilized countries. It probably wouldn't in the US.
a reply to: chr0naut

No it wouldn't , and the reason is simple . Most of the guns used in violent attacks are obtained illegally in the first place.

Putting laws in place would simply place the weapons in the hands of law enforcement and criminals only, normal civilians would be at the mercy of the armed criminals.


Or US law enforcement.

Scary!




posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 09:04 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated
Exactly. I live in a small town of about 5000. There are more guns here than where I grew up in the ghetto, yet gun crime here is almost non-existent, unlike the St. Louis ghettos.




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