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posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 09:54 AM
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a reply to: Alien Abduct



What I meant was it wouldn't be a sham to dismiss a sham. How could it be?

The official process is not a sham.
The way the house dems have conducted such and the reason for such, imo, is and continues to be.
Since they have invoked the process, it is legal and constitutional process.
For the senate gop to follow suit and dismiss the process in less than the manor required, imo, would also be a sham.
Sadly, I think the senate trial will open a can of worms the house dems, or the nation in general, don't want to see.
From the beginning of this process with the "whistleblower" getting leaked classified information, the "whistleblower" contacting schiff prior to filing the paperwork, to schiff lying from his chair and later calling it "parody"; the denied participation of the minority party; and the yet to be reveal articles which may not actually contain any real crime; it has mocked the process imo.
How any fair minded person can't see the issues with this process is beyond me.




posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 09:54 AM
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They're going to bring up Mueller. In their bull crap articles.

They are going to throw everything they can at him.

Which isn't any different than the last three years.

Which means the Senate can bring up the Ig report.



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 09:56 AM
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a reply to: silo13


That the President DID want Biden's BS 'looked into', if nothing else proves the President wants corruption gone from wherever, or whatever source.


That's the key here. No one can prove that Trump asking for corruption to be investigated is for personal gain over fulfilling yet another one of his 2016 campaign promises to do just that. Personally, I have replied to many of his surveys stating that "draining the swamp" was my top priority over any other issue. If corruption isn't dealt with, then we can not expect that Congress will implement any laws they pass that they don't like. It's already been proven in the past when a visa tracking program to track illegal immigrants over 20 years was never implemented.



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 09:56 AM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Sillyolme

Skimpy OP, Silly.

Direct question to you:
Do you think THIS is finally gonna bring down Trump?





In her fantasies the answer is probably yes,in reality the answer is no!



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 10:02 AM
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All I can say, is that this impeachment sham will lose it's luster once the IG Report is released on Monday, along with the soon to be released Durham report.

Trouble is, how much coverage will MSM give it? Well, since MSM is the propaganda machine of The Democratic Party, my guess is that it won't be much.

However, the legal ramifications of those upcoming reports, will soon make this impeachment effort a moot point.



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 10:03 AM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny

Don't worry.

ATS WILL be talking about them.

Even if real journalists won't be.



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 10:04 AM
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Nancy is so remarkably full of sh*t when she speaks.... I feel sorry for anyone who believes her nonsense... People like Nancy is why we need Term Limits in Congress.



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 10:05 AM
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a reply to: neo96

Hell yeah!



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: jhn7537

If any good comes out of the lefts Fascism.

Enstating term limits and ending congressional immunity should be at the top of the list.
edit on 5-12-2019 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 10:08 AM
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a reply to: neo96

That is a very good idea about a media blackout during the trial.
We all know that the media usually has a biased opinion that may
confuse the average person.



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 10:09 AM
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a reply to: mamabeth

Real courts of law have them.

They also sequester.


edit on 5-12-2019 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 10:11 AM
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Sure is a lot of scrambling before Dec. 9th.

Let's see if they try to ram it through in the next few days.



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 10:12 AM
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a reply to: RickinVa

They took two months off during this farce.

Everything has been by design.



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 10:16 AM
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a reply to: neo96

How cute. You actually think Republican members of Congress would vote against their own self-interests.



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 10:17 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

It is in their self interest to stop this snip.



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 10:31 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Thank you for the votes Nancy.



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: silo13
a reply to: Sillyolme


charging him with betraying his oath of office and the nation’s security by seeking to enlist a foreign power to tarnish a rival for his own political gain.


Once again this crap ^^^

IF President Trump knew Biden was strong arming (blackmailing) the Ukraine (and Biden admitted as much) but our President DIDN'T ask the Ukraine to 'look into' Biden (because the President was worried about how it might effect the next election) THAT would be a crime(?), (that he turned a blind eye to corruption).

That the President DID want Biden's BS 'looked into', if nothing else proves the President wants corruption gone from wherever, or whatever source.

Nancy's nothing other than a Soros doormat. What a tool.

So - what's the reason for this 'Impeach' season now? What exactly did our President do? Hmmm?


Here's the problem with that line of reasoning, as I see it. Joe Biden is a US citizen. IF you (or the President) suspect that Joe was blackmailing the Ukrainian government to protect his son's cushy job, then that would potentially have been an abuse of Biden's office of Vice President--using official power for a personal gain. (Exactly the kind of abuse that Trump is being accused of in the impeachment trial). There are actually a couple of perfectly legal ways of prosecuting that suspicion. Back when Biden was still Vice President, Congress could have brought impeachment charges against him. After he was no longer VP, President Trump could have referred his case to the FBI. The FBI is required to investigate referrals from high government offices like POTUS or Congress. As far as we know, Trump did not follow that legal route or, if he did, it didn't lead anywhere.

Instead, he did a couple of illogical things. First, he asked the Ukrainians to investigate Joe Biden. That makes no sense at all. If Joe abused the power of his office, that would be a potential crime under US law. A Ukrainian prosecutor has absolutely no authority or responsibility under Ukrainian law to investigate a US citizen for breaking a US law. A Ukrainian prosecutor also would have no legal standing in the US justice system to bring a case against Joe Biden even if he did find some wrong doing. So, asking the Ukrainians to investigate Joe Biden has no legally meaningful purpose. Because it has no legally meaningful purpose, it would seem that Trump had some other kind of purpose in mind.

Second, if you suspect that Joe Biden abused his office by using an official act to try to preserve his son's cushy job, that would be an example of US corruption, NOT Ukrainian corruption. Let's face it, that's the whole point--for Trump to be able to claim that Joe Biden is corrupt during the upcoming campaign year. Trump wants to run the same game plan in 2020 that he ran in 2016 because he thinks it worked pretty well for him. He wants to replace "crooked Hillary" with "crooked Joe". It makes absolutely no sense at all to withhold aid to Ukraine on the pretense that you're worried about Ukrainian corruption, when the thing you want them to investigate would actually be an example of US corruption. Because Trump's reasoning here makes no logical sense, it once again seems that Trump had some ulterior motive in mind.



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 10:38 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

This article was published Sept 24 and updated on Nov 20.

It's December 5.

Are you silly or just trolling?




posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: MarkOfTheV

This could be an oversight on her part and she didn't notice it.



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 10:50 AM
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funny how the dems changed their minds since clintons failed impeachment

"Pelosi, 1998: "Today the Republican majority is not judging the President with fairness but impeaching him with a vengeance...the Republicans in the house are paralyzed with hatred of President Clinton.”

Schumer, 1998: “I expect that history will show that we’ve lowered the bar on impeachment so much. My fear is when a Republican wins the White House, Democrats will demand payback.”

Maxine Waters: “They hate Bill and Hillary Clinton so much they will stop at nothing to bring him down.”""



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