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Impeachment Investigators Got Rudy Giuliani's Phone Records

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posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 12:49 PM
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Hmmm, warrants...

Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


I would be curious to see who had probable cause under oath or affirmation that could particularly describe what they expected to find in the phone records. In fact I would say that falls under a matter of the public interest at this point, who thought there was evidence of illegal activity over the phone.




posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 12:52 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: ketsuko

Parnas called Nunes earlier in the day on April 12. That is the one minute call. Nunes then tried to return the call twice. These are the two second and zero second calls. Parnas then got back to Nunes that same day and they had a conversation that lasted almost nine minutes.

That same day Parnas also had conversations with Giuliani and Solomon.


Huh ... so again, why no testimony to work that case? As a reporter, you would expect Solomon to have an interest in talking to the actual sources of any potential story. As part of the president's legal team, you expect Giuliani to likewise have an interest in preparing a defense if this hits the Senate. Hard to do either of those without talking to the people involved. Are you meaning to tell me that if we looked at Schiff's records, it wouldn't look like he might have been coaching witnesses with all the phone contact that had to have taken place there?
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posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 12:53 PM
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a reply to: Ahabstar

It's a matter of public interest that Schiff stop acting like the TSA and groping peoples phone records for his own personal pleasure.




posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 12:55 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

The even better question is

Why weren't they called to testfiy.

We all know why?

There was no there,there.

So instead.

Write a report and publicize private information about people who they hate.


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posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 12:55 PM
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Sondland testified about a conversation with Trump where he asked the president what he wanted from Ukraine.

“And it was a very short, abrupt conversation,” the ambassador said. “He was not in a good mood. And he just said, ‘I want nothing. I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo. Tell Zelensky to do the right thing.’ Something to that effect.”
a reply to: shooterbrody

That was AFTER Trump knew about the whistleblower report. He was covering his ass.




so again please tell me how what sondland testified to shows any crime by trump?



In clear terms, Sondland confirmed for all to see that there was a quid pro quo with Ukraine, that Trump withheld a White House meeting until Ukraine launched investigations into the Bidens.
"I know that members of this committee frequently frame these complicated issues in the form of a simple question: Was there a quid pro quo?" Sondland said. "As I testified previously, with regard to the requested White House call and the White House meeting, the answer is yes."
Sondland later said, "Everyone was in the loop. It was no secret."



In his opening statement and throughout his testimony, Sondland said he was working with Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani on Ukraine matters at the "express direction of the President of the United States."
"We did not want to work with Mr. Giuliani," Sondland said, referring to himself, Energy Secretary Rick Perry and former US special envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker. "Simply put, we were playing the hand we were dealt."



During the hearing, Sondland undercut a key Trump defense and simultaneously confirmed a claim from the whistleblower complaint that triggered the impeachment inquiry.
Zelensky "had to announce the investigations," Sondland said, referring to the probes into Biden's family and the 2016 election. "He didn't actually have to do them, as I understood it."


Trump didn't want any investigations. He just wanted the announcement of investigations.

BOOM.

Lock him up.




posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 01:00 PM
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a reply to: ErEhWoN

Ukraine actually started their investigations months before Joe Biden announced he was running for president.



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 01:03 PM
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a reply to: ErEhWoN

Prepare to admit defeat.

Trumps phone call with Zelensky was on April 21st.

Biden entered the 2020 race Apr 25th.

But then agian anything related to Crowdstrike was about the 2016 election.



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 01:03 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody


But it still shows NO CRIME OR EVEN SUSPICION OF SUCH to warrant the violation of 4th amendment rights of American citizens clearly not involved.


You seem pretty confident in this. We do know that Parnas has made claims regarding Giuliani, Nunes, etc. We also know that he has said he has the evidence to support his claims. So who knows what kind of deal he has made.

By the way, Giuliani was not Parnas' personal lawyer. He represented Parnas' and Fruman's (appropriately named) company, Fraud Guarantee. When he got arrested he hired another one of Trump's personal lawyers, John Dowd. Once it became clear that Trump was going to throw Parnas under the bus, Parnas fired Dowd and hired Joseph Bondy. It's at this point that Parnas became open to working with investigators.



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 01:05 PM
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a reply to: ErEhWoN
from you response


with regard to the requested White House call and the White House meeting, the answer is yes

in NO WAY A CRIME
potus may hold meetings with whomever he chooses
you do understand the president is in charge of diplomacy?

also NONE of which you cite was done and the funds were released
also in no way a crime, or a BOOM as you put it

not even worthy of a wimper



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 01:07 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko


As a reporter, you would expect Solomon to have an interest in talking to the actual sources of any potential story. As part of the president's legal team, you expect Giuliani to likewise have an interest in preparing a defense if this hits the Senate.


What story was there in April? What defense was there to prepare in April? And let's not forget that Parnas tended to be the one to make the first contact. That doesn't really fit with your narrative.



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 01:09 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254



You seem pretty confident in this.

Only because schiff will not speak about it.

Parnas has nothing to do with the president.
Attempting to link such only highlights the desperation, which by the way is a stinky cologne, schiff, nadler, and pelosi have sunk to because this is not working out for them.

The seizure of these records will return upon schiff and his committee.

If you want to prosecute rudy, by all means do so.
Pretending it reflects upon potus is poor form.



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 01:12 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

On a national level? None.

Doesn't mean there wasn't a story being worked.



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 01:14 PM
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Honestly...99% of congress need to be replaced. I had to check out the cow ref but jrezus..dude is a white male version ofMaxinne Carr. Aka..retard

BUT...it falls on the voters as usual.




a reply to: AugustusMasonicus



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 01:15 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

The whole reason Giuliani was trying to dig up dirt on Biden in the first place is because he was directed to do so by the President. So yes, like it or not, Trump is tied to Parnas. And that's before we really know the details of Trump and Parnas' relationship.

Trump claims they don't know each other but Parnas and physical evidence shows that's a lie.



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 01:15 PM
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They went after Solomon because he most likely told the TRUTh.

Only reason for him to be targeted by the State (Schiff) like that.



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 01:16 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254




The whole reason Giuliani was trying to dig up dirt on Biden in the first place is because he was directed to do so by the President.


So your saying Biden is the de facto 2020 presidential cadidate without going through a process that lasts another year?

If Trump did do that.

It'd be no different than Clinton and the DNC paying a british spy to write a dossier.
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posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 01:20 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

So, over a week before Trump even had his conversation with Zelensky, Parnas contacts Giuliani to discuss his potential role in an impeachment trial and then contacts John Solomon to do the same?

Interesting behavior for someone that is clearly all about self preservation. I mean he fired his (read: Trump's) lawyer the second it became clear Trump was throwing him under the bus and then offered to cooperate with investigators.



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 01:20 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: shooterbrody
So yes, like it or not, Trump is tied to Parnas. And that's before we really know the details of Trump and Parnas' relationship.

Trump claims they don't know each other but Parnas and physical evidence shows that's a lie.





The whole reason Giuliani was trying to dig up dirt on Biden in the first place is because he was directed to do so by the President.

your theory is in no way any kind of fact, unless you have evidence of such? Please present such and enlighten us all.



So yes, like it or not, Trump is tied to Parnas.

nope
wrong again
not even a nice try

interesting you do not dispute the corruption in Ukraine tho....and that undercuts the entire bs reason for the impeachment hoax
game
set
match



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 01:24 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Solomon's reporting was so blindingly bias that even The Hill fired him because he couldn't be impartial. Do you not find it interesting that the three people that have been most vocally opposed to this impeachment investigation (Giuliani, Solomon, and Nunes) have ended up being intimately tied to it?



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 01:28 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254



Solomon's reporting was so blindingly bias that even The Hill fired him because he couldn't be impartial.

he resigned......
wow
not even a bit of research?



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