Canadian Issues:Ontarians with full and part-time jobs increasingly using food banks,

That's right since the Liberal gov had fallen Ontarians are now increasingly using food banks whatever they have both part time or full time jobs. In Ontario its very expensive especially in the most Liberal city of Toronto.

I know for some on the right would say and attack people for just using food banks but listen can you really survive and pay rent that is around 2k or above 3k? for some families especially low in come families, food banks are a life save. Especially if these families more jobs then two.


The Crisis in Ontario's largest City continues while rent and food prices increasing. In Toronto meanwhile has a crisis with its ever increasing rents if you are looking to rent a apartment.
The apartment average rent in Toronto in some areas is well above 2,600.



Canada’s Rent Costs Continue To Rise Amidst Ongoing Affordability Crisis

Ontarians with full and part-time jobs increasingly using food banks: report

Feed Ontario says the province's labour market conditions make it difficult for workers to make ends meet. The report says precarious or short-term jobs often leave employees unable to pay for their basic necessities month to month.

"Not only are we seeing a rise in casual and contract employment, but we are seeing more adults having no choice but to work in temporary or minimum wage positions," Feed Ontario executive director Carolyn Stewart said in a statement.

Such initiatives provide an income that's well below the poverty line, the report said, noting Ontario Works recipients take home just over $8,700 a year and those on ODSP are asked to survive on $14,000 annually.

Toronto Crisis

In the recent November National Rent Report from Rentals.ca., eight locations in the GTA are in the Top 10 of most expensive places to rent. Toronto is No. 1, of course, is No. 1. But Mississauga, the second largest city in the GTA, is now fourth, up two spots from last month’s report. It will now cost you $1,988 to rent a one-bedroom in Mississauga (in the report analyzing September rates, a one-bedroom rented for $1,907).

“The market, left to its own devices, will build units for rich people,” Macdonald told the Globe and Mail.

In the Toronto's rent article they claim that there are Many international students which like to settle in big cities that is true but not even though those international students are willing to pay a junior/studio that costs around 1800 or near 2000.
Many of international students are paid by their families. Many international students end up renting in houses being offered at cheaper discount near their communities or near the colleges/university.

A few years back it was possible to rent a junior/studio at the cheaper cost if you were a international student not anymore.

Rents will continue to rise as long as governments, food banks, and etc continue to subsidize people living beyond their means.

originally posted by: Jason79
Rents will continue to rise as long as governments, food banks, and etc continue to subsidize people living beyond their means.

Nah, rents are due to supply and demand, been a hella bunch of real estate speculating, plenty of offshore buyers parking their money. Not fair to the people born and raised who pay taxes. I just looked it up, 15,000 international students in Vancouver..24% of students, puts a lot of pressure on the rental market too.

It got real bad in Vancouver..bidding wars over any house, panic buying, people selling at 50% over asking, more sometimes.

The govt had to put their foot down with the real estate board..soo much shenanigins going on..has cooled off a bit.

Yea but you have great healthcare...why is this soley blamed on the fall of the liberal government? its got to be more complex than that. Its not that far off from some of the metro areas in the USA.

I am a capitalist. Capitalist to the bone. I worked hard for everything.

That said. What is the point of working hard and growing wealth, if those that dont eventually get fed up and begin to attack the system that provides comfort and security to those that worked hard to get what they have.

If they are not comfortable and secure, it will put my comfort and security at risk.

I would happily give an additional 5% of my family income to ensure my family stays comfortable and safe.

I just wish there was such thing as an effective government that is capable of collecting tax and providing services without wasting it all on expensive and futile programs that profit everyone except the people that need it.

originally posted by: putnam6
Yea but you have great healthcare...why is this soley blamed on the fall of the liberal government? its got to be more complex than that. Its not that far off from some of the metro areas in the USA.

No we dont. Our universal healthcare is about the same service you get at your county hospitals. Its pathetic. An MRI can take 6 months, doesn't matter how much pain your in.

originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: putnam6
Yea but you have great healthcare...why is this soley blamed on the fall of the liberal government? its got to be more complex than that. Its not that far off from some of the metro areas in the USA.

No we dont. Our universal healthcare is about the same service you get at your county hospitals. Its pathetic. An MRI can take 6 months, doesn't matter how much pain your in.

I was being sarcastic, as Canadian Healthcare is mostly championed here by the left and Im not sure why either.

a reply to: MALBOSIA
It's not perfect here..or anywhere, for that matter. Still, I thank my lucky stars for being born and living here.

We have food banks here and lots of people are using them. Their policy now is you have to need food to get it instead of being poor. Many people in the lower middle class need to go there because of high bills and car payments and insurances. They buy a house and then they are struggling even though they thought they could afford the house because the banks qualified them for a bigger loan payment than they could sustainably afford.

Giving people too much credit is making everyone poor, it allows houses to be sold for more than they actually are worth. The thing is that the reality companies are getting six to ten percent of the money of the sale most times, so they actually benefit by the sale. When I sold our commercial building I sold it on my own, the title company handled the sale for us for about three hundred bucks plus the title insurance and title transfer cost. That three hundred bucks fee was lots less than what the realtor would have gotten. It took me one day to sell the building. Why would I list it when the neighbor expressed interest in buying it.

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: putnam6
Yea but you have great healthcare...why is this soley blamed on the fall of the liberal government? its got to be more complex than that. Its not that far off from some of the metro areas in the USA.

No we dont. Our universal healthcare is about the same service you get at your county hospitals. Its pathetic. An MRI can take 6 months, doesn't matter how much pain your in.

I was being sarcastic, as Canadian Healthcare is mostly championed here by the left and Im not sure why either.

I admit. That went right over my head lol.

originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: putnam6
Yea but you have great healthcare...why is this soley blamed on the fall of the liberal government? its got to be more complex than that. Its not that far off from some of the metro areas in the USA.

No we dont. Our universal healthcare is about the same service you get at your county hospitals. Its pathetic. An MRI can take 6 months, doesn't matter how much pain your in.

except... you know that $2500 price tag that comes with a simple MRI in the states...

but sure... same thing lol

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: MALBOSIA
It's not perfect here..or anywhere, for that matter. Still, I thank my lucky stars for being born and living here.

As do I. I want it to stay this way but how much can some people take before they snap? That's from both sides. I have heard that we are close to 50% tax if you add up all the nickel and diming taxes going on. If that much isn't enough to ease any suffering from those that struggle, I dont think any amount will. Even if everyone that could wanted to help, they cant because the government is too ineffective and it faces no penalty for failure.

originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: putnam6
Yea but you have great healthcare...why is this soley blamed on the fall of the liberal government? its got to be more complex than that. Its not that far off from some of the metro areas in the USA.

No we dont. Our universal healthcare is about the same service you get at your county hospitals. Its pathetic. An MRI can take 6 months, doesn't matter how much pain your in.

except... you know that $2500 price tag that comes with a simple MRI in the states...

but sure... same thing lol

Your not taxes as heavily so you have the money for an MRI when you need it. You can get one here for about $1000 and you jump to the front of the line for surgery if needed ahead of those that cant afford that much, as a result.

a reply to: ChefFox

Is Socialism to blame?

This what happens when the Gov goes privatization following US route with over taxing everything. Electricity bills should be cheaper and regulated by Gov.

One word, "Privatization".

Roger centre used to be called "Sky Dome". Scotia Arena used to be called "Air Canada Centre". I heard Toronto Hydro went private and electric bills went sky high.

Everything is either Fascist or Communist dictatorship these days. That is how they get you.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: ChefFox

Is Socialism to blame?

No, its not socialism. Privatization which companies can buy out Gov buildings, etc.

originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: putnam6
Yea but you have great healthcare...why is this soley blamed on the fall of the liberal government? its got to be more complex than that. Its not that far off from some of the metro areas in the USA.

No we dont. Our universal healthcare is about the same service you get at your county hospitals. Its pathetic. An MRI can take 6 months, doesn't matter how much pain your in.

except... you know that $2500 price tag that comes with a simple MRI in the states...

but sure... same thing lol

Your not taxes as heavily so you have the money for an MRI when you need it. You can get one here for about $1000 and you jump to the front of the line for surgery if needed ahead of those that cant afford that much, as a result.

and then said surgery will cost who knows how much... on top of the MRI...

may be great for those that make decent money... but what about those that don't?

I had a shoulder stabilization surgery when I was 16... would have cost upwards of 30k...

I'd still be paying that off IF it wasn't free in the land of the taxed to death... so

originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: putnam6
Yea but you have great healthcare...why is this soley blamed on the fall of the liberal government? its got to be more complex than that. Its not that far off from some of the metro areas in the USA.

No we dont. Our universal healthcare is about the same service you get at your county hospitals. Its pathetic. An MRI can take 6 months, doesn't matter how much pain your in.

except... you know that $2500 price tag that comes with a simple MRI in the states...

but sure... same thing lol

Your not taxes as heavily so you have the money for an MRI when you need it. You can get one here for about $1000 and you jump to the front of the line for surgery if needed ahead of those that cant afford that much, as a result.

and then said surgery will cost who knows how much... on top of the MRI...

may be great for those that make decent money... but what about those that don't?

I had a shoulder stabilization surgery when I was 16... would have cost upwards of 30k...

I'd still be paying that off IF it wasn't free in the land of the taxed to death... so

If you look at the difference we pay in taxes, you could afford insurance and be treated like a paying customer. If not, you still have the county hospital that is on par with the free service you get here in Canada.

I think there is a misconception of the medical system in Canada. Its VERY expensive for tax payers and the treatment is sub par compared to the US health insurance system. The Canadian government had no incentive to offer the service and be cost effective.

a reply to: MALBOSIA

I hear ya man, where does the money go?..my 1st instinct says..bureaucracy!