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Possible reasons for the gender fluidity "agenda"

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posted on Dec, 3 2019 @ 08:41 AM
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a reply to: Specimen88

Beg to differ. Yahweh would be more similar to Zeus actually, and as far as “Satan” goes in Judaism itself, the concept is and has been seen as a metaphor for human qualities of an adversarial nature: disobedience, deceit, etc.




posted on Dec, 3 2019 @ 08:57 AM
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a reply to: dogstar23

Yeah for sure, love your name btw
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posted on Dec, 3 2019 @ 09:10 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Yea, Zeus could be comparable to Yah Weh, but the big difference is to how they are generally worshipped. Zeus is considered an Idol an has imagery, like the Eagle or Bull. While YahWeh has none, even though both demand animal sacrifice.

Both are weather gods for the most, but in the Book of Job Satan has immense control over nature, especially air. Also Satan in that book is a bit of trickster to an extent, much like Zeus but different means.

And yes, Satan in early Judaism is used alot differently then how Chrisitians use it today.

I'd say Yahweh is the Hebrew version of Hades due to how Yahweh is an invisible force, much like how Hades said to cloak himself with his helmet even though Hades has imagery too.

Big difference between greek an hebrew though is how petty Yahweh an Satan are compared to the greeks gods who have human like traits.
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posted on Dec, 3 2019 @ 09:44 AM
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a reply to: Specimen88

Aside from a few quibbles, I don’t disagree.

Satan in the Old Testament Book of Job is one of the “bene Elohim” our Sons of the Most High at least as a character.

Yahweh was said to have hands, eyes, etc. so I’m not sure we can call Him an “invisible force” exactly and if you tie him back to the Canaanite El (which isn’t hard to do) He gets a wife and other children.

Yahweh has human traits in abundance ... the anger springs to mind as well as a certain petulance.



posted on Dec, 3 2019 @ 09:44 AM
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a reply to: ManyMasks

The vast bulk of future generations is damned to the darkness anyway.



posted on Dec, 3 2019 @ 10:07 AM
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originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
Baphomet is not what you think it is.


The earliest known use of the word Baphomet comes from a letter written by a French crusader in 1098. He describes the Crusaders’ enemies in the Holy Land “Calling upon Baphometh” prior to battle. Another early chronicle of the crusades refers to mosques as Bafumarias. Today, it is commonly accepted that Baphomet, similar to the Old French word Mahomet, refers to Mohammed, the Prophet of Islam.



In 1818, the term Baphomet re-emerged in an essay published in Vienna speculating upon the nature of the idol worshipped by the Knights Templar. The author, Joseph von Hammer-Purgstall, claimed that the Templars were indeed idol worshippers, and that the Baphomet refers to a hermaphroditic stone figure borrowed from Egypt or the Gnostic Christian Ophites.



The final transformation of Baphomet occurred in 1854. French ceremonial magician Elphias Levi re-imagined Baphomet into a figure he named the Sabbatic Goat. Representing the universe in the form of binary opposites, the Sabbatic Goat incorporates elements of the hermaphroditic stone Baphomets and the symbolic ideals of the Templar Baphomet myth. He mingled these elements with Occult, Kabbalistic and Catholic imagery . . . He believed that the Sabbatic Goat served as a collective representation for all magickal icons that survived the spread of Christianity from earlier polytheistic or animistic traditions.


Shocking True History of Baphomet

I believe you are confusing Baphomet with the Devil Tarot Card, a very similar symbol.


The Devil card in Tarot is about ambitions and is also synonymous with temptation, addiction, and depression. The basic symbols of this card are a winged and horned Devil on a black pedestal, naked male and female figures, chains, and an inverted pentagram.




If you'll notice, Baphomet has an upright pentagram, the symbol of man in it's proper (good) alignment, while the Devil card has an upside down pentagram, the symbol of man aligned in opposition (disrupted and in distress).


Thanks for doing some homework and sharing the backstory, a lot of misinformation surrounding baphomet.



posted on Dec, 3 2019 @ 11:53 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66
Good to see a healthy debate with no toys getting flung out the pram.... I should take note


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posted on Dec, 3 2019 @ 01:27 PM
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originally posted by: ManyMasks
a reply to: rickymouse

Yeah I'm with you I'm not dissing the devil, I just don't like secret agendas that are pushed on the people, especially when I don't know the end game for example, if I knew it was to create more balance across the spectrum and make the world better I'd be like, Yay go Satan¡. But I don't believe that, its more likely a control thing maybe to keep people closer to their animalistic nature and further from their higher self.
Did you know that androgen levels in the womb while pregnant determines whether the baby will have more male characteristics, and you can actually physically tell by measuring the 2nd and 4th digits of the hand (ring and index] of the adult which could show if androgen levels where high or low when they were in the womb.... I done a study in that in biological psychology, couple of years ago now so maybe remembering it wrong but it was fascinating stuff. I embrace my feminine nature, I sing power ballads and cry at sad news stories when alone, I'm not afraid to admit that, it's dangerous to suppress it, because then you may change your name to Caitlin.


I knew about both of those things, I have been studying things for around eleven years now and am a little OCD about finding out why.

Not long ago they found that the semen actually has some properties that create variences in gene expression, something they never even considered before. They also found that the fragments in people's cells have interactions with the DNA that cause gene expression by altering how the DNA works. They had no clue that that kind of thing could ever happen, it blows away a lot of what they assumed about DNA. They thought they knew most everything they thought was real about DNA by just focusing on protein coding regions, but the junk DNA actually fires up the protein coding regions and those little fragments, miniature DNA type fragments are also active in influencing everything. Way more complicated than they believed it was twenty years ago. Those little fragments act as messangers and builders of things. Each cell is an individual being living and working symbiotically in a commune type environment to form living beings. We need communication between the cells that works properly and many meds disrupt that function, so do many foods that are in our food supply. If you hear a food called a super food, avoid it and only eat it in reduced moderation, usually those foods they call super food make us dumb down or take away our energy, handy for when you want to relax but not good if you want to do something. I use food to control epilepsy, I was intolerant to all five classes of meds severely. I have learned many ways to control it, it will never go away, if it was going to it would have gotten better since 2002. Oh wait, I have been studying food science since 2008, that is twelve years now, not eleven.

I have been studying all those years and testing on myself and I may know more than ninety five percent of doctors and specialists do on how it works, but I still know very little of what can be known. We are a far from knowing how everything works but I am impressed that there is so much research out there to look at and compare. I just wish the Medical professionals knew even half of what I know, I should write a book,,,,,,but where do I start and how can I put all of this knowledge together for people to understand and utilize. People need to pay attention to how food makes them feel, teenagers tend to learn what to eat or not eat based on what their activities are going to be but are being told to listen to others who are professionals that do not actually comprehend how things actually work.



posted on Dec, 3 2019 @ 01:46 PM
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Cool man thanks for the wee lesson didn't know any of that. But yeah for sure I agree they are so ahead of the curve to keep us semi sedated but still able to work away to keep the factories open and us oblivious to it all, personally I just listen to my body, if I'm overdoing a certain food type I will get heartburn so I just keep tabs on when that happens and what I have been eating, the bastards are poisoning us and keeping us distracted but it's good to see there are many of us able to see what's going on and are working ways around it, more power to you buddy. I used to work in a food factory and all the flavourings like dextrous and food mixes come from conglomerate companies so they have their chemicals in all products. See people think oh I get my sausages from the local butcher but your local butcher doesn't make the flavourings all that comes from the big companies, I just hope one day the truth comes out and they are made to pay for their crimes against humanity.



posted on Dec, 3 2019 @ 03:14 PM
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Well it does tend to happen to civilisations after they have 'won'

They tear themselves apart from within through decadency and then the 'barbarians' take advantage .

Look to history for what is happening now and what is still to come..

It has happened many times before and will continue to do so as cycles do.



posted on Dec, 3 2019 @ 04:21 PM
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That would be true, even though Satan does lack the El at the end of his name, and the notable AngEls like Micheal(Mikael) or Gabriel. If I remember, Satan was synonymous with was Samael at some point, who was Judaisms Angel of Death more or less.

I said he was an invisible force due to how Judaism was kinda of superstitious about looking at him. Yahweh supposedly said if Moses saw his face he would of died, and Rameses basically called his god a b**** since he wouldn't show himself.

Hell, even saying Yahweh was supposed to invoke his wrath, and yea, but mainly jealousy though.


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posted on Dec, 3 2019 @ 05:34 PM
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a reply to: ManyMasks

I'm not a big fan of PC stuff, but seriously, people can vary on their psychological identity as far as gender goes. It's not the same as identifying as a different species. It's about accepting all people regardless of such. No reason to think it's some demonic conspiracy. Stop painting LGBTQ as demonic. It's disgusting and completely wrong.



posted on Dec, 3 2019 @ 05:42 PM
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originally posted by: johnb
Well it does tend to happen to civilisations after they have 'won'
They tear themselves apart from within through decadency and then the 'barbarians' take advantage .
Look to history for what is happening now and what is still to come..
It has happened many times before and will continue to do so as cycles do.

Some have a faster failure rate than others and those are the ones continually tweaked (we will get a better outcome this time): Communism, Socialism, Totalitarianism, Dictatorships, Marshal Law, Colonialism, Feudalism. Whats left Federations or Democracies? Even a state of Utopia must experience entropy to grow or it stagnates. Process/progression involves destruction.
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posted on Dec, 3 2019 @ 06:53 PM
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a reply to: Barcs

You're taking this to personally they are just possible reasons, a discussion on the matter. I have absolutely no prejudices against anybody or their sexual preferences. however I don't like when a very small portion of the people try and push their ways onto the majority, especially the children. I suppose your OK with children having sex changes also.
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posted on Dec, 3 2019 @ 07:04 PM
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I always thought that Eve was an ape lul



posted on Dec, 3 2019 @ 07:10 PM
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originally posted by: KiwiNite
I always thought that Eve was an ape lul

Thinking can cause unexpected pernicious problems for oneself. Are you a Darwinist or Creationist?
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posted on Dec, 3 2019 @ 07:25 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

Yahweh was said to have hands, eyes, etc. so I’m not sure we can call Him an “invisible force”


"Eyes" in the sense that Yahweh can see, and "hands" in the sense that Yahweh can work. Material? Only when someone embodies the Most High archetypes of human existence.


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posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 01:38 PM
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originally posted by: ManyMasks
a reply to: Barcs

You're taking this to personally they are just possible reasons, a discussion on the matter. I have absolutely no prejudices against anybody or their sexual preferences. however I don't like when a very small portion of the people try and push their ways onto the majority, especially the children. I suppose your OK with children having sex changes also.


Yes, I take bigotry seriously because it's almost 2020 and people are still acting like it's 1052.

What is being pushed to the majority aside from having equal rights and the same protection that all other demographic groups get? Break it down, for me. Show me where somebody is forcing a non LGBTQ to be LGBTQ. This is your typical faux outrage. LMFAO @ equating LGBTQ to pedophilia. You have no prejudices, yet you compare them to pedophiles? Yep, that's disgusting...

I love when people are like, "I'm not a bigot, BUT..."
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posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 01:42 PM
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Possible reasons for the gender fluidity "agenda"

Call them what they are.

Biology deniers.



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 01:44 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Nope. Gender and sex are 2 different things. Why do the haters never even consider this?

Sex is biological and based on chromosomes, gender is the psychological identity. There is no biology denial in having a different gender identity than your sex. I get that religion teaches people it's evil and thus folks hate them with all their hearts and fight them every step of the way, but that's an archaic attitude. Why not just leave people alone? Is it really hard to live and let live?
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