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I'll just say, I'm for capitol punishment.

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posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 11:56 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: tanstaafl
No, but it can be streamlined.


How and where? Nearly all of the length of that process is due to scores of Supreme Court rulings. You aren't streamlining anything.

Whatever you say. Obviously you have no clue about that which thou doth speak of.

1. Raise the bar for subjection to the death penalty, so there are less there.

2. Implement speedy appeals. Mandate each appeal last no longer than one month.

3. Switch from lethal injection to firing squad.




posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 12:06 PM
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originally posted by: tanstaafl
Whatever you say. Obviously you have no clue about that which thou doth speak of.


ORLY? Watch...


1. Raise the bar for subjection to the death penalty, so there are less there.


Done, multiple times.



2. Implement speedy appeals. Mandate each appeal last no longer than one month.


Not possible, the Supreme Court has ruled on this multiple times.



3. Switch from lethal injection to firing squad.


Method is irrelevant at this point since you've got years/decades until the execution may occur.

If you bothered to dig in you would have come across the numerous cases on the subject showing why these changes occurred and how the legal process was arrived upon.

Too long? Cliff's Notes: The taxpayer pays more for executions than life in prison.



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 12:39 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
"2. Implement speedy appeals. Mandate each appeal last no longer than one month."

Not possible, the Supreme Court has ruled on this multiple times.

Linky please, showing the supreme court saying that appeals have to be dragged out for decades.


"3. Switch from lethal injection to firing squad."

Method is irrelevant at this point since you've got years/decades until the execution may occur.

Issues/problems with the drugs used, including that the manufacturers don't want them used for this, have definitely added years to many. If you bothered to dig in you would have come across this tidbit.


If you bothered to dig in you would have come across the numerous cases on the subject showing why these changes occurred and how the legal process was arrived upon.

Sorry, no interest in reading the voluminous words of activist judges using twisted logic to justify ruling in accordance with their own personal views rather than according to the Constitution itself.


Too long? Cliff's Notes: The taxpayer pays more for executions than life in prison.

Only because of red tape - and activist judges using twisted logic to justify ruling in accordance with their own personal views rather than according to the Constitution itself.

It is definitely not a Constitutional thing, since the average time from sentencing to execution when the Constitution was ratified was days, or at most, weeks, not months or years.

So, Constitutionally speaking, Congress could easily pass a law limiting appeals to 2 or 3, and limiting the time for each to weeks, or a month or so.

Oh - and are you suggesting that those sentenced to life in prison don't also have a huge cost for appeals?



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 01:16 PM
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Nvm
edit on 4-12-2019 by Specimen88 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 03:00 PM
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originally posted by: tanstaafl
Linky please, showing the supreme court saying that appeals have to be dragged out for decades.


There is none per se, a defense attorney will use the previous court rulings to file appeals in an attempt to vacate the execution based on, e.g., the defendant was prejudiced by a juror who would automatically vote for death. They can use the scores of rulings on what is not grounds for execution and file appeals.



Issues/problems with the drugs used, including that the manufacturers don't want them used for this, have definitely added years to many. If you bothered to dig in you would have come across this tidbit.



I'm aware of that, it's still irrelevant as before you get to the execution you have to navigate the appeals process.



Sorry, no interest in reading the voluminous words of activist judges using twisted logic to justify ruling in accordance with their own personal views rather than according to the Constitution itself.


Sure, whatever. The Supreme Court still ruled on this.



Only because of red tape - and activist judges using twisted logic to justify ruling in accordance with their own personal views rather than according to the Constitution itself.


Just like your other amateur legal arguments you should use your law degree to get this handled. You obviously have a better grasp on this than the Justices.



So, Constitutionally speaking, Congress could easily pass a law limiting appeals to 2 or 3, and limiting the time for each to weeks, or a month or so.


Then why haven't they done so? Not just for this but every case?


Oh - and are you suggesting that those sentenced to life in prison don't also have a huge cost for appeals?


Not nearly as much as death penalty cases, it was in the article you unsurprisingly failed to read.



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 04:37 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake
Why Trump? What has he done? But the Clintons. No one I know of has had 50+ associates commit suicide. But to progressives there is no there there to finally come to the conclusion that 50+ suicides becomes suspicious. WHEN DO 50+ COINCIDENCES BECOME A PATTERN.



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 05:16 PM
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originally posted by: Ansuzrune
Why Trump?


Why not? Gotta start somewhere.



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 06:06 PM
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originally posted by: links234

originally posted by: neo96

The PEOPLE put the current guy in the oval office.


The electoral college is not 'the people.'


yes it is. The people elect their representatives and those people on behalf of the people who elected them cast their votes for the president.
Popular vote isnt fair because the demographics are not evenly distributed nationwide.



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 10:04 PM
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Sorry, I can’t stomach it. There isnt any need for it. It clearly doesn’t stop criminals from performing crimes...

All it really does is satisfy a legalized bloodlust.
a reply to: Plotus



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 02:35 AM
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originally posted by: Rob808
Sorry, I can’t stomach it. There isnt any need for it. It clearly doesn’t stop criminals from performing crimes...

All it really does is satisfy a legalized bloodlust.
a reply to: Plotus





This is an authoritarian wet dream, these people crave capitol punishment, in fact I bet they fantasize bringing back the coleseum and all it's glory.



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 06:03 AM
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a reply to: Plotus

So you'd be for capital punishment , if you were convicted of a crime that could result in your own death ?

it's easy to call for capital punishment when you are a law abiding citizen.


Maybe it would be actually worthwhile to create prisons that actually punish people
rather than just giving them lots of food and warm beds and TV and sports etc

Punish people who are long time offenders, repeat offenders,

make them clean up hazardous materials, make them clean up depleted uranium, make them clear landmines

make them have to go through human experimentation for medicines

you know make them pay for their crimes
rather than just fooling the justice system into being rehabilitated , releasing them to then have them commit more crimes later
or in some other country.





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