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Modern Day 'Sleeper' Assets - Contemporary Deliberate Dissociation and Manipulation

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posted on Dec, 2 2019 @ 11:15 AM
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This is the kind of stuff we soak in everyday when we watch tv or movies. When a commercial comes on saying "This movie is a must see!", well why? WHY do they want us to see it that bad?


ETA: The dehumanization of the enemy seems obvious. The whole dirty primitive cavemen, which got us to go along with 2+ wars.
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posted on Dec, 2 2019 @ 01:40 PM
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Book marking to follow further developments. Excellent thread so far. Look forward to what else you have to share!

I am in little need of convincing that programs, (secret and not), technology, and techniques to engineer and modify the behavior and perception of society is in use even if those implementing are unaware of what they do.

Advertising (which we defend adamantly in the name of freedom and capitalism) and how far it has been taken is the best visual evidence one needs. Often times I use my own individualized targeted ads to
paint the picture for others to see how truly invasive and emotionally provocative the process itself can be.... and in the name of profit and greed?

What, then, would be the limits of, say, implementing the practices for perhaps national security or continuity of the human race, in the minds of some wielding control of theoretical, discovered knowledge or revelation?

Thought provoking, indeed!



posted on Dec, 3 2019 @ 10:09 AM
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MK ultra is still happening because a lot of people went rogue in US. What does those mass shooting and suicide means? Its just in a different format now a days. Cut them off. I say cut them off. Stop funding these programs is the first thing that needs to happen. Then ratting out the mad scientist is the 2nd thing. All them missing children could be part of it too.


(post by AtlantisWasReal removed for a serious terms and conditions violation)

posted on Dec, 3 2019 @ 07:25 PM
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Hope the OP I safe and returns soon, looking forward to reading more.

I'll periodically check back in.



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 12:50 AM
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I'm wondering whether Epstein Island is somehow connected to all of this and that is why the Clintons are so confident none of their dirty escapades will come to light.



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 01:28 AM
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a reply to: leolady

Look at some of the recent shooters. The El Paso Wal mart shooter had MK Ultra all over him when you read his manifesto and too a look at his father's background. Likewise the Ohio nightclub shoot right after that. And the Las Vegas shooter was without a doubt into deep state human trafficking and had help which was then covered up. The garlic festival shooter was a lone operator that had gone off and nobody knows who he had contact with prior to that shooting.



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 02:24 AM
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a reply to: Apoceclipse


Love this post, great job man...

However, while there is no questioning the reality of project MKUltra, ultimately, experiments in mind control were wildly unpredictable, and the results nearly impossible to reproduce.

The idea was scrapped, and at the end of the day, there is simply no evidence for a Jason Bourne type super soldier, or a person free of agency.

That's not to say that some of the research hasn't lived on in modern enhanced interrogation techniques.

And of course MOST IMPORTANTLY, the unintentional effect of "turning on" the Baby Boomers, the creation of both the counter-culture and anti war movements. The sixties were fueled in their entirety by '___'. East would not have come west if the US hadn't intentionally dosed guys like Ken Kesey and Robert Hunter. No acid tests, no furthur, no Woodstock, etc etc. There would also be no Internet without the popularization of '___', also no Steve Jobs, and no iPhone, no information revolution.

Which sort of brings me to the point of my post. Yes, it's unqueationable that certain individuals such as Sirhan Sirhan, who were already schizophrenic and almost totally suggestible were used, but they were used as diversions and scapegoats. They were not really functional operatives.

We live in a new age now. There simply is no more privacy. There are eyes and ears in our kitchen appliances. It has changed the way we think, and the way behave, radically. The so called "deep state" "shadow government" exists in the world of tech, which is by it's very nature anarchistic.

And I want to say, it's only really been this way the past five or six years or so. Like some folks said in 2012, the end of the Kali Yuga, the dawning of the age of aquarius due to precession.

Everything comes to light in this age



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 03:09 AM
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a reply to: Dutchowl

I'm not very knowledgeable on the backgrounds of the shooters myself. I've heard the mkultra theory put forth on the shooters. I always kind of felt that the copycat phenomenon is occurring. Had we not publicized prior events of mass shooters in the media , would it have turned into such a popular choice/method or terror act in our culture ? It brings to my mind Sensitization techniques.

I've always thought it very creepy that we have what appears to be a repetitive massacre type of act being carried out by different individuals who on first appearance don't seem to be connected. I can never truly understand what would make a human mind/person decide to take this action/route. Just knowing the pain this type of monstrous inhuman act causes on so many makes my mind think how could anyone ever decide to do it in the first place. What has unfolded in their mind to cause them to do it.

So back to the thread, the experiments/training that were done on soldiers, some partook willingly & knowingly... its disturbing.

leolady



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 03:53 AM
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So back to the thread, the experiments/training that were done on soldiers, some partook willingly & knowingly... its disturbing.


Well, the experiments and torture done on children, worldwide ... yes ... it's disturbing.

Understand well, it was not only soldiers, it was children, unwitting mothers, men and women ... just about every category you can think of.

People in communities (mostly black neighborhoods ) given STDs to see how far the infections spread.

Please do not try to minimize this. It will not work.

P



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 06:45 AM
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originally posted by: DustDoses
a reply to: Apoceclipse

Love this post, great job man...

However, while there is no questioning the reality of project MKUltra, ultimately, experiments in mind control were wildly unpredictable, and the results nearly impossible to reproduce.

The idea was scrapped, and at the end of the day, there is simply no evidence for a Jason Bourne type super soldier, or a person free of agency.


Hi,

There we go, this is the comment I was looking for. I would have to say that I strongly disagree, as this is the specific area I have experience in, and why I am here.

This subject tends to stem into several areas, but I am in fact focusing the matter to one specific area, which happens to be that which you cast a shadow on with your statement. Although some of my future writing will span a slightly wider range to give context, it will focus on these sleeper assets that some would in fact deem 'sleeper/assassin/'super soldiers' if you will. Although I think the term 'super soldier' is a bit comic-book-esque, I think we all can understand the concept - a highly trained, highly motivated person, devoid of fear, and ethic/moral qualms. One who puts 100% into a specific task, operates in the most effecient manner possible, without worry of self harm, or even collateral damage, so long as that will not infringe on staying within the parameters/guidelines of a mission, nor risk exposure. In fact, collateral damage may not be so accurate of a term as it often goes hand in hand with exposure prevention, and will be required. This person ('s/actions) may or may not be further enhanced/augmented in several ways... from drugs and 'hypnotically induced' metal states, to implants that secrete chemicals and/or help produce certain hormones etc, to implants that provide electrical/mental stimulation in varying manners.

While I understand you may not be privvy to the evidence, there is in fact plenty, just not disclosed in the same manner as old. This is due to a a few simple reasons. A couple main things are:

Disclosure: Involved parties, specifically of the academic/scientific community have been a little more motivated to keep a lid on it, and learned the importance of not leaking information. In part, due to blowback from the public/perception/opinion of past disclosures - not only from those of a personal nature, but the general declassification and subsequent dissection of info as well. In part, due to much harsher consequences from those directly involved in program oversight. It is simply unacceptable for anything about this to come out at all, and the penalty has been known to be death.

Procedure: Although research and revision are ongoing, they are no longer the primary objective, as now there is a somewhat standardized 'formula' in place. One that is very effecient. This is not to say failure rates are not high, but grooming and cover-up protocols are well in place to prevent disclosure. Do note, the formula is one that is primarily separated/layered away from the direct oversight, and is designed to be as self sufficient/self replicating as possible - which we will delve into.

I thank you for the motivation bringing me back to write more.

Take for example, on going 'special operations and operators' of a classified nature. These operators identities and missions are kept secret/classified from the public, and almost never leaked. This is the area these assets we discuss are most frequently used in, so to argue that these 'sleeper/SS assets' are not in existence, due to lack of evidence, is a bit naive, as this goes hand in hand with other 'special/black operations' around the globe, which indeed are kept classified and secret from the public.

Tell me the identities and training of the military intelligence elite field operatives... do you have this info? Of course not. Several of these operators are in fact dissociative assets... which serves dual purposes in cover-up, and these parties make the best sleepers as well. In their down time, they can be activated for domestic (or otherwise) intelligence missions, and due to their life experience - heavy drinking, horrible dreams are already common, and secrecy is of their nature. They may think a mission they were activated for was just a bad dream, it could easily become a blur, and they are already constantly monitored for their 'normal' classified involvement in operations. This along with tunnel vision, and a fast pace forward, as well as being on call 24/7 where they will have to drop everything from their personal life in an instant (and will be called out if they are getting 'too close') serves to prevent self discovery and disclosure. If need be, the powers that be may send them on a 'suicide mission' as they veer towards being a liability. I have seen it happen.

I am not here to discuss the possibility of involvement in mass manipulation, or the involvement of assets possible being used in some of these mass/school shootings, or anything of that nature, to be clear. I will stay away from that specific subject matter in general. What I will go into is the following (rough framework, this writing is not planned or formatted ahead of time):

- Asset Selection
- Asset Acquisition
- Asset Routing
- Asset Retainment
- Grooming Phases
- Making the Cut (or Washing Out)
- Self Sufficiency
- Plausible Deniability
- Disclosure Prevention
- Disclosure Twisting/Smearing

I am sure I will slightly rearrange the above, and/or add to, but that is the rough framework I will go into, as general topics to give the readers insight.



posted on Dec, 4 2019 @ 06:03 PM
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a reply to: Apoceclipse

Ok, we are waiting for the insight on the framework u listed out.

leolady



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 05:19 AM
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a reply to: Apoceclipse

Very interesting subject you bring to the table and one worthy of ATS
And you will know you are over the target when the flak gets bad .



EDIT TO ADD

www.drrobertduncan.com...

Based on “The Torture Memos” and the Senate Intelligence Committee’s Declassified “Torture Report”

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posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 05:23 AM
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a reply to: stonerwilliam

So true!



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 08:58 AM
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a reply to: Apoceclipse

Thanks Apoceclipse for bringing up this very painful subject and very dark chapter of the human history!

I'm one of those people that don't doubt the validity and reality of trauma based mind control. Many years ago with the good intention of healing people, I was involved for a short time with the dangerous cult of Scientology and even though I wasn't subject to their darker methods, I know first hand that these things are true and horrific.

I've read a few books on the subject of the Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD) including the sad gruesome story of Cathy O'Brien and her sufferings. The book is called "Trance-Formation of America":

Cathy O'Brien
trance-formation.com...
www.amazon.com...

... And the shocking story of Svali (a former Illuminati slave/programmer) who wrote the book called "Svali Speaks":

Svali
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
www.amazon.com...

During my life especially as a child, under deep trauma I've had cases of passing out and a totally black consciousness and I've probably dissociated/split. From what I read here you're a psychologist, so my question would be if you have any idea why the mind behaves as it does, when it shuts down it dissociates and becomes susceptible to outside influences, like an open box if you will? I'm looking for some deeper info here.

Finally I'm sure that healing of the subject, comes only from God that intervenes inside human mind to undo the damage, however the human help (an auditor/ trained psychologist) and the subject's approval are needed.

Please keep posting!
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posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 09:39 AM
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a reply to: miri2019

Yeah the movie the accountant is a good one regarding trauma based mind control..... Also a clockwork orange.



posted on Dec, 5 2019 @ 11:06 AM
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Yes, both seem to be good movies. I remember another old foreign movie called "The ring of the memory" that had the same subject, breaking of the human mind through torture ... These people that do these unspeakable things, will soon pay for what they've done to the humanity.



posted on Dec, 6 2019 @ 06:18 PM
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I will just drop this here and walk away quietly

aim4truth.org...


THE ZUCKERBERG DOSSIER
MARK ZUCKERBERG IS A FRAUD USED BY THE CIA




posted on Dec, 7 2019 @ 06:27 PM
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Johnny Cash lyrics:

Well, you may throw your rock and hide your hand
Working in the dark against your fellow man
But as sure as God made black and white
What's done in the dark will be brought to the light

One of my all time favorite songs- seems relevant, talking about the hidden hand.



posted on Dec, 9 2019 @ 06:47 PM
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a reply to: Apoceclipse

I DONT BELIEVE YOU

LIAR!

(there, maybe now op will get motivated again
....the big fat phony! *commence fist shaking and "grrrr!"-ing*)

Not convincing enough?

Fine... *ahem* I t's not that I doubt the government Would do something like this, but they tried, and it turns out its just not possible. Maybe its just one of those Laws of Nature, freewill can't be infringed upon. And besides, even if it were possible, the gov isnt competent enough to both figure it out And keep it covered up... ill buy one maybe, but not both! *confidently folds his arms and stares you down, as if to say "checkmate"*




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