Former Area 51 & CIA Employee Implies Tic Tac UFO Event Was A Classified Test

originally posted by: Sublant

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Halfswede

And there was something seen by the F-18 pilots. He said that there was something there that appeared to be standing still. Exactly like Palladium used, and was rolled into NEMESIS.

It wouldn't make much sense to have some kind of EM false targets and even the implied holographic "objects" in the vicinity of the strike group and an actual physical object in the air in the form of IR decoy.

Excellent sublant!

a reply to: Jukiodone

Yes, but as you said, they'd have to release a patent. And even if they did a lot of people would still shrug it off.

a reply to: Jukiodone

At some point you have to test systems under realistic conditions. You can test at black sites all you want, but you eventually have to come out and see how it does under actual stress. There's no conspiracy about it. You don't want to get into a fight only to find out that an Aegis sees right through it.

a reply to: Zaphod58

could be.....
There's a lack of hard evidence so much of this is just opinion.

On more solid matters......do you have any thoughts on what Justice was doing at LM for 35 years?
He gets revered tones from colleagues on the skunkworks podcast...but I dont think anyone has ever discussed what he did.

a reply to: Jukiodone

I can think of a couple programs he may have been involved with. They actually do a lot out of Skunk Works.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Revered as in Johnson/Rich revered.
I've been through the LM time line graphic (with the little skunk icons) and have a few ideas myself.

Regardless of what happens from here - the time a LM advanced projects head honcho joined a UFO start will never be forgotten and its possibly........ the best evidence for "UFO's" ever obtained by the public.

Does make me wonder if something like that could be an explanation for red-button 'near-misses' that have occurred in the past, there was one I vaguely recall in the nineties I think where the common sense of a Russian General prevailed. If it was intentional then that was a pretty risky thing to do a reply to: MerkabaTribeEntity

a reply to: Corkmeister

That one was a rocket launch that didn't get passed on. There was another one where a training tape was left installed.

time a LM advanced projects head honcho joined a UFO start will never be forgotten and its possibly........ the best evidence for "UFO's" ever obtained by the public.

I have been stating this repeatedly numerous times on the ATS forum. Why can't everyone see the significance of this....

Jeez...I did not realize how dense people can be. Let's highlight the statement once again for the dense among us:

time a LM advanced projects head honcho joined a UFO start will never be forgotten and its possibly........ the best evidence for "UFO's" ever obtained by the public.

a reply to: celltypespecific

Because contrary to popular internet opinion UFO does not mean alien.

a reply to: shawmanfromny

S&F!

I wish I'd read this thread sooner! When I first saw it I figured it was going to be another thread about some captured alien spaceship technology at Area 51.

Interesting stuff.

Testing new stuff during a live military excercise, endangering pilots and multimillion dollar assets, without telling anyone, seems highly unlikely and probably illegal.

Seems like an attempt to muddy the waters.
Cant have pilots and technicians go around talking about real UFOs.

a reply to: tjocksteffe

The military testing military assets around military equipment is illegal now?

a reply to: shawmanfromny

Lasers can project lights at extreme distances and can be a combination of wavelengths, unless one of these planes crashed into one, it might simply be a projection.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Zaphod58

But we're not talking about a plane but about a way to fool your opponent. "If you see this it's not real" as a disclaimer for that kind of thing makes it absolutely pointless.

Most likely by now they have far advanced technology and the info is to deflect.

This is huge news if implemented

Barrett, Rogers plan to declassify black space programs

“Declassifying some of what is currently held in secure vaults would be a good idea,” Air Force Secretary Barbara Barrett said during a panel at the Reagan National Defense Forum Saturday. “You would have to be careful about what we declassify, but there is much more classified than what needs to be.”

www.defensenews.com...

a reply to: celltypespecific

Not really. It's almost certainly just satellite programs. Even when they tell you the purpose of the satellite just about everything about it is classified.

originally posted by: circuitsports
a reply to: shawmanfromny

Lasers can project lights at extreme distances and can be a combination of wavelengths, unless one of these planes crashed into one, it might simply be a projection.

It has to project along the entire path of the beam, or 'onto' something. There isn't a way to make a cohesive shape only at some point along the beam. Even if you could do something with a pair of beams where you were able to achieve some cohesive phase amplification at a crossing point, at best you could put a blob in a stationary or slowly moving point. You could heat up a cloud or something like that with a beam system, but again, the cloud has to move. If this was anything, it was something actually there whether black aircraft project, decoy, drone, ET, whatever. Without saying more, it was there, not spoofed from nothing.

a reply to: Halfswede

Which is it though?

Either the pilots made a misidentification where the misidentified object was correlated across multiple reports
or
Pilots saw something that defies every observation we've ever made about thermodynamics, fluid dynamics and inertia
or
There might be a way to do it using directed energy YOU aren't aware of.....

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: tjocksteffe

The military testing military assets around military equipment is illegal now?

The military testing new assets live, without informing the pilots involved is probably against military regulations.

Which means it is highly unlikely.