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21 killed in bloody gunfights in northern Mexico

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posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 05:17 PM
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Wanna know how to end the drug war overnight and put the cartels out of business??

We need to legalize drugs.

Besides, the govt never had authority to prohibit what you put into your body (Prohibition era proved you needed an amendment to the Constitution - and they then overturned that amendment).

If you declare war on the cartels it will only increase the prices and force all normal ppl thru endless security checks.

Please stop being stubborn and legalize the dam stuff. The druggies will get their fix regardless of what you do. Be reasonable.

It's far cheaper, it's bloodless, it'll solve the main problems overnight, and it favors the freedom of our citizens.




posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 05:24 PM
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a reply to: CraftyArrow




No... it will be Terrorist vs the U.S. Military....
once the Cartels are labeled as Terrorist, they are as good as dead.


That's what's so awesome about DT. He's street smart enough to take em
out before he labels 'em terrorists. So you may have a good point there.
But the way the cartels are I imagine they already have people in position.



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 05:30 PM
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originally posted by: carsforkids
a reply to: Homefree

I do not by means want to sound un american but you do
realize you are speaking of don't give a F&*k crazy assassins vs
people that most likely have t work the next day. Know
what I mean?

I grew up in that general region. They throw "F&k crazy assassins' in the hog trough.



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 05:33 PM
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a reply to: Doctor Smith

Still legal in Mexico, just an insane about of gun control legislation that makes California look positively over permissive in comparison. What’s worse is that there is only one gun store in all of Mexico. Wikipedia isn’t the best but this sounds right. Source



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 05:43 PM
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a reply to: muzzleflash

You are talking sense there but they would not listen much like Ralph Naders Unsafe at Any Speed book decades ago which stated

For over half a century,” Nader’s book began, “the automobile has brought death, injury, and the most inestimable sorrow and deprivation to millions of people.” Technology existed that could make cars much safer, he argued, but automakers had little incentive to use them: On the contrary, “the gigantic costs of the highway carnage in this country support a service industry”—doctors, lawyers, police officers, morticians—and “there is little in the dynamics of the automobile accident industry that works for its reduction.”

Drugs are exactly the same



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 05:44 PM
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Isn’t this the same country Obummer and Holder we’re running guns into? What could ever possibly go wrong with that dumbass idea? With decision making like that it’s amazing that either one of them ever held a public office position, yet alone the presidency and AG.



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 05:45 PM
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a reply to: Homefree

Okay I get it tuff crowd. But my point is worth consideration wouldn't
you say? Or we can just depend on people with no clear objective?



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 05:53 PM
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originally posted by: Doctor Smith

Maybe if it was a gun free zone. Or their was laws making guns illegal this wouldn't have happened. Oh. Guns are illegal in Mexico.


And guns are legal in the USA, whats the point, both are shall we say "above average 10th and 15th out of 75" for deaths by gun in the world, guess the mexicans are bad right, is that your point, im a bit stupid when it comes to understanding some statistics



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 06:02 PM
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a reply to: muzzleflash
Ding ding!!

You win, it's the only way.



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 06:19 PM
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a reply to: UpIsNowDown
Not only that but the US is higher on that list, with 37.5% more firearm deaths than Mexico, so it would seem the US is the more violent place.

ETA: I see it is suicides that put the US higher on that list but the homicides are still up there.
edit on 1-12-2019 by daskakik because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 06:25 PM
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Why doesn't the USA just Buy Mexico, and call it the 52nd state.

You already have a New Mexico.....this can be Old Mexico......

Then all the Chicanos will have to abide by US law and regulations.....just like East LA....

Problemo Solvardod.




posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 06:35 PM
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I'm not that naive to think were not in Mexico already in some type of "advisor" capacity.



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 06:37 PM
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originally posted by: gort51
Why doesn't the USA just Buy Mexico, and call it the 52nd state.

You already have a New Mexico.....this can be Old Mexico......

Then all the Chicanos will have to abide by US law and regulations.....just like East LA....

Problemo Solvardod.



I thought you had 52 states already ?



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 06:40 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: Doctor Smith


Maybe if it was a gun free zone.


Maybe if America didn’t supply 70% of the guns in Mexico.

Maybe we need a stronger border....



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 06:49 PM
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originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: underwerks


Maybe if America didn’t supply 70% of the guns in Mexico.


Only 2 out of the top 10 guns in Mexico are from the US... Go figure. The Colt 45 and Bushmaster.


That's an extremely bold statement to make without even so much as providing a link.

Here you go though, seems the facts completely contradict your claim.



Research shows that a majority of guns in Mexico can be traced to the U.S. A report from the U.S Government Accountability Office showed that 70 percent of guns seized in Mexico by Mexican authorities and submitted for tracing have a U.S. origin. This percentage remains consistent, said Bradley Engelbert, a spokesperson for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. And the Trump administration has recently taken steps to ease rules on gun exports, which enables manufacturers to sell guns in Mexico and Central America countries.




A report from the Center of American Progress found that the United States was the primary source of weapons used in crime in Mexico and Canada. Other countries in Central America can also trace a large proportion of guns seized in crimes to the United States. For example, the report found that from 2014 to 2016, 49 percent of crime guns seized in El Salvador were originally purchased in the U.S. In Honduras, 45 percent of guns recovered in crime scenes were traced to the United States as well.


pbs.org



Your stats are about guns seized the OP was about top guns used



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 07:24 PM
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originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: Doctor Smith

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: scolai

But they’re not terrorists. They’re criminals. They have neither political nor religious motives. They’re no more terrorists than Al Capone or Whitey Bulger. They just want to make money in a less than respectable fashion.


They are extremist groups that break the law in about every way possible. When they go into a town and kill the Mayor, what do you call that? Sure seems like terrorism though not attached to a religious ideal.


When the police are too afraid to go after them and they out gun them. Sounds like terrorism to me.


I thought you referred to that as patriotism over there in the US.


Patriots don't sell hard drugs and traffic kids for prostitution.



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 08:18 PM
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I saw earlier vehicles involved had Texas plates... It seems theyre here already. It shouldnt be of a suprise to anyone.. reply to: carsforkids



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 08:20 PM
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57 according to Obama...a reply to: stonerwilliam



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 09:06 PM
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a reply to: Bigbrooklyn

See now I can't be to far off with my anticipations then?



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 09:35 PM
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a reply to: carsforkids

Oh, there's some truth to that... But, never forget, those people who have to work the next day, have things worth fighting for. Homes. Families. Etc...

They'd rather not, I'm sure. I know I don't...not that that would stop me from doing so should the need arise. I may lose, sure, but they'd know I'd been there, and there'd be fewer for the next person to have to deal with.




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