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21 killed in bloody gunfights in northern Mexico

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posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 03:42 PM
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MEXICO CITY - At least 17 suspected cartel gunmen and four police were killed during shootouts over the weekend in a Mexican town near the U.S. border, days after U.S. President Donald Trump raised bilateral tensions by saying he would designate the gangs as terrorists.

21 killed in bloody gunfights in northern Mexico

Maybe if it was a gun free zone. Or their was laws making guns illegal this wouldn't have happened. Oh. Guns are illegal in Mexico.



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 03:49 PM
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a reply to: Doctor Smith


Maybe if it was a gun free zone.


Maybe if America didn’t supply 70% of the guns in Mexico.



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 03:50 PM
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That's a 4.25 : 1 in favor of the police.



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 03:50 PM
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a reply to: Doctor Smith

First thing the cartels will do is strike america and say if you
label us terrorists we will become terrorists. Border cities like
El Paso and Brownsville be on high alert immediately. The
casinos in El Paso are but a dash from the border. Not good
at all.


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posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 03:52 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: Doctor Smith


Maybe if it was a gun free zone.


Maybe if America didn’t supply 70% of the guns in Mexico.


Maybe if we had a way to stop the smugglers...

Maybe something like a wall...




posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 03:53 PM
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originally posted by: carsforkids
a reply to: Doctor Smith

First thing the cartels will do is strike america and say if you
label us terrorists we will become terrorists. Border cities like
El Paso and Brownsville be on high alert immediately. The
casinos in El Paso are but a dash from the border. Not good
at all.

Big difference is they will then be in Texas. I know where I'm putting my money on that bet.


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posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 03:59 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks


Maybe if America didn’t supply 70% of the guns in Mexico.


Only 2 out of the top 10 guns in Mexico are from the US... Go figure. The Colt 45 and Bushmaster.



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 04:06 PM
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originally posted by: carsforkids
a reply to: Doctor Smith

First thing the cartels will do is strike america and say if you
label us terrorists we will become terrorists. Border cities like
El Paso and Brownsville be on high alert immediately. The
casinos in El Paso are but a dash from the border. Not good
at all.


Yes, appeasement has worked well for Mexico, has it not? Maybe these thugs should be hunted like the dogs that they are



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 04:11 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: Doctor Smith


Maybe if it was a gun free zone.


Maybe if America didn’t supply 70% of the guns in Mexico.


Fast And Furious Scandal



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 04:15 PM
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But they’re not terrorists. They’re criminals. They have neither political nor religious motives. They’re no more terrorists than Al Capone or Whitey Bulger. They just want to make money in a less than respectable fashion.



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: scolai

Trump plans to designate Mexican drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations. Very soon the Cartels will be a thing of the past, they'll eventually integrate into society like the Mafia.



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 04:18 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: underwerks


Maybe if America didn’t supply 70% of the guns in Mexico.


Only 2 out of the top 10 guns in Mexico are from the US... Go figure. The Colt 45 and Bushmaster.


That's an extremely bold statement to make without even so much as providing a link.

Here you go though, seems the facts completely contradict your claim.



Research shows that a majority of guns in Mexico can be traced to the U.S. A report from the U.S Government Accountability Office showed that 70 percent of guns seized in Mexico by Mexican authorities and submitted for tracing have a U.S. origin. This percentage remains consistent, said Bradley Engelbert, a spokesperson for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. And the Trump administration has recently taken steps to ease rules on gun exports, which enables manufacturers to sell guns in Mexico and Central America countries.




A report from the Center of American Progress found that the United States was the primary source of weapons used in crime in Mexico and Canada. Other countries in Central America can also trace a large proportion of guns seized in crimes to the United States. For example, the report found that from 2014 to 2016, 49 percent of crime guns seized in El Salvador were originally purchased in the U.S. In Honduras, 45 percent of guns recovered in crime scenes were traced to the United States as well.


pbs.org
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posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 04:19 PM
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originally posted by: scolai

But they’re not terrorists. They’re criminals. They have neither political nor religious motives. They’re no more terrorists than Al Capone or Whitey Bulger. They just want to make money in a less than respectable fashion.


They are extremist groups that break the law in about every way possible. When they go into a town and kill the Mayor, what do you call that? Sure seems like terrorism though not attached to a religious ideal.



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 04:19 PM
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I do not by means want to sound un american but you do
realize you are speaking of don't give a F&*k crazy assassins vs
people that most likely have t work the next day. Know
what I mean?



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 04:20 PM
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True, that. The cartels get a lot from South / Central America and Cuba, which were previously supplied with Russian / Eastern bloc arms during the cold war.

Actually, Russian / Cuban arms can be pretty good, low maintenance, and reliable, so whatever you can get?



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 04:26 PM
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You just never have anything positive to say. Dead Mexican terrorists should be celebrated. Maybe you should think about moving down there?? America bad right??a reply to: underwerks



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 04:27 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: scolai

But they’re not terrorists. They’re criminals. They have neither political nor religious motives. They’re no more terrorists than Al Capone or Whitey Bulger. They just want to make money in a less than respectable fashion.


They are extremist groups that break the law in about every way possible. When they go into a town and kill the Mayor, what do you call that? Sure seems like terrorism though not attached to a religious ideal.


When the police are too afraid to go after them and they out gun them. Sounds like terrorism to me.



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: Doctor Smith

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: scolai

But they’re not terrorists. They’re criminals. They have neither political nor religious motives. They’re no more terrorists than Al Capone or Whitey Bulger. They just want to make money in a less than respectable fashion.


They are extremist groups that break the law in about every way possible. When they go into a town and kill the Mayor, what do you call that? Sure seems like terrorism though not attached to a religious ideal.


When the police are too afraid to go after them and they out gun them. Sounds like terrorism to me.


I thought you referred to that as patriotism over there in the US.



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 05:02 PM
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when they caught the boy drug lord....they have called the boys from Detroit in to hold him while they bulldozed his residence with those 4 cars in the drive carport looking thing...then use choppers with i r to watch from above ....and police on the ground in tanks and rally round the Bradley....with a pocket full of shells....then invite the Army Rangers to town
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posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 05:07 PM
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originally posted by: carsforkids
a reply to: Homefree

I do not by means want to sound un american but you do
realize you are speaking of don't give a F&*k crazy assassins vs
people that most likely have t work the next day. Know
what I mean?


No... it will be Terrorist vs the U.S. Military....
once the Cartels are labeled as Terrorist, they are as good as dead.



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