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China due to introduce MANDATORY face scans for mobile users

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posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 07:50 AM
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If you don't conform and obey the new rules and laws, you are automatically a criminal... at least in Chinese Governments eyes!

WOw... just saw a report about the new face recognition mandatory scheme in china for those with mobile phones. If you don't get facial scanning, you can't have a mobile phone and you won't be able to shop without facial recognition! How bad is this? This is a deep invasion of everyone's privacy, already they track every citizen, who they talk to, who they meet, where they go, everything, now they want to know who is using a mobile phone, not just name and address etc but face ID. Add to this the points based system and the Chinese folk are pretty screwed! Everyone with a mobile has to have it and here is short video of the Chinese surveillance system in full force:



Link to report: www.bbc.co.uk...

Some of the report:

People in China are now required to have their faces scanned when registering new mobile phone services, as the authorities seek to verify the identities of the country's hundreds of millions of internet users.




The government says it wants to "protect the legitimate rights and interest of citizens in cyberspace".
yeah right



Jeffrey Ding, a researcher on Chinese artificial intelligence at Oxford University, said that one of China's motivations for getting rid of anonymous phone numbers and internet accounts was to boost cyber-security and reduce internet fraud.
yeah right



China is often described as a surveillance state - in 2017 it had 170 million CCTV cameras in place across the country with the goal of installing an estimated 400 million new ones by 2020.


I have to wonder if this is the next step for the UK Government aswell?? And eventually the whole world!

We have reached the point of no return or you won't be able to eat soon enough without being registered in some database! And if I was being monitored now and have to have facial recognition to post on ATS, the cops would be knocking on my door just for this thread alone.... why? Because I'm against the surveillance state!
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posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 08:38 AM
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Whew...that’s one smart scanner.



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 09:22 AM
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When I was in China there was facial recognition for dispensing toilet paper in public toilets. You have to scan your face before getting paper. I was told it was to stop stealing and encourage clean practises.

Can’t recall if it was Beijing or Shanghai, the latter I think.

They require absolute control over the populace. People think this is slipping. It isn’t. The populace are becoming more aware of the outside world but are still very brainwashed. Not all, of course, but on the whole.



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 09:30 AM
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a reply to: and14263

That's crazy!

Scanning your face so they know you are in the toilet? Crazy!

I'd take my own if I lived there or visited there which i've decided i'm never going to do.



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 09:32 AM
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a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

Remember-this kind of technological authoritarian wet dream did not start in China-rather it is a direct result of the post 911 world in the west.
You know 911-that horrific event which led to many western leaders telling us that "we must not change the way we live our lives in the free world."
Those same leaders who then proceeded to implement the biggest reductions of individual privacy since the Stasi/Gestapo.
In the name of our safety and freedom no less.

Now China have seen that our "freedom" in the west is nothing but a permeable membrane which can be easily penetrated through the trojan horse of globalisation.

So today we may be disturbed at how China has gone full totalitarian technocracy,but its actually far worse than that-these systems are being looked at(and implemented) by leaders all over the world as possible "solutions" for the future of our once free society.

Countries are liteally queuing up to be assimalated into the real borg.
The Huwaiei/ZTE nightmare of allowing the Chinese government access and control of our telecommunications infrastructure was just the beginning-



The effects of China’s high-tech surveillance model reach well beyond its borders: Increasingly China has been selling its blueprint, including the software and hardware it uses in its surveillance regime, abroad.
These outbound plans are suffused with the potential for the development of security societies, particularly in countries managed by regimes with poor human rights records and where democratic institutions are either weak or are still in their infancy.
China’s surveillance technology exports could have a considerable impact abroad, potentially weakening or undermining the development of free and open societies.

thediplomat.com...

What they want is a global system of total control through opressive technologigal prison camp like systems where no one can do or say anything that the Chinese state do not approve of.

This is the model that TPTB want for us all-a nightmare dystopia where YOU are judged,sentenced,controlled and oppressed daily through AI super surveillance controllers with no morals,no humanity,no regard for the individual and no freedom.

The Matrix looks less like a movie a more like a prophecy every day,and the whole world seems to be willingly going along with it.

What happened to us?
Have we fallen into a dark parallel timeline?

To see how far we have fallen-ask yourself what do you think would have been the response from the "free world"in say,the 1960s if the Soviet Union had gone on the open markets and tried to flood the world with its phone tapping/radio surveilance/spying technology-and pitched it as the solution to the problems of the future.

The really sad thing is,unless something massive happens-I am talking global nuclear war/multiple meteor strike/gamma ray burst-we are looking at a future where all of our children will be batteries in the matrix,and they will know nothing else.
Forget History when the AIs take over-history will be rewritten,and you will beg to be assimilated.





posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 09:37 AM
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How anyone justifies doing business with China is beyond me. Consumers need to wake up and stop supporting companies who do business with and in China.



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 10:19 AM
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Well, I mean it's China so no one is surprised. What might surprise some people is there are people all over the world who would be just fine with this. You can't save the world from a totalitarian state it wants. You can only wonder if the world will ever be normal again. Is it possible that global totalitarianism will be the final chapter in human history? Like would it not be sad if that became the new normal and it just never ended because it was impossible to defeat?



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 10:22 AM
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The majority of the authoritarian measures taking place in China today in relation to tech, the state and society will be global policy within 20 years. Humanity is entering its next great dark age. And it will ironically come at a time when things have never been better on earth. But as Frederick Douglas once said, without struggle there is no progress. Those who perish within the next few years will be considered the lucky ones.

It's hard to see this ever reversing itself either unless something catastrophic happens that renders computers useless. Of course, if that happens that means many millions will die as well in the reset. So it is a lose, lose. But maybe those who survive can bring forth a new civilization that can harness the god-like powers of our technology without surrendering our humanity to it at the same time.
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posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 10:44 AM
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China is the progressive model for the world. Authoritarianism and a tightly controlled population with a dose of capitalism. You can see this is the direction Democrats are going.



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 10:50 AM
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a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

So whats the problem?
China is a socialist dream state where everyone is treated the same.
It's not like there is an elitist one percent in control.



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 10:57 AM
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a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

IF they were ever to implement that here in the US, I think vigilante justice would prevail.

Pocket sized hammer and multi-tool sales would go through the roof.

Landfills would be overrun with techno surveillance garbage.

The people would see the faults of a technocracy and revert to simpler ways of life with hard lines and snail mail.


... wishful thinking.



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 11:00 AM
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originally posted by: Edumakated
Consumers need to wake up and stop supporting companies who do business with and in China.


Yeah, that'll happen. Everyone likes their cheap consumerist crap, and we're in the holiday season so it's on like Donkey Kong.



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 11:00 AM
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a reply to: MarkOfTheV

Did that happen in the USA after the warentless wiretaps/blanket data harvesting?
Or did it happen when folks got put on a no fly terror watchlist for expressing an opinion on the internet?



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 11:08 AM
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a reply to: Silcone Synapse

Yeah, this future sounds terrible and unfortunately my latest phone is a Huawei but I never thought or saw anything regarding Huawei phones!

I'm not attached to the cloud though or am I using face recog tech on my phone, I don't associate with anyone in China and I only send photo's to my GF/Fiancee.

But seriously not going to buy anything Chinese in the future, when this phone is buggered i will go for Sony or Motorolla, something like that



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 11:12 AM
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a reply to: sooth

Good way to look at it but I think we're screwed and the young generation are screwed even more... I mean I'm over 40 but those being born today and under 20 will be total slaves to this system and will have to obey or die through starvation or other means.

I think people have used tech for the wrong reasons, it's only because of sci-fi books and sci-fi films we have entered this stage I think. Would this stage still be here if some writer hadn't envisioned it?



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 11:15 AM
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a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

They'll try to sell this type of surveillance to the West as something everyone has and can't live without just like smartphones. Like sheep we will all willingly give up all our freedoms and privacy all for convenience and newest tech.

of course i might be wrong and we fight back but i wouldn't be surprised either way



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 11:18 AM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
China is the progressive model for the world. Authoritarianism and a tightly controlled population with a dose of capitalism. You can see this is the direction Democrats are going.


What can we do about it? That's the question.

What does the future look like?

Blade Runner ?

Matrix?

Demolition Man?

All 3 or something much worse?





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posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: CrazeeWorld777
Huawei are just one of the chinese companies who are selling very cheap mobile infrastructure for the 5g network,if they own that it doesn't really matter who makes the phones-as all the data runs through the Huawei transmitters/recievers and data centers.
Because they sell for cheap,everyones buying it-but there have been concerns that these chinese companies are basically run by the state,and could collect and use any data which runs through their networks globally.

More info:

www.theguardian.com...

ccdcoe.org...

www.reuters.com...




posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 11:20 AM
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a reply to: MarkOfTheV

Yea, we've all just accepted this future that's coming because we all love the ease of things at our finger tips!

We've screwed ourselves.



posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: Silcone Synapse

I havn't singed up to any Huawei products gaurantee thing, I take it thats a good move as they won't have my personal info? Only o2 will have it although i just read on one of those links that o2 have teamed up with Huawei 5G




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