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Another socialist myth debunked: inequality has not been rising

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posted on Nov, 29 2019 @ 06:27 PM
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originally posted by: pexx421

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: face23785


America is the Only Nation on the Face of this GODS GREEN EARTH that Professes it's Basic Tenets as being one of Personal Freedom and Liberty that can give any Human Being the Chance to Better his or hers Born Into Lot in Life . A Nation that Excepts a Person for what his or her Potential and Personal Drive can Bring them in a Free and Open Society . America Will ALWAYS be the Envy of the World for just that Reason . For those who might Disagree with my Proclamation there , Go EAT Dirt ...........



Right. And we were bringing democracy to Iraq and Libya too.




Don't you mean freedom




posted on Nov, 29 2019 @ 06:53 PM
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That too!



posted on Nov, 29 2019 @ 06:57 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: tgidkp

But the left cant meme...


If you think those are clever memes, no you guys can't meme.



posted on Nov, 29 2019 @ 07:54 PM
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originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: tgidkp

But the left cant meme...


If you think those are clever memes, no you guys can't meme.




You sure it isn't you lacking a sense of humour ....



posted on Nov, 29 2019 @ 09:25 PM
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a reply to: face23785

Thing is they arent clever they are reality... that's the hard pill to swallow.



posted on Nov, 29 2019 @ 10:17 PM
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Life in the mid-1800's compared to life now: all socialist talking points thoroughly debunked.

Capitalism and absolute liberty works. Sure, its sometimes dangerous (free-will and all) and not everybody gets to be chief fry cook. It has produced the greatest amount of wealth for the greatest number of people ever seen. Our quality of life is excellent.

Socialist babies whine about not having money for nice homes, new ipods and the latest $19.99 vegan sandwich or whether someone says a bad word or calls someone a bad name that hurts their teeny fragile soft little feelings. These are first world problem folks.

The mere support of socialism is an act of violence against every real American who is willing to accept that freedom always comes with a price and that price is NEVER too much to pay.



posted on Nov, 29 2019 @ 10:19 PM
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a reply to: pexx421

They stagnate under socialist give-aways, extreme taxation (theft) and paying everybody the same for unequal work performed.

Things are looking up because we're back in charge. Yes, I know, didn't do so well under Bush 43. You can thank endless war for that, something shared by neo-cons and neo-liberals alike and apparently those "change with the winds AKA prevailing group-think" shrill, grating progressives also.



posted on Nov, 29 2019 @ 10:24 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

You deserve an award for getting all those buzz words into those two paragraphs.



posted on Nov, 29 2019 @ 11:57 PM
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Horse-crap!

"income share" does NOT equal wealth equality.



posted on Nov, 30 2019 @ 12:36 AM
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Wealth inequality is not immoral. But influencing
class warfare is.

Most millionaires in America, impact millions
of people. The more you impact, directly or
indirectly that provides value for others
is the factor that generates wealth.

If my neighbor invents a toilet
that never gets backed up with sh@t.
His invention will provide value to others.
He then sells his toilet invention for millions.

According to the egalitarian's
inequality mindset, some form of
injustice has been perpetrated.
When actually the inventor,
businessman, and entrepreneur
has been justly rewarded for providing
value.

If only my neighbor would invent
a toilet to flush these marxist economic
inequality ideas down the toilet.

They'll never connect the dots that
personal choice with it's cumulative
consequences is what makes people
rich or stay in poverty.

Every person is responsible and accountable
for his own wealth, or lack thereof.

Poor choices make for poor people.
Better choices make for the middle class.
Extraordinary choices make for the rich.



posted on Nov, 30 2019 @ 07:01 AM
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a reply to: JBurns

Libertarians hate capitalism. It impedes on their freedoms, and other peoples as well. Capitalism requires cooperation and a big market to thrive.

You cant build capital without putting workers under someones thumb, that's anti liberty.
edit on 30-11-2019 by strongfp because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 30 2019 @ 09:39 AM
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originally posted by: pexx421

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: face23785


America is the Only Nation on the Face of this GODS GREEN EARTH that Professes it's Basic Tenets as being one of Personal Freedom and Liberty that can give any Human Being the Chance to Better his or hers Born Into Lot in Life . A Nation that Excepts a Person for what his or her Potential and Personal Drive can Bring them in a Free and Open Society . America Will ALWAYS be the Envy of the World for just that Reason . For those who might Disagree with my Proclamation there , Go EAT Dirt ...........





No , NOT if they Do Not Want it . We are Not Our Brothers Keeper .......

Right. And we were bringing democracy to Iraq and Libya too.



posted on Nov, 30 2019 @ 10:32 AM
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a reply to: strongfp




Libertarians hate capitalism. It impedes on their freedoms, and other peoples as well. Capitalism
requires cooperation and a big market to thrive. You cant build capital without putting workers
under someones thumb, that's anti liberty.



Slavery was abolished in 1865, therefore no working man or woman is under anyone's thumb.
A Nation that exposes Liberty, has learned that no one should be forced to exchange
their time for profit. Everyone in the working class chose his or her present economic
position. Which he or she can change by simply aligning with a greater purpose and
ambition to achieve more.

Every man who invest money to generate more money is a capitalist. When capital
accumulates it expands the economy leading to more employment. Unless
someone is living in the forest or jungle, they are benefiting in one form or
another from capitalism.

Capitalism is Great because;

No better system allows people to make their own damn decisions.
No better system can elevate poverty to wealth.
No better system incentivizes it's people to creative endeavors.
No better system allows the consumers to chose whatever they damn want.
No better system encapsulates, protect and expands political freedom.
No better system supplies social benefits for those in need.
No better system supplies advantageous conditions for a standing military.


Suggested reading for the misinformed...

The following books from my hero Thomas Sowell
are invaluable that invalidate every argument against
capitalism.

Book #1 Basic Economics: A Common Sense Guide to the Economy
Book #2 Applied Economics: Applied Economics: Thinking Beyond Stage One.
Book #3 Marxism: Philosophy and Economics

At the end of the day, any idea/philosophy that does
not help, support, and elevate a man is useless.

At the end of the day, the anti-capitalist will choose
to complain about a system in which he derives benefit.

Odd, but true.




edit on 11/30/2019 by MrBlaq because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 30 2019 @ 11:16 AM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: face23785

Thing is they arent clever they are reality... that's the hard pill to swallow.


Only reality to people with single digit IQs.



posted on Nov, 30 2019 @ 11:53 AM
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a reply to: MrBlaq

Money isn't capital. It's only the means of how capital can be moved around. It's worthless unless labor or capital is put into it.

What would money be worth in say a CNC shop without either the people to run the machines or the capital (the material, the machines etc,) in order to build more capital in exchange for literally just numbers and paper?

It doesn't matter if slavery was abolished, but wanna know something else? Freed slaves were also put under the control of government to not be able to purchase land or own a business. But that's another story.

Capitalism gets mixed up with 'free market'. Free market allows each person to pursue their own interests as long as they abide by laws. Simple enough, capitalism is taking advantage and gaining the best bang for your buck that you put in. THe US is a shotty form of free market - capitalism, which has evolved into this strange form of corporate plutocracy and is anything but a libertarian free market state.
People may WANT to choose to not work, they might want to open their own business or work at this place or that place, but reality is, money, fiat currency has been given more value then the capital that is produced, and even worth more then the labor put in. So yes, people are put under the thumb of capitalists, it will always end up like that. not everyone can be the boss.



posted on Nov, 30 2019 @ 11:54 AM
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a reply to: Edumakated

Are you lost? /pol/ is over that way. >>>>



posted on Nov, 30 2019 @ 05:33 PM
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originally posted by: MrBlaq
a reply to: strongfp




Libertarians hate capitalism. It impedes on their freedoms, and other peoples as well. Capitalism
requires cooperation and a big market to thrive. You cant build capital without putting workers
under someones thumb, that's anti liberty.



Slavery was abolished in 1865, therefore no working man or woman is under anyone's thumb.
A Nation that exposes Liberty, has learned that no one should be forced to exchange
their time for profit. Everyone in the working class chose his or her present economic
position. Which he or she can change by simply aligning with a greater purpose and
ambition to achieve more.

Every man who invest money to generate more money is a capitalist. When capital
accumulates it expands the economy leading to more employment. Unless
someone is living in the forest or jungle, they are benefiting in one form or
another from capitalism.

Capitalism is Great because;

No better system allows people to make their own damn decisions.
No better system can elevate poverty to wealth.
No better system incentivizes it's people to creative endeavors.
No better system allows the consumers to chose whatever they damn want.
No better system encapsulates, protect and expands political freedom.
No better system supplies social benefits for those in need.
No better system supplies advantageous conditions for a standing military.


Suggested reading for the misinformed...

The following books from my hero Thomas Sowell
are invaluable that invalidate every argument against
capitalism.

Book #1 Basic Economics: A Common Sense Guide to the Economy
Book #2 Applied Economics: Applied Economics: Thinking Beyond Stage One.
Book #3 Marxism: Philosophy and Economics

At the end of the day, any idea/philosophy that does
not help, support, and elevate a man is useless.

At the end of the day, the anti-capitalist will choose
to complain about a system in which he derives benefit.

Odd, but true.





Somebody apparently bought into all that American exceptionalism. Too bad it’s all lies.



posted on Nov, 30 2019 @ 05:40 PM
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a reply to: face23785




In fact, it's the cover article of the next issue, it's not just buried in the back somewhere by one of their 3rd rate writers.


So you debunked a myth with top secret alchemy and non-data for offshore accounts?

That's pretty impressive in a funny way... for a third rate poster.






posted on Dec, 1 2019 @ 07:45 PM
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a reply to: strongfp

You assume people are under the thumb of capitalists.
Which implies people do not have individual choice
to take responsibility and be accountable for their
own wealth.

Your limited perspective is only in your own mind.
Reality in America invalidates your perspective,
as thousands of people seek to start and run
their own business every year. If people believed
they were hampered, or under someones
thumb they would never even try.

According to a 2017 survey from Fidelity
Investments,they found that 88 percent
of millionaires are self-made. Apparently
someone forgot to brain wash these
self-made millionaires that they're under
the thumb of capitalists, and they can never
be their own boss.

Just confess you can't develop a better
system than Capitalism that provides all
the benefits as I previously posted.

You ended your perspective by stating
"not everyone can be the boss"
Therefore I doubt anything I write will convince
you otherwise. I'm the boss, and so are
thousands of other people who have enough
imagination, determination and common sense
to turn an idea into wealth.

If it's not working for you, I suggest you start to
take responsibility and be accountable for your
own wealth or lack thereof.

Unfortunately a misapprehension of what's possible
leads some to adopt a victimization mindset.
In their world someone or something else is at fault.








edit on 12/1/2019 by MrBlaq because: Trying to help



posted on Dec, 2 2019 @ 04:22 AM
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a reply to: MrBlaq

I strongly disagree with what you're implying.

Not everyone can just go start their own business. I pursued a career to offer skills to an employer, I should be treated and compensated in a moral and ethical manner.

Just because you and what a literal blip on the radar of people who apparently are more responsible then me because I didnt start my own business pursued that path in life doesnt mean capitalists dont abuse their workers.

The points I am making are going way over your head.

I even stated that it takes a good worker employer relation to make capitalism work. Guess you missed that part.
edit on 2-12-2019 by strongfp because: (no reason given)




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