Actress And Friend Get Brutally Assaulted Leaving NY Bar Where's The MSM Coverage?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: shawmanfromny

*sigh*

White people deserve to be beaten because they have money and they're white.

I don't know how many times this needs to be explained to some people!

You can point out the truth, but some people never get it.

originally posted by: operation mindcrime
a reply to: Vroomfondel

A representative from Sky Room told DailyMail.com 'the story and narrative heard thus far is absolutely and positively inaccurate'. 

The spokesperson said they 'are investigating thoroughly' and after reviewing footage have 'clear and convincing evidence' to back that up.

Peace

Prolly edited lol is what will be claimed.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I agree that it is suspicious. It would be blatantly disingenuous to say otherwise. But I have a gut feeling that no one takes method acting that far. Still, it will take more convincing evidence before I can liken this to the jussie smollett story.

That having been said, it is a rare occasion that, after a night of drinking, any one side of a story is entirely accurate.

Edit: even if you are correct and this is just like jussie smollett, there is still one glaring difference asked in the OP. Where is all the media coverage?

a reply to: Vroomfondel

I'm not saying she's acting, she obviously got the crap kicked out of her. I'm just suspicious that she called the paper and hasn't filed a police report post haste.

a reply to: shawmanfromny

You get what you vote for. Eventually, white liberal women will regret their voting records as the socialist left radicalizes minorities against them.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

Unlike the Smollett case which was fabricated from the ground up, this one just seems like something did really happen where she really did get her ass kicked, but how she actually got her ass kicked seems suspicious. A well to do white woman not immediately calling the police after a crime just doesn't add up with me.

a reply to: captainpudding

I imagine they left the scene before the police arrived. I know I wouldn't have wanted to stick around after a beating like that. So she goes to the hospital instead. Police may also have gone there to get a statement, I don't know.

One of my first thoughts upon reading this was to get this story in the news asap. After jussie smollett, any celeb is going to be suspect making a claim like this. Getting the story out there from her side first was probably a good idea. With her side being the only side out there any naysayers have to guess or prevaricate. That only helps her.

That being said, I think she should file a report in a reasonable amount of time. The longer she waits the less reliable her story will be. If she is convinced the people can be identified and she is innocent, then she doesn't have to be in any kind of hurry to do anything. It makes sense to get the report in as soon as possible, but there may be something preventing her from doing that. Maybe she and her friends were threatened? After a beating like that threats of more violence can shut a person up pretty quick.

I am curious as to how this will all end up...

originally posted by: captainpudding
Just like the Smollett case, this one doesn't pass the smell test. According to the story her and her friends were essentially involved in a gang assault . . .and nobody called the police? Not only that, so far the only legal action seems to be her trying to prevent the bar from releasing CCTV footage of what happened? She also seems to be going out of her way in the story to mention her new show and when it starts, this story has just about as many plot holes as the Smollett case did.

I agree, something isn't adding up. But to be fair they never said a "Gang" nor did they say not to release any CCTV they went to a judge to place a request to have the night club "PRESERVE" the CCTV footage of that night. Meaning they don't want them to delete it which is contrary to what you are claiming.

Now I believe the whole truth isn't being revealed but at the same time lets not skew the facts either.

As far as what I think happened by the information provided without skewing it is....They went out, they got drunk, probably a little too much, started ragging on some other women and got told to chill or leave so they paid the $1k tab and moved on to a different part, got rowdy there and got asked to leave (hence why the bouncer was man handling these women) I'm pretty sure she made some sort of remark to instigate the "racial attack" and the reason to preserve the footage? well the lawyers want to see what's on there so they can build a case based on what is on the footage hence why they didn't file a police report yet. They need to see what kind of story they can fabricate from the footage that they believe will stick. I'm not a lawyer nor do I claim to know the legal system, but when something happens that require a police report, you file one, you don't wait until later to file one. Something tells me they saw a chance to make $$$ by embellishing the story but first they have to make one up.

I believe she did get beat, but I doubt it happened the way she claimed. That's just my opinion based on the facts provided.

Condolences to Jennifer Agostini, and her friend.
May the healing process induce an epiphany to protect
themselves in the future by all means necessary.

To those wondering about the lack of a police report.
Places like NY, Philly, DC, and Baltimore are influenced
by a 'never snitch' attitude. An attitude influenced by
experience or hearing about victims and witnesses
assaulted again. Sometimes permanently.

I don't agree with the culture, yet the cesspool
exist.

originally posted by: operation mindcrime
a reply to: shawmanfromny

Yeah...no...not touching this with a ten foot pole.

I've learned to hold judgement untill both sides of this story are told so I hope the video surveillance will shed some light on this...

Apperantly the bouncers were among the attackers so that tells you there has got to be an other side to this.

Peace

What do you think a woman in her 40s — an actress and model — could have possibly done to deserve such a beating? A beating by a dozen or more people calling her hateful, racist epithets? Would you be as hesitant to withhold judgment if the victim were a 40-year-old black actress/model?

originally posted by: Scapegrace

originally posted by: operation mindcrime
a reply to: shawmanfromny

Yeah...no...not touching this with a ten foot pole.

I've learned to hold judgement untill both sides of this story are told so I hope the video surveillance will shed some light on this...

Apperantly the bouncers were among the attackers so that tells you there has got to be an other side to this.

Peace

What do you think a woman in her 40s — an actress and model — could have possibly done to deserve such a beating? A beating by a dozen or more people calling her hateful, racist epithets? Would you be as hesitant to withhold judgment if the victim were a 40-year-old black actress/model?

To deserve it? nothing, but that doesn't mean she didn't first run her mouth which in result got her beat. I don't believe she is as innocent as she claims. Did she deserve it? who knows, maybe she yelled out racial slurs to them first and they retaliated right back but with fists instead of words. Again, maybe she didn't deserve it but i'm sure she did something to cause it.

originally posted by: Scapegrace
What do you think a woman in her 40s — an actress and model — could have possibly done to deserve such a beating? A beating by a dozen or more people calling her hateful, racist epithets? Would you be as hesitant to withhold judgment if the victim were a 40-year-old black actress/model?

What are you talking about?

I will always be hesitant to judge untill at least both sides of a story are told.

Do you have all the facts? No you don't...yet you are willing to draw judgement based on a one-sided report.

And if this didn't say enough about your character you double down and assume I would be raising hell if this was a black actress.

You want to make this into an other left vs right thing? I got news for you, I think both your camps are insane and will remain a firm supporter of rational thought...

Peace

originally posted by: MrBlaq
Condolences to Jennifer Agostini, and her friend.
May the healing process induce an epiphany to protect
themselves in the future by all means necessary.

To those wondering about the lack of a police report.
Places like NY, Philly, DC, and Baltimore are influenced
by a 'never snitch' attitude. An attitude influenced by
experience or hearing about victims and witnesses
assaulted again. Sometimes permanently.

I don't agree with the culture, yet the cesspool
exist.

Don’t snitch, just run to court and to the New York Post?

Hmmm.

a reply to: Gryphon66

If the actress was a problem, why didn’t the bar handle the matter legally? And call law enforcement to deal with the situation. There is no justification for a mob beat down. If 15 cops beat down 2 women, it would be a civil rights matter. But its ok for a mob to beat down two women? If any thing, management of the bar is obligated to call if there was a mob being disorderly. I guess not calling the cops argument works against both parties.......

But I guess you’ll say something snide and try moving the goalpost.

a reply to: neutronflux

Here's a goalpost I'd like to move...

You are staging this as if two poor defenceless women got assaulted out of thin air.

"She was with model Prendinellys Garcia, Garcia’s husband Cal Stuart, and Christopher Selletti to celebrate actress Nina Martinez’s birthday."

How big was this group?

We know the bouncer had about 10 to 15 friends.

"Jennifer Agostini’s friend attempted to go back inside to find her credit card, the bouncer “pushed the young lady” and then “proceeded to continue to manhandle two women.”

"Cal Stuart intervened, reportedlytelling the man, “You don’t have to put your hands on a woman like that.” The unidentified bouncer reportedly “threatened to harm” Stuart."

Blablabla...

To me this has all the characteristics of a fight between two groups where two women happen to be in the line of fire...just a normal Saturday night incident and hardly a hatecrime but I'll reserve judgement untill a judge says something about this.

Peace

a reply to: neutronflux

I have made no claims about beatings or the lack thereof.

We do not have all the facts.

a reply to: operation mindcrime

You

You are staging this as if two poor defenceless women got assaulted out of thin air.

Quote where I stated such a thing?

This is Jennifer Agostini group’s account. Now please cite evidence to contradict the account, or cite why they deserved to be beat down. And why management of the bar did not call law enforcement?

Actress left disfigured after being brutally beaten by bouncer in racist attack at New York bar: "F**k those white b****es'

meaww.com...

They were already in the lobby of the venue when one group member remember that the club still had the card on which a $350 fee was held.

However, when they attempted to go back, a 6 feet 2 inches African-American bouncer pushed one of the women in the group. "It was just this stampede as we were leaving. We just got rushed and assaulted by I can’t tell you how many people," Agostini told The New York Post.

According to court documents which ordered the venue to hold the surveillance footage from the assault, swimsuit model Perendinellys Garcia, 46, was "beaten about her face, body and limbs" and she received "several scalp lacerations."

Garcia's husband, Cal Stuart, says he tried to prevent the women from getting attacked but "gang members" who were the bouncer's friends beat him to the ground when he tried to intervene.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: neutronflux

I have made no claims about beatings or the lack thereof.

We do not have all the facts.

You do seem to be justifying the beat down thought. Quote where you condemn the violent outcome and the management’s lack of concern regarding the mob action.

a reply to: operation mindcrime

Ok. If they are all guilty of disturbing the peace, lock them all up.

You are staging this as if two poor defenceless women got assaulted out of thin air.

When has a mob ever needed a valid reason?

Wrongly beaten by mob as rapist, he sues city, cops
www.inquirer.com...

There is a reason for the term Mob Rule.

control of a political situation by those outside the conventional or lawful realm, typically involving violence and intimidation.

www.lexico.com...

It seems you and others are defending mob rule. I’ll go out on a limb, and would say many people on ATS are against mob rule. And the individuals seemingly supportive of mob rule in this thread is what I think some people are outraged over?

Especially in New York where the below is law:

In NYS, unlike Florida, a citizen has the duty to retreat from attackers if they feel they can safely to so

jacksonbergman.com...

The bouncer had no right to instigate any physical violence. Period.

a reply to: neutronflux

You are pretty passionate about this aren't you?

I'm not defending mob rule and I'm also not defending anybody needing a beating but I'm not really prepared to jump on your little bandwagon of hate crime...

This story has a lot of holes and you nor I have the full info to draw conclusions.

If you want to speculate about who is right that's fine...have fun.

Peace