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Was Obama the decision maker on Sanders in 2016 also?

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posted on Nov, 27 2019 @ 10:09 AM
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It has come to light that former president Obama has stated that if Sanders was to get the nomination in 2020 he would have to step in to stop it. Remember, in 2006 someone stepped in and told the Clintons to back off of Obama...and they did.



President Obama privately said he would speak up to stop Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) from becoming the Democratic presidential nominee, Politico reported Tuesday.

Here is another good article on hoe he feels...makes Obama out to be the victim also...

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The former president reportedly said if Sanders held a strong lead in the Democratic primary, he would speak out to prevent him from becoming the nominee.

A close adviser to Obama told Politico he could not confirm whether Obama would stand up against Sanders.


Remember, Obama just came out and warned the DNC that they are heading too far left. He will not endorse the moderate Biden so there are not many left. IN the article they also discuss his relationship with Warren.

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ut earlier this month, the former president warned the 2020 candidates of leaning too far left at a speaking engagement, saying “the average American doesn’t think we have to completely tear down the system and remake it.”

Politico also described the relationship between Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and Obama as “famously complicated.” The former president reportedly said in a private conversation that if Democrats supported her when she was considering a 2016 run, it would serve as a rejection of his economic policies.


Now, what this bring to light is just how much he is still pulling those strings behind the scenes and that TPTB who once trusted HRC are not longer there for her.

There are those who still deny it but the 2016 primary was rigged. Wiki emails helped to confirm. Remember it was HRC's campaign that took over the DNC during the election. Debbie Wasserman Schultz made sure of it and then Brazile 'cleared' her but we all know what happened.

Obama was complicit in helping the DNC and HRC in the 2016 election with what they did with FISA and all of the other alphabet ops run against a private citizens POTUS campaign so why would we not think it will happen again with those still in positions of power who are actively trying to remove our current president.

So here we are with 2016 2.0 for the DNC and robbing/fixing a nomination. The only thing is WHO are they going to actually give it to?
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posted on Nov, 27 2019 @ 10:16 AM
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I think it's commonly accepted that in return for peacefully stepping aside in 08', HRC was assured of the next DNC nomination.



posted on Nov, 27 2019 @ 10:24 AM
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What this brings to light is that all those conspiracy theories that were created about Obama during his eight years were completely false.

Bernie is arguably the farthest Left candidate the DNC is running. Meanwhile there were a lot of people on this site that were claiming Obama was an out and out Communist. So what does it say when he's pushing back hard against a Democratic Socialist?

It says that he was just another middle of the road, supporter of the status quo.



posted on Nov, 27 2019 @ 10:26 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
What this brings to light is that all those conspiracy theories that were created about Obama during his eight years were completely false.

Bernie is arguably the farthest Left candidate the DNC is running. Meanwhile there were a lot of people on this site that were claiming Obama was an out and out Communist. So what does it say when he's pushing back hard against a Democratic Socialist?

It says that he was just another middle of the road, supporter of the status quo.

Obama was a feckless empty suit that followed order from his handlers.



posted on Nov, 27 2019 @ 11:07 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
What this brings to light is that all those conspiracy theories that were created about Obama during his eight years were completely false.

Bernie is arguably the farthest Left candidate the DNC is running. Meanwhile there were a lot of people on this site that were claiming Obama was an out and out Communist. So what does it say when he's pushing back hard against a Democratic Socialist?

It says that he was just another middle of the road, supporter of the status quo.


Actually it doesn't. It is about approach. Obama believes in Fabian socialism. He is a gradualist. While Bernie is a reckless old half-wit shouting about revolutions without even fully understanding the ramifications of his words. One is intelligent, the other is buffoonery. One is about measured, effectual change. The other is about upending everything overnight because you're a petulant brat that didn't get everything you want it life.

Obama is still about democratic socialism, but he doesn't believe in cutting off his nose to spite his face. Obama is trying to have his Lincoln moment and be a figure for preserving the Union.

If Bernie were to be put in office tomorrow he'd be about as effectual as Trump in terms of actual progress and would be just as polarizing with the same astronomical fallout on the other end of the political spectrum. This is what Obama hopes to avoid. Scorched earth. It doesn't mean he doesn't believe in democratic socialism. It means he wants there to actually be a democracy where democratic socialist principles and reforms can be applied.

The fact that so many people don't seem to grasp this is alarming to me.



posted on Nov, 27 2019 @ 11:09 AM
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Obama illegally spied on a Republican Presidential campaign. Very low morals.



posted on Nov, 27 2019 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: matafuchs

Obama is an authoritarian douche.

Sanders is just saying what the rest of the left is thinking.



posted on Nov, 27 2019 @ 11:16 AM
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a reply to: PurpleFox

Isn't that what I just said?

Almost everyone on here acts like he was the Second Coming of Lenin. In truth, he was Black Romney.



posted on Nov, 27 2019 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: Mach2

Except it was not peacefully.

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Only days before he will nominate Barack Obama for re-election, a new report claims that in 2008, former President Bill Clinton said of him: “A few years ago, this guy would have been carrying our bags.”

Clinton allegedly made the racially insensitive remark to Sen. Ted Kennedy as he tried to convince the liberal lion to endorse his wife, Hillary, Obama’s rival for the Democratic nomination, according to The New Yorker.

Kennedy endorsed Obama.

The author of the article, Ryan Lizza, said he he heard about the comment from legendary NBC newsman Tim Russert, who died in 2008.

The reported comment was similar to one attributed to Clinton in a 2010 book.

“A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee,” Clinton is quoted as saying in “Game Change,” by John Heilemann and Mark Halperin.

Clinton’s speech to the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, NC, isn’t until Wednesday night — but the former president is getting attention for remarks he has already made.

He has, for example, called Obama “incompetent” and “an amateur” who has no clue about how the world operates, according to an article in Sunday’s Post by Edward Klein, author of “The Amateur: Barack Obama in the White House.”


I was always in the thought also that there was something they had over them to have her step aside in 07. They were however needed again and she was SecState, the CF made billions and she ran in 2016 because at that point they had Obama over a barrel so to speak on things he did and agreed to. HRC it put where she is needed. She is also the only first lady to still have her husband in office and ALSO a Senator.

It all comes down to money and the CF now is in such decline it confirms pay to play which was always described as a right wing conspiracy....



posted on Nov, 27 2019 @ 11:21 AM
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a reply to: sooth

Nice Post....


Obama knows how to play the role like Deniro does in movies...



posted on Nov, 27 2019 @ 11:56 AM
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The first problem is Obama even running his mouth.

His terms are over.

He needs to stay out of it.

Between this and his Biden remarks.

It just doesn't fly.

An EX president participating in someone elses show ?

He needs to but out.



posted on Nov, 27 2019 @ 11:58 AM
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Was Obama the decision maker on Sanders in 2016 also?


Of course he was...

...and Podesta was the henchman who made it happen.



posted on Nov, 29 2019 @ 03:36 PM
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originally posted by: sooth
If Bernie were to be put in office tomorrow he'd be about as effectual as Trump in terms of actual progress

Oh, please... Trump is one of if not the most effectual Presidents in modern history. Socialist/Commie Bernie would be about as effective as a half-eaten turnip would be in ending world hunger.


The fact that so many people don't seem to grasp this is alarming to me.

The fact that you could type this without sarcasm tags is... hillaryious.



posted on Nov, 29 2019 @ 03:41 PM
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It's ironic that they appear to be ignoring Obama for now. Like him or hate him, Obama knows how to get elected. Hillary's team blew off Bill's advice all through the 2016 election and it cost Hillary her chance. Bill was another guy, like him or hate him, he's a great politician. They ignore guys like Clinton and now Obama? Who the hell is running the show over there?



posted on Nov, 29 2019 @ 03:46 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
What this brings to light is that all those conspiracy theories that were created about Obama during his eight years were completely false.

Bernie is arguably the farthest Left candidate the DNC is running. Meanwhile there were a lot of people on this site that were claiming Obama was an out and out Communist. So what does it say when he's pushing back hard against a Democratic Socialist?

It says that he was just another middle of the road, supporter of the status quo.


Proves nothing. Sanders is not OBAMA'S communist. Obama would pick the commie he wishes, and it was never Bernie.



posted on Nov, 29 2019 @ 03:50 PM
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originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
What this brings to light is that all those conspiracy theories that were created about Obama during his eight years were completely false.

Bernie is arguably the farthest Left candidate the DNC is running. Meanwhile there were a lot of people on this site that were claiming Obama was an out and out Communist. So what does it say when he's pushing back hard against a Democratic Socialist?

It says that he was just another middle of the road, supporter of the status quo.


Proves nothing. Sanders is not OBAMA'S communist. Obama would pick the commie he wishes, and it was never Bernie.


You didn't expect an actual nuanced analysis did you? "Obama doesn't want Bernie, so he's a centrist!" is about as sophisticated a thought as you're gonna get from that crowd.



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