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Originally posted by Murcielago
Taiwan wants to become its own country, but knows that if it declares its independence that China would probably attack.
Originally posted by rapier28
Originally posted by Pyros
The Nationalist and Communist forces never "banded together".
WTF are you talking about.
Do you even know anything about Chinese History?
The Communists formed a army called the New-four army which supplented the Whole Kuomintang army. If thats not "banded together" then what is?
Chang Kai-shek was ONLY interested in attacking the Communists.
Do you even know about what changed his mind?????
If you don't know anything about chinese history, don't talk.
He changed his mind when one of his generals rebelled and took him house arrest. (he later impresoned the general under house arrest for the rest of his life)
Chang was forced to sign a treaty with Zhou Enlai.
The nationalists were not successful at all agaisnt the Japanese, thats why they conqured half the god damn country. It wasn't there fault, in a stand up fight, China did not stand a chance.
China only started winning when the 2 banded together and they started using the Guerrilla tactics of Mao
Taiwan is an independent country and has been for over 60 years. Mainland China since Mao has been trying to overthrow "democratic" Taiwan since then.
The world and the "British" "apeased" the dragon by giving it Hong Kong. Worked out well didn't it?
Originally posted by Pyros
What you are talking about in mostly history from pre-1941, and not relevant to the Austalian based conversation (especially after taking into consideration how much the Australians were helping the Chinese versus the Japanese prior to 1941.....)
If you have some historical data that states that the combined forces of the Chinese communists and nationalist, working as a unified force, were responsible for defeating the Japanese in China (which never happened), I would like to see it.
The result of Chiang's waiting was an erosion of morale among the Guomindang. Deprived of the revenues obtained by trade and customs, the Nationalists financed the budget and lined their own pockets by printing paper money without gold or other reserves to back it up. This caused massive inflation, raising prices 250-fold between 1942 and 1944, and the wages of most workers failed to keep up. Local governors also introduced new taxes, limited only by their imagination; among these were the "contribute-straw-sandals-to-recruits" tax, a "comfort-recruits'-families" tax, and a "train-antiaircraft-cadres" tax. The Guomindang government-in-exile became so corrupt and unpopular that the local residents of Sichuan called them "downriver bandits." For this reason, the Guomindang made no effort to mobilize the peasants as the communists were doing.
The war had the opposite effect on the CCP. Not believing in enforced idleness, the communists infiltrated the Japanese-controlled areas of north China and began to organize resistance. The railway system, secured by blockhouses every few miles, was an ideal target for guerrillas on the move. Soon the Japanese only had firm control over the parts of the countryside that they happened to have troops in. In response the Imperial Army launched what it called the Three Alls campaign: Kill all, loot all, and burn all. When that began the Red Army deliberately avoided pitched battles, restricting itself to harassing the enemy. "The people are the sea," declared Zhu De's deputy, "while the guerrillas are the fish swimming in it." Meanwhile, Mao Zedong worked at winning local support by reducing rents and taxes and improving the standard of living in the areas they controlled. The result of all these actions was that Yan'an became a magnet for idealistic young people from all over the country. This swelled the ranks of the Communist Party from 40,000 in 1937 to 400,000 by 1940.
Originally posted by drfunk
LOL i've never heard more paranoia in one post ever Taiwan and China is of no concern to me , and the way the whole Taiwanese situation has been brought about is the result of this.
Originally posted by drfunkInternational politics is a dirty and complex game IMO, and the whole situation we see today is a result of that.
Originally posted by drfunkChina have no intention of us being subservient to them. The only country we are subservient to is the United States, which a lot of evidence is here, we're not given much of a choice not to fight.
Once again China won't invade Australia for the forseeable future, the only thing China will invade us with is cheap goods. Seriously, you gotta do better than that to convince an apathetic nation like australia.
Originally posted by the_oleneo
I don't foresee any invasion of Australia by China tomorrow. Or next week. Just as long as China's professing a desire to control the sea passages throughout southeastern Asia, including the water around Australia, your country is in China's way nevertheless. Just a thought for you to dissect.