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Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
Chances are, Germany would've never invaded Belgium and France had they never been in that alliance.
Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
csulli456,
You present a very idealistic view of things. How assured are you that you are right? I think the problem is that people like yourself are so convinced that they are right and are so convinced the world is black and white that all they have to do is go kill people and boom, everything is all happy and good and red white and blue, without ever considering that perhaps they might have been the ones wrong all along. What if God came down one day and told us authoritarianism, tyranny, etc., were all "good" and everything you percieve to be "good" was actually evil? Ever consider that? Or do you just choose not to think about it?
Let me ask you a provocative question. As a parent, you must be authoritarian at times. With that in mind, are you going to say the authoritarianism is ALWAYS wrong? You imply that considering you think China is "evil."
All I can say is, there is only so much in the world a person can control. We have to choose what we think is more important to protect. And don't love anything "good" (like freedom) too much. Everything has equal amounts of upsides and downsides. You have to keep an open mind.
BTW, you're not unique when you say you considered joining the military. Just three months ago, I was on the verge of starting my entry into the U.S. Marine Corps. So don't love yourself too much.
[edit on 8-3-2005 by sweatmonicaIdo]
Originally posted by Intelearthling
Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
Chances are, Germany would've never invaded Belgium and France had they never been in that alliance.
After reading this, it's obvious you don't have ANY knowledge of what the Nazi's Third Reich was about!
Dude, Germany would've invaded Easter Island in given time.
They made a deal with the Soviets that they wouldn't bother them if they let them take Poland!
Did that happen?
It's no use telling you! Go read a history book!
Originally posted by djohnsto77
Yeah...I think all free people should care when a country annexes another country. The fact that China is a major power makes it more difficult for us to act, not easier.
Originally posted by djohnsto77
Wow, sweat I didn't even notice your statement about Belgium and France at first...ask the Dutch people what happened to them with their treaty. Yes, the Netherlands had a non-aggression pact with the Nazis which the Nazis broke and invaded them anyway.
Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
Originally posted by djohnsto77
Wow, sweat I didn't even notice your statement about Belgium and France at first...ask the Dutch people what happened to them with their treaty. Yes, the Netherlands had a non-aggression pact with the Nazis which the Nazis broke and invaded them anyway.
Dude... (bursts into tears) READ. We're talking about WORLD WAR I, not WORLD WAR II. The Nazis weren't even around in World War I!!!
In the name of all things sacred... read what we write!
Originally posted by drfunk
This is the neo-conservative mentality. They think of foreign policy in 1939 terms. They find it hard not to think of situations out of this time and apply it to current events.
thanks,
drfunk
Originally posted by djohnsto77
Yeah, you're talking about World War I, but we're not living in World War I anymore that we are living in World War II. If you want to discuss the history of treaties and how they've impacted war in the past and apply those lessons to today, you can't simply choose one conflict that conveniently fits your preconceived notions.
Originally posted by djohnsto77
No I know you were talking about treaties, and went back to your original post to double check it. See my last post.
Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
I was talking about World War I. You were talking about World War II. Two different wars, two different time periods. Thus what you said was irrelevent.
Originally posted by djohnsto77
If you would read my posts, especially post 1227579, you can see that I clearly understood you were talking about World War I. But I don't see your logic that WWI is any more relevant than WWII or any other war in history in analyzing this topic.
Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
Your posts did not show you knew I was talking about World War I.
Originally posted by djohnsto77
Well first China took Tibet, now it looks like they're taking Nepal, next Taiwan...how many more countries does China have to take before some of you recognize it as a threat to all? Will it take Japan? Australia itself? The situation looks far more like Nazi Germany in the lead up to WWII instead of WWI. (emphasis mine)
Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
You definitely need to learn the basics, starting with reading.
Originally posted by djohnsto77
Wow, and you accuse me of not reading, here's my referenced post:
Originally posted by djohnsto77
Well first China took Tibet, now it looks like they're taking Nepal, next Taiwan...how many more countries does China have to take before some of you recognize it as a threat to all? Will it take Japan? Australia itself? The situation looks far more like Nazi Germany in the lead up to WWII instead of WWI. (emphasis mine)
Why should I take anything you say seriously when you refuse to read why I say yet are attacking me?