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originally posted by: toolgal462
originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: toolgal462
Public knowledge. mostly rolling back any initiatives to protect the environment that Obama put in place, and then some.
Goddamn paywall on at least one link(sorry)
www.independent.co.uk...
www.nytimes.com... ssetType=REGIWALL
www.nationalgeographic.com...
www.brookings.edu...
Hmmmm, well....nothing wrong with rolling back or removing redundant, useless, costly Obama era laws especially since they obviously DID NOT WORK.
ie: Didn't Obama's EPA poison a major river, which was a source for farming and drinking for many NA?
Obama era regulations didn't seem to do anything to protect the people of Flint, Michigan either.
I hope you do realize, that more regulation does not equal better protections. The only thing more regulations equals is more money for some crappy politicians friends and family. And a loss of money and freedom for the rest of us.
originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: toolgal462
We will have to agree to disagree, some protection is better than letting industry police itself..IMHO
And I could agree the EPA has not always lived up to their mandate.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: toolgal462
originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: toolgal462
Public knowledge. mostly rolling back any initiatives to protect the environment that Obama put in place, and then some.
Goddamn paywall on at least one link(sorry)
www.independent.co.uk...
www.nytimes.com... ssetType=REGIWALL
www.nationalgeographic.com...
www.brookings.edu...
Hmmmm, well....nothing wrong with rolling back or removing redundant, useless, costly Obama era laws especially since they obviously DID NOT WORK.
ie: Didn't Obama's EPA poison a major river, which was a source for farming and drinking for many NA?
Obama era regulations didn't seem to do anything to protect the people of Flint, Michigan either.
I hope you do realize, that more regulation does not equal better protections. The only thing more regulations equals is more money for some crappy politicians friends and family. And a loss of money and freedom for the rest of us.
People still get hurt and killed in car accidents therefore traffic laws don't work.
People should just drive at any speed they want on whatever side of the road they like best.
originally posted by: toolgal462
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: toolgal462
originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: toolgal462
Public knowledge. mostly rolling back any initiatives to protect the environment that Obama put in place, and then some.
Goddamn paywall on at least one link(sorry)
www.independent.co.uk...
www.nytimes.com... ssetType=REGIWALL
www.nationalgeographic.com...
www.brookings.edu...
Hmmmm, well....nothing wrong with rolling back or removing redundant, useless, costly Obama era laws especially since they obviously DID NOT WORK.
ie: Didn't Obama's EPA poison a major river, which was a source for farming and drinking for many NA?
Obama era regulations didn't seem to do anything to protect the people of Flint, Michigan either.
I hope you do realize, that more regulation does not equal better protections. The only thing more regulations equals is more money for some crappy politicians friends and family. And a loss of money and freedom for the rest of us.
People still get hurt and killed in car accidents therefore traffic laws don't work.
People should just drive at any speed they want on whatever side of the road they like best.
Who said anything about removing all laws/regulations? Not me.
And Trump hasn't done any such thing either.
originally posted by: toolgal462
originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: toolgal462
We will have to agree to disagree, some protection is better than letting industry police itself..IMHO
And I could agree the EPA has not always lived up to their mandate.
I would not agree to no protections. There are still protections in place.
But I'm all for rolling back redundant and useless regulations.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: toolgal462
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: toolgal462
originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: toolgal462
Public knowledge. mostly rolling back any initiatives to protect the environment that Obama put in place, and then some.
Goddamn paywall on at least one link(sorry)
www.independent.co.uk...
www.nytimes.com... ssetType=REGIWALL
www.nationalgeographic.com...
www.brookings.edu...
Hmmmm, well....nothing wrong with rolling back or removing redundant, useless, costly Obama era laws especially since they obviously DID NOT WORK.
ie: Didn't Obama's EPA poison a major river, which was a source for farming and drinking for many NA?
Obama era regulations didn't seem to do anything to protect the people of Flint, Michigan either.
I hope you do realize, that more regulation does not equal better protections. The only thing more regulations equals is more money for some crappy politicians friends and family. And a loss of money and freedom for the rest of us.
People still get hurt and killed in car accidents therefore traffic laws don't work.
People should just drive at any speed they want on whatever side of the road they like best.
Who said anything about removing all laws/regulations? Not me.
And Trump hasn't done any such thing either.
You said they 'obviously ' weren't working and gave examples of failures of rules not protecting the environment.
I can give plenty of examples of traffic accidents therefore traffic laws 'obviously' don't work.
Ahh the simple solution TPTB want you to believe is that if we all become a planet wide socialist/communist state, we can save the world..!!
The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, which is running the initiative, was scheduled to meet Thursday and Friday in Paris to discuss a proposal that would set a standard tax rate for a company’s global operations and allow individual governments to tax profits above that based on sales accounted for by each country.
A better question is, why is TPTB so intent on distracting us from making reasonable changes to increase the chances of our survival?
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: DBCowboy
I think it is sadly the human paradigm... we simply must believe we're at the cusp of disaster at all times and, to make matters worse, we must believe that anything and everything is both driven by humans and can be countered by humans (or, rather, by separating us from our finite monetary resources, traditions, and freedoms.)
In reality, humanity ain't SNIP. We're nowhere near as impactful or as potent as we'd like to believe we are. We are here, we live, and we ultimately die... the globe keep spinning, the weather continues to change, and the only footprint each of us leaves is some manner of garbage that will eventually rot away same as we do (though some of that garbage may take what seems to be a ridiculously long time to decompose, we're only viewing it through human terms of longevity... in the grand cosmic scene that time is stupidly short.)
The really disturbing thing to me is that somehow a swath of people have been brainwashed or programmed to reject human nature unquestioningly and screw themselves and their own in the process because we have a blatantly obvious scam being played on us that goes by the name of "Anthropomorphic climate change." It is a cult, same as any other cult out there. Look at, for instance, Scientology...
You must not question the theories or leadership of Scientology.
You must pay into Scientology, unflinchingly, whatever sum the machine demands you pay.
Scientology's needs and instructions come before and often to the detriment of yourself, your family, and your community.
Do not point out the foibles and lack of adherence to the rules of Scientology practiced by all of the higher ups within Scientology, the rules exist for YOU to follow, not for those who are better than you.
Etc...
So yeah, I find the Climate Change crowd to be a bunch of gullible, self depreciative rubes who are just a notch or two away from the mental illness and mass delusions of the Heaven's Gate or Jonestown idiots.
Those same lefty dipSchiffs want the world to believe that someone born with Male genitalia can be a woman and someone born with a vagina can be a man. Also that men can have periods and give birth.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
The planet is warming.
It doesn’t matter why, it’s too late to change.
A better question is, why is TPTB so intent on distracting us from making reasonable changes to increase the chances of our survival?
originally posted by: lonegurkha
How about this maybe Mit to the rescue