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Oh, and BTW, FD...you're WRONG!! LOL!
Irrelevant conclusion,[1] also known as ignoratio elenchi (Latin for 'ignoring refutation') or missing the point, is the informal fallacy of presenting an argument that may or may not be logically valid and sound, but (whose conclusion) fails to address the issue in question. It falls into the broad class of relevance fallacies.
Straw man is a device or trope used in arguments. The phrase describes a misrepresentation or false version of an argument. This is an informal fallacy. The reasoning is flawed because it distorts issues. A false version of the other side's argument is proved wrong and it looks as if the real argument has been proved wrong.
Appeal to ridicule (also called appeal to mockery, ab absurdo, or the horse laugh[1]) is an informal fallacy which presents an opponent's argument as absurd, ridiculous, or humorous, and therefore not worthy of serious consideration.
Appeal to ridicule is often found in the form of comparing a nuanced circumstance or argument to a laughably commonplace occurrence or to some other irrelevancy on the basis of comedic timing, wordplay, or making an opponent and their argument the object of a joke. This is a rhetorical tactic that mocks an opponent's argument or standpoint, attempting to inspire an emotional reaction (making it a type of appeal to emotion) in the audience and to highlight any counter-intuitive aspects of that argument, making it appear foolish and contrary to common sense. This is typically done by making a mockery of the argument's foundation that represents it in an uncharitable and oversimplified way.
originally posted by: Fallingdown
a reply to: drussell41
What about you which one do you fall for ? Everybody’s got a weakness .
originally posted by: Fallingdown
a reply to: vethumanbeing
But the education system has programmed these kids to only think with their feelings . They have done it so completely I don’t think many will ever mature from their view of the unjust world.
Fallingdown: I see a little hope. In the 80s the economy boomed and they saw the cash.
In the 90s tech took off and they saw the cash. Trump will create another great economy . Especially when he wins the tariff war. I’m just not convinced this generations is going to want the cash . Which will put us on the road to full-scale socialism. The 30-year-old’s with a adolescent outlook on life...... buy me, save me , get me, give me
In another 10 years their numbers will triple. If we don’t do something about public education they’ll keep churning them out . That’s the Democrats end game .
originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: Fallingdown
Every belief systems is built on a set of assumptions. Based on these assumptions you have common sense. The problem is most people do not even realized they have assumptions. They just think everyone else is crazy. Unless two people share the same set of assumptions you will think the other person is crazy.
originally posted by: Fallingdown
a reply to: drussell41
I do my best to stay on point which results in me repeating myself .
Eventually the strawman or Red Herring is picked up as the original narrative by most .
It lieu of the original position .
So I guess the two that hit me the most are the strawman and bandwagon fallacies .
My weakness is the ad hom fallacy .
It comes out when I get frustrated . ( greatly tempered here )
Hence the apology earlier .
This is starting to feel like a AA meeting . 😁
Myself though, I do not like debates so much. I much prefer discussion.
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Fallingdown
I saw the seal who shot bin laden harping on how military leaders and politicians are creating a problem in the field being afraid to defend or assault as ordered.
luthier: Could be true. However it was in response to the to a navy seal who took a picture with an enemy corpse and was turned in by a dozen people in his unit for being a general psycho.