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That's like saying your favorite boxer is winning although he keeps hitting his opponent below the belt.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: network dude
Trump threatened to close the southern border unless Mexico started policing their side.
originally posted by: network dude
Has any other president withheld aid to another country before?
Where you guys are equating two wrongs making a right, I am merely looking at this particular case where Trump held up aid to Ukraine for reasons that still need to be ruled on.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: network dude
Has any other president withheld aid to another country before?
Most likely they have. But I am a firm believer that every United States President should give aids to other countries.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: DBCowboy
How does an investigation into Joe Biden help the nation?
originally posted by: jimmyx
originally posted by: lakenheath24
You can bet they all have and why in the hell WOULDNT they? Pretty sure Obama held up aid to Pakistan...and of course we have Reagan and the contras.
This was a stupid thing for Dems to do. Thets the whole bit about foreign aid...do as we say or no hay.
jesus, the above examples are COMPLETELY different, and not being discussed at all, in the impeachment hearings...why?...because NONE of those "aid-hold-outs" were used to bribe a foreign leader into announcing an investigation into their American political opponents.....
it sounds like from this thread, that nobody has heard a word said, or what the impeachment is even about....
originally posted by: lakenheath24
And how does one console the fact that ole Hillary looked for dirt on T-man in the SAME country.
Solomon, who now works for Fox News, explained that the Ukraine anti-corruption organization, NABU, ironically started by Joe Biden, requested a reopening of the investigation into Burisma, its shady owner, and its unusual transactions in February of 2019.
By March 28th, the general prosecutor’s office agreed to open an investigation and filed a “Notice of Suspicion”.
At the heart of the investigation are illicit funds that were running through Burisma from 2010-2015.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: operation mindcrime
a reply to: network dude
I think "personal benefit" is the key feature we should be looking at...
Peace
Semantics.
A president benefits from a successful foreign policy.
Most likely they have. But I am a firm believer that every United States President should give aids to other countries.
A huge chunk of the $17 billion in bailout money the IMF granted to Ukraine in April 2014 has been discovered in a bank account in Cyprus controlled by exiled Ukrainian oligarch Ihor Kolomoyskyi, the German newspaper Deutsche Wirtshafts Nachrichten [DWN] reported on Thursday.In April last year $3.2 billion was immediately disbursed to Ukraine, and over the following five months, another $4.5 billion was disbursed to the Ukrainian Central Bank in order to stabilize the country’s financial system.
“The money should have been used to stabilize the country’s ailing banks, but $1.8 billion disappeared down murky channels,” writes DWN
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: operation mindcrime
a reply to: network dude
I think "personal benefit" is the key feature we should be looking at...
Peace
Semantics.
A president benefits from a successful foreign policy.
And what was the advantage to the entire US, from the withholding of aid to Ukraine?
How does it advantage all the citizens of the US?
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: operation mindcrime
a reply to: network dude
I think "personal benefit" is the key feature we should be looking at...
Peace
Semantics.
A president benefits from a successful foreign policy.
And what was the advantage to the entire US, from the withholding of aid to Ukraine?
How does it advantage all the citizens of the US?
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: operation mindcrime
a reply to: network dude
I think "personal benefit" is the key feature we should be looking at...
Peace
Semantics.
A president benefits from a successful foreign policy.
And what was the advantage to the entire US, from the withholding of aid to Ukraine?
How does it advantage all the citizens of the US?
If Ukraine was in fact corrupt, and the money we sent them went to deep pockets and politicians kids, and not where it was meant to go, do you think that would be good for America? Please answer without your bias. It's important.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: operation mindcrime
a reply to: network dude
I think "personal benefit" is the key feature we should be looking at...
Peace
Semantics.
A president benefits from a successful foreign policy.
And what was the advantage to the entire US, from the withholding of aid to Ukraine?
How does it advantage all the citizens of the US?
If Ukraine was in fact corrupt, and the money we sent them went to deep pockets and politicians kids, and not where it was meant to go, do you think that would be good for America? Please answer without your bias. It's important.
Sure, except that by my reckoning, the anti-corruption stuff (sacking of the bad prosecutor, hiring of Hunter) had already happened well prior to the aid being withheld.